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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:07 pm
I need a little help on this concept. From my understanding wyrd is fated karma. You are your own actions, present, past and future, and there no escaping it because its fated. I still don't understnad and I'm not sure if thats an accurate description.
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:20 pm
zFreakuencyz I need a little help on this concept. From my understanding wyrd is fated karma. You are your own actions, present, past and future, and there no escaping it because its fated. I would agree that you are your actions. What your ancestors did in the past affects you now and in the future (the orlog that was made). This essay might help you out. The way it was explained to me that made the most sense, was to imagine your life as a thread in a tapestry. It gets interwoven with other people's threads, and just as your thread affects theirs, their threads affect yours as well. There is a good deal of inter-connectedness.
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Violet Song jat Shariff Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 3:15 am
I reckon it's more like destiny than fate precisely. I make a bit of a distinction there wink It doesn't have anything to do with karma.
I like the tapestry thing.
Basically there are some things set when you are born, like the colour of your thread, what it's made of, and so on. These things will affect where they go in the pattern or design, as in any tapestry. Where your thread actually begins is another thing that's set.
Now, you can affect the pattern in particular ways. But the overall pattern is maintained. There are particular parts of the tapestry where your thread has to cross. Other than that, though, you can steer your thread in particular ways. Decisions you make, things you do etc affect your thread and what part of the pattern it can contribute to... if you go off one way, you won't be able to be a part of a design that's off in the other direction. Past designs affect future designs. And your decisions affect not just your thread, not just the design as a whole, but specific other threads, where they can go, what decisions they can make and so on. If your thread goes one way, that will change how another thread can be used.
I like this analogy because it incorporates elements of choice and of predestined events, but it also stresses the importance of your choices and how it affects others and your future.
That explanation is a bit confused but it makes sense in my head sweatdrop
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:58 pm
Wyrd is a broad concept. Unlike Karma, which is measured mostly in the sense that bad deeds will cause poor luck, and what-have-you.
Sanguina is absolutely correct, and I'd like to commend the good example, by the way.
Wyrd is simply the chain of actions/reactions, choices, and decisions. It takes into account everything, including the choices your parents made, the choices your furthest ancestors made that led to your existence, and how you would not be if they had not all made their perfect decisions to align in the correct pattern.
It's more like...the grand design. It's not so much fate, as it is a loose sense of it.
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:49 am
For the Rose is a Beautiful FlowerI tend to think of Wyrd as "What must be" We have a certain amount of leeway and control over our fates, but some things are inevitable. A Beautiful Flower with Thorns
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:35 am
To the one that I serve Is Wyrd the same thing as Fate? I will give my all
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:41 am
That's a difficult question to answer. It really depends on your defenition of fate. Personally, I don't think it is. Wyrd has more choices then fate...I'm having a difficult time putting this into words. For the moment, I would direct you to Sanguina's post with the tapestry annalogy while I try to difine fate in a coherent manner.
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 3:17 pm
Yeah, it's not really fate. Fate is more.... absolute. To my mind anyway.
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:59 pm
To the one that I serve Cause I'm wondering if Artisson is using Fate incorrectly... he thinks of Fate as the tapestry of reality that is always being woven.... I will give my all
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:06 pm
Artisson uses his a** incorrectly.
Don't get me started on that wanker. What religion is he pretending to be these days?
Frankly artisson misusing language is nothing new. That guy can spend half a page expressing something that can be said in a few words.
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:58 am
To the one that I serve The book I'm readings is supposed to be "Traditional witchcraft" but I'm not seeing any witchcraft in it. I will give my all
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:02 am
Again. This man is a c**t, pure and simple. He's the cuntiest c**t I have ever yet come across in the history of the world. Ever. He epitomises the word "c**t".
Him and his arrogant destruction of a perfectly serviceable language and his blatant, blatant word-padding in the sad attempt to make himself seem more intelligent than he actually is. But god, don't question him, because he'll totally ban you from his LJ community!
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 5:59 am
To the one that I serve Well the second part of the book is more about the techniques for getting in touch with the land so we'll see what happens. I do think he is using Wyrd and Fate interchangeably as he refers to the Norns at one point. I will give my all
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:41 am
Looks like my definition isn't neede just now. Sorry about the delay.
On another note, I have never heard of this Artisson fellow before. I'm assuming he's a pagany writer.
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