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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:02 am
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:04 am
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:06 am
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Think of The Holy Bible as a historical and poetic book, rather than some work of fiction or fantasy. The Bible says that Jesus, as well as others, healed the sick and brought the dead back to life. If this was just a mass hallucination, then don't you think that it would have been rather temporary, and not sound so much more long term? Also, Jesus was crucified, and did die, and was buried for three days, and it was not a ghost that people saw later, but Jesus himself, alive. He even ate something...and He rose up to Heaven. I believe that those things happened.
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:36 am
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lordstar Jesus the man: Good chance a man by that name lived about 2000 years ago Mary, Joseph and Jesus were very popular names back then. Why do you think that they called Him Jesus, the Christ; Jesus of Nazareth?
Quote: Jesus the son of God: very unlikely Depends on which Jesus you're speaking of.
Quote: as for mass hallucination we only see one single account originating about 300 years after said events that says people of the time saw said miracles The Gospels of the New Testament were written within one lifetime of Jesus' crucifixion, resurrection and ascension. And there are more copies of these than there are copies of Shakespeare, or of Beowulf - yet you still believe that they exist and are real.
Quote: this is a case of one mans writing not the spoken testimony hundreds thus mass hallucination isn't in question but rather the legitimacy of what may likely be a work of fiction far more so than truth The Bible was written over 1500 years, by four men on three different continents, yet, somehow the overall message of God's love and Jesus are never skewed. People wann turn it into, "Yeah, well rabbits don't chew cud," or, "You should have your head covered while you pray," But it isn't about that dumb stuff. It's about God and it's about Jesus.
Quote: but there is a chance that I am wrong Bingo. wink
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:17 pm
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 7:46 pm
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ferret658 lordstar Jesus the man: Good chance a man by that name lived about 2000 years ago Mary, Joseph and Jesus were very popular names back then. Why do you think that they called Him Jesus, the Christ; Jesus of Nazareth? Quote: Jesus the son of God: very unlikely Depends on which Jesus you're speaking of. Quote: as for mass hallucination we only see one single account originating about 300 years after said events that says people of the time saw said miracles The Gospels of the New Testament were written within one lifetime of Jesus' crucifixion, resurrection and ascension. And there are more copies of these than there are copies of Shakespeare, or of Beowulf - yet you still believe that they exist and are real. Quote: this is a case of one mans writing not the spoken testimony hundreds thus mass hallucination isn't in question but rather the legitimacy of what may likely be a work of fiction far more so than truth The Bible was written over 1500 years, by four men on three different continents, yet, somehow the overall message of God's love and Jesus are never skewed. People wann turn it into, "Yeah, well rabbits don't chew cud," or, "You should have your head covered while you pray," But it isn't about that dumb stuff. It's about God and it's about Jesus. Quote: but there is a chance that I am wrong Bingo. wink
1) My point exactly...popular name...likely to be a Jesus of Nazareth
2) I thought I was quite clear...unless there is more than one Jesus son of god...ya know the holy man himself
3) No, the gospels you speek of emerged from the roman empire well after this supposed crucifixion, resurrection and ascension
4) again no, we have the account of one person who claims each work was written when and by whom
5) although there is a chance I am wrong the odds are greatly in my favor
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