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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 9:49 am
Okay. This is some major Seventh Day Adventist doctrine here, so I don't know much about it. My mom's side of the family is SDA, and they all believe the same thing....They were going on about this post mortem body condition and they were figuring out how it worked when they would be resurrected. My aunt said that Jesus would raise someone up out of the ashes, using the scripture ashes to ashes, dust to dust. So their main thing is "how would organ donation work when Jesus returns? Does he take the organs back from the donatee, or does he give the donator new organs?"

Using this line of thinking, how would Jesus resurrect and restore one body if one died an organ donor?  
PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:19 pm
This is a very good question, one which I have not thought about before. We all know that anything is possible with God. After all, it was God that created us in the first place. If He can create, surely He can restore. I would think that the donator would receive new organs. On the other hand, will we even have (the same) organs? (We won't have to eat to survive or go to the washroom anymore when we're in heaven, right?) So many unanswered questions yet again prove that we humans are limited and that God has everything under His control. And I'm glad that's the way it is.  



PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:21 am
Ashes to ashes, dust to dust, soulstuff to soulstuff. We are all made of a primal substance more subtle than matter and energy, called Soul or Atman (If you're hindu) By "We" I mean us, in our introspective, immortal self. Even matter is congealed, corruptable soulstuff. So, from soulstuff we came, to soulstuff we will return.  
PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:02 pm
Paul in 1 Corinthians 15
Someone will ask, “How are the dead raised? With what kind of body do they come?” You foolish person! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies. And what you sow is not the body that is to be, but a bare kernel, perhaps of wheat or of some other grain. But God gives it a body as he has chosen, and to each kind of seed its own body. For not all flesh is the same, but there is one kind for humans, another for animals, another for birds, and another for fish. There are heavenly bodies and earthly bodies, but the glory of the heavenly is of one kind, and the glory of the earthly is of another. There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for star differs from star in glory.

So is it with the resurrection of the dead. What is sown is perishable; what is raised is imperishable. It is sown in dishonor; it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness; it is raised in power. It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. Thus it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit. But it is not the spiritual that is first but the natural, and then the spiritual. The first man was from the earth, a man of dust; the second man is from heaven. As was the man of dust, so also are those who are of the dust, and as is the man of heaven, so also are those who are of heaven. Just as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we shall also bear the image of the man of heaven.

Paul was responding to people who were challenging the idea of a resurrection. He compares the body that is lain in the grave to a seed, and the new body that will come at the resurrection is compared to the plant that grows out of that seed. The seed is small, and of itself rather insignificant. "A bare kernel," as Paul calls it.

We really don't need to worry about the condition our bodies are in when they die, or over the years as they decompose. What you plant is not in the same condition or appearance as what will grow from it. The life that will come out of the resurrection by the power of God will be as different from our dead remains as a flowering tree differs from its seed.

Paul, continuing,
I tell you this, brothers: flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. Behold! I tell you a mystery. We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed. For this perishable body must put on the imperishable, and this mortal body must put on immortality. When the perishable puts on the imperishable, and the mortal puts on immortality, then shall come to pass the saying that is written:

“Death is swallowed up in victory.”
“O death, where is your victory?
O death, where is your sting?”

The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. Therefore, my beloved brothers, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, knowing that in the Lord your labor is not in vain.

We have nothing to fear in suffering, death, or decay. Immortality awaits us, through Jesus Christ. So go all out and hold nothing back in serving God; we have nothing to lose, nothing of value can be taken from us, Christ has already won it for us.  

Crimson Raccoon

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