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 Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 7:26 pm
[ If DeathNote actually happened, would you be a supporter of Kira?]
[ Or an even more interesting question: If you found the Deathnote would you do the same thing as Raito? ]
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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 9:30 pm
Ooh, a tough question you put forward.
I'd like to think that i wouldnt be a Kira Supporter, but in order to save my own skin I would probably pretend to be.
If I were closely working near either L or Raito I'd probably go out of my way to help them. Chances are that wouldnt happen though; and I'd just be one of many other people reading about Kira in the newspaper each day.
If I found a Deathnote it would be my precious. I'd gloat in glory over it but I probably wouldnt use it - just once to make sure it was real xp
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 12:47 am
I think I might just be a Kira supporter. I continue to find myself rooting for him when he wins and or hoping he stays clear of any danger that disrupts his plans. As far as his ideology goes, I agree to a certain extent. There's the part of me where I say that a person does not have the authority to take the life of another without reason. Yet the reason is shown in Kira's ideology, in that those who take part in evil acts are judged with righteousness accordingly. Still reason or not, I still hold dear to my moral sense that no man has authority on the matter which is life and death.
Yet we as mankind seem to believe we do from the murders in your backyard to total and complete genocide of a nation's people. So in fact that even though I believe that we really should not have such authority, there should be at least a limited amount. That is where Raito, Kira comes in. He punishes those who take such authority for petty reasons as well as other unjustly crimes and fully takes on the responsibility of that said authority bringing it to an order. A man he is with body and soul. Yet with the Death Note he has that authority as do the other Shinigami.
One could argue asking if they were to give a gun to neighbor, does that give them the right to take another's life? It sure grants them free willed permission to do so but we'd agree that it does not. Yet say this person takes that very same gun and guns down rapists, child molesters, murderers. In the back of our minds we are thankful for their deaths but still shun the act that brought it to them. Yet when all fails, what other way of total justice is there?
Oh and if I had the Death Note, I'd probably do the same out of curiousity at first then probably push forward the same ideology but on a smaller selected scale.
*None of that is actually part of my honest beliefs but I'm sort of taking the role of how I would respond if I truly believed I'd be a Kira supporter in the manga.
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 2:13 am
Hmm... I'm happy someone brought this up.
Well I probably would be a Kira supporter. I don't believe in the death penalty though which is sort of odd I know. I don't believe in it because the wrong person can be convicted, and also I just don't think a man can take the life of another... Of course killing an innocent would leave the same possible problem for Kira. Even so, if the world changed like it did in the manga I wouldn't help but be able to think it was a good thing.
What else I think should be looked at though, is what horrors could of happened. I mean... someone with a Death Note, they could set out to annihilate a whole race of people, or take out all the leaders of different countries and throw the world into complete chaos.
If I had a Death Note... I might end up doing the same as Light, but I doubt it'd be on such a grand scale. I'd probably only kill those who caused a lot of harm to others. Though I do hate to admit it, knowing myself as I do... I'd probably end up cold and rather mentally unstable like Light and maybe also doing a grander scale of judging after awhile.
Yes though, I would support Kira and it wouldn't be for fear of my own life.
Though like in Death Note, if it happened in this world and then something happened to Kira... I'd fear for what would become of the world then. It could really end up in complete chaos then.
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 6:17 am
Like Inane Whimsies I don't believe in the 'Death Penelty', however I am pretty sure I am a KIRA supporter. Moreover, the idea that a smart boy like Raito has control over death seems much better than any goverment.
My supporting can basically be summed up in one line. (spelling might be a wee bit dodgey though)
"Theres more joy in heaven for the 1% of sinner who repenteth, then the 99% who need no repentence"
However, the KIRA system is portentially open to Raito's bias (the FBI agents for example) rolleyes
But we must bear in mind, that we would not know Raito Yagami. Chances are it would be somebody else. Remember Raito's friends back in school, one was afraid because he pickpocketed back in grade school.
Imagine the uncertainty for the residence in the kingdom of KIRA.
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 6:38 am
I think that Raito's plan to kill criminals is too strict. one needs to offer second chances.
It is here that law is confussed and that people loose intereest. There just too much in the concept to wade though here.
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 10:52 am
alicelights I think that Raito's plan to kill criminals is too strict. one needs to offer second chances. It is here that law is confussed and that people loose intereest. There just too much in the concept to wade though here. For all crimes?
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 4:03 pm
Am I the only one who wouldnt be a Kira supporter. crying I'm opposed to the idea. I believe we as a community of mankind have worked together in deciding on death penalties and sentences for our own countries. Having one person decide the fate of many is ludicrous to me, for this order that we had made will surely collapse somehow. The likelihood of crime happening if Kira ever stopped using the Note would also increase; and people who had never commited crimes, would feel it would be in their power to do so. Why begin cleansing the world at all if something like this can be avoided by simply NOT cleansing the world. Kira might be smart but he's gonna die one day; and because he is only one person the chances of something going wrong are much higher. If he passes the note on can he be sure that the next person will definitly follow his ideals? What about the person after that? Everyone's idea of justice is slightly different. I like to place my faith in the decisions of humanity as a whole; not some God or teenager wielding a freaky notebook. We've done well for ourselves up until this point; and we've made our own laws which suit our varying levels of society. Some you might not think are all that great; but things change over time and the world learns (just take gay marriage as an example). You all say you'd support kira but you don't support the Death Penalty. I dont understand that. The basis of Kira's work is to get rid of those who cause pain on others. To support Kira IS to support the Death Penalty. If he were leniant do you think people would actually listen to him? One could murder someone and say 'it's all right, Kira gives me a second chance.' Nah, in my opinion the world is better off without a Deathnote.
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 5:05 pm
The death penalty thing, for me it just breaks down to what good is it almost. Yeah it get rids of some criminals... but it'd be worse if they had to live their lives out behind bars. Also, it isn't really something that stops people from commiting crimes, not like the whole Kira thing.
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 8:32 pm
If I found the DN I would
-kill off all the terrorists.
-kill off all the people that are "bad". by my standards, of course. cool
-become a "good" dictator.
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:45 pm
i would be a kira supporter 100%
and say that i was good friends with him and i knew about the deathnote
besides being safe from his wrath. tho at some point i would start to get worried about how he goes about killing people.
i only think this beacuse i think L, his lakys, and the rest of the government need to just butt out and only attempt to intervein if "kira" gets out of control
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 8:23 pm
Yes, I would be a Kira supporter. domokun
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:41 pm
my question to you is... would you have the guts to do it, let alone try the death note
and also, if a perssons life goes accordingly, wouldnt their natural lifespan differ greatly, and if you killed someone before their time, does the shinigami get that or shouldnt you get that remaining life, i mean, how useful is that little... extra of the shinigami eyes, if you dont even get life for killing them gonk
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:46 am
Yes, I would be a Kira supporter. gonk Even I like more L, Mello and Nia than Raito. domokun heart
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RionaDaidouji Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:57 pm
I'm with Nagaki on this one. I do think that the world needs to be "cleansed", in a sense, of criminals, but I don't think the power should be in the hands of a human... I mean, can you imagin if the wrong person got their hands on the DN?
So... I guess I wouldn't be a Kira supporter, but I wouldn't be against him, either, unless he started killing off random people or something.
If I were to find a Death Note, I'd probably think it was some sort of joke until a Shinigami appeared... Then I'd probably pee my pants and give up ownership.
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