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 Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:34 pm
Since it is such a broad term encompassing many systems, it probably means something slightly different to each of us.
Im curious, what does "pagan" mean to you?
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:38 pm
It doesn't mean anything to me. I think of norse and greek, but if you mean norse and greek, wouldn't you just say norse and greek?
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:43 pm
belovedfury Since it is such a broad term encompassing many systems, it probably means something slightly different to each of us. Im curious, what does "pagan" mean to you? not Jewish, Christian, nor Islamic
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:40 pm
When I use the word pagan I'm speaking about any earth based religion/belief system.
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:18 pm
rmcdra belovedfury Since it is such a broad term encompassing many systems, it probably means something slightly different to each of us. Im curious, what does "pagan" mean to you? not Jewish, Christian, nor Islamic This. Not all Pagan faiths worship nature or even actively revere it.
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 1:23 am
It means non-Abrahamic. Personally I have a tendency to use it more specifically as sort of a shortened form of "Neo-Pagan", which generally refers to religions reconstructed from or inspired by pre-Christian palaeo-paganisms.
Additionally there are a fair few religions which are technically Pagan, but dislike the term and choose not to associate with it. Fair enough, says I.
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 3:32 am
To quickly answer the thread, I don't define it, I let the dictionaries do that ninja Sanguina Cruenta Additionally there are a fair few religions which are technically Pagan, but dislike the term and choose not to associate with it. Fair enough, says I. And that's not even getting into the religions which fall outside of the Pagan/Abrahamic dichotomy which frequently give me a headache 3nodding
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 7:01 am
''A non-Abrahamic religion'' is what I think the word Paganism is originally meant to define.
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 5:41 pm
My parents are pagan. It is simply believing in "Live and let live". It is believing that everything has some potential life or energy. Any type of killing whether it even be an animal/insect is very wrong (animal sacrifical ceremonies are from old old pagans way back in the day). Bascially any type of ritual whether it be a spell or w/e is simply for luck. Just as a christian would make a prayer to jesus or say grace, it is simply a blessing and nothing more. Black magic is wicca and NOT pagan. Pagans do only white magic.
This is pretty much all I know. I don't really question my parents about there beliefs. But yeah this is just my opinion from what i've learned.
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 6:04 pm
Seltzer Cole My parents are pagan. It is simply believing in "Live and let live". It is believing that everything has some potential life or energy. Any type of killing whether it even be an animal/insect is very wrong (animal sacrifical ceremonies are from old old pagans way back in the day). Bascially any type of ritual whether it be a spell or w/e is simply for luck. Just as a christian would make a prayer to jesus or say grace, it is simply a blessing and nothing more. Black magic is wicca and NOT pagan. Pagans do only white magic.
This is pretty much all I know. I don't really question my parents about there beliefs. But yeah this is just my opinion from what i've learned. Black magic is NOT Wicca. Wicca does not support black magic, and any true Wiccan would NOT do black magic. Also, Wiccan is Neo-Pagan, and to extent, Pagan. I am an Eclectic Pagan myself, but I study quite a bit on Wicca, and it does NOT use black magic whatsoever. Just a correction, not meant to offend you or anything.
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 6:40 pm
Seltzer Cole My parents are pagan. It is simply believing in "Live and let live". It is believing that everything has some potential life or energy. This may be true of your parents' Paganism. It's not true of Paganism as a whole. Quote: Any type of killing whether it even be an animal/insect is very wrong (animal sacrifical ceremonies are from old old pagans way back in the day). You seem to be confusing "killing an animal" with "sacrificing an animal in ritual". Pagans kill things all the time, just like everyone else. Some groups do sacrifice animals as part of a feast. It's rare, but it happens. As I understand it, the animal is not allowed to suffer - if it does, it's a bad sacrifice and a bad omen. At any rate. Why are palaeo-Pagans somehow not Pagan now? Quote: Bascially any type of ritual whether it be a spell or w/e is simply for luck. This isn't true at all. My rituals are to honour my gods, as rites of passage, to celebrate holy days, etc. Rarely do they have anything to do with luck. Quote: Black magic is wicca and NOT pagan. Pagans do only white magic. All Wiccans are Pagan. Personally I find the use of harmful magic more common outside of those who self-identify as Wiccan (usually incorrectly, but anyway) than inside. Whether a Pagan uses magic generally depends on the individual. Whether a Pagan uses magic to harm depends on the personal morals and values of the individual. There are nidstang standing against those who use Asatru as an excuse for race-related violence. I support those nidstang. Again, I'm sure all this may well be true of the religion your parents practise. But this is just illustrating the fact that Paganism is such a wide umbrella and encompasses so many different beliefs and practices.
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 7:10 pm
I define it as someone who doesn't worship the jewish/christian/muslim god.
I generally see it as someone who worships nature or something like that, though I also am aware of it's definition.
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 7:48 pm
As has been mentioned, Pagan is an umbrella term for those who practice a non-Abrahamic faith. Jonathonn Black magic is NOT Wicca. Wicca does not support black magic, and any true Wiccan would NOT do black magic. Also, Wiccan is Neo-Pagan, and to extent, Pagan. I am an Eclectic Pagan myself, but I study quite a bit on Wicca, and it does NOT use black magic whatsoever. Just a correction, not meant to offend you or anything. That's not really true either. My understanding is that as long as they are aware and willing to accept the consequences of their actions, Wiccans are free to do more or less whatever they want. Though to be sure it's probably not very common.
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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:01 pm
Well pagan means to me basically this religion. I know it encompasses lots of other belief systems but i use Pagan to describe my religion although I don't know where i fall under in the religion I know I'm a Pagan and that's what matters to me. Just outta curiosity what is 'White magic' and 'Black Magic'? I ask only because i dont actually use the terms because Magic is magic no matter what purpose needed for is it not still magic in its very essence? Plus i dont actually know what White magic is I'm aware what is considered 'Black Magic' but is white magic basically the opposite?
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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:05 pm
I don't know exactly but I think that the holiday easter was once a Norse (maybe considered Pagan) holiday worshiping the Goddess ester the goddess of the harvest it was just changed because it was probably on the same day as the passover
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