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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:52 am


Even before her 3rd birthday, my daughter used to be all excited to use the potty... never had much success but at least she'd willingly sit and not scream her head off. We've even gone to using the "royal potty" since it was easier for her to sit on by herself than the normal toilet with the kids seat set on it. (She thinks she's hot stuff too since she has her "own" potty) That lasted for all of 2 weeks. Now, it's a battle to get her to even try and even if we let her sit for 15 or 20 minutes after her diaper has been dry for HOURS, she'll not go and then her diaper will be soggy within minutes of getting back into it. I've even tried bibery... I got some "special" unicorn stickers that she can have if she puts something into the potty... Not one sticker has left the backing in the week and half since I first brought them out. I keep hearing from her daycare that she's ready to potty train, that she goes there after nap time (yet her diaper is soggy usually when I pick her up about an hour and half later so I don't know if I should believe that one or not...), and she's actually told my mother-in-law that she had to go and then gone in the potty there several times now... but she's doing none of those things at home! rolleyes I'm just not sure if we're pushing this or not. My son played the same "game" of going everywhere but home until he about 4 I think but we finally zero'd in on the cheerios trick about that time.

We have pull-ups for her now but I hesitate to start her on them until she can at least semi-reliably go... my son treated them just like a diaper but they tended to leak. (Made not a bit of difference to him... he'd go in them every time) On the other hand, maybe that would help her to realize when she had to go. confused

Any and all suggestions appreciated!
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:09 am


My one-room-schoolteacher grandmother told me there was a big difference between an incentive and a bribe. We go to work with the incentive of getting a paycheck and we need to do a certain amount of work or bye-bye paychecks. A bribe can become something the other person controls - like the candy at the checkout stand that the screaming child gets just to shut them up and not because it was earned. I used M&M's or Skittles for incentives as well as a sticker chart that they could see fill up and then a larger gift would be shopped for when filled - a My Little Pony or a Tonka Truck, etc. But I was very firm on when they were earned. I also (0n one child) ate the skittles when they couldn't be bothered to earn it because I knew that next time they would try harder rather than 'loose" a goody they saw as already theirs the next time.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:58 am


I saw this on jon and kate plus 8 (yes i know OH GOD THAT COUPLE lawls but hey it worked!)

The had a bulliten board on their wall and the days of the week and if they went peepee or pooped and she would tell them that if they used the potty they would first get a sticker and then as they started using it more then their pants she gave them One m&m.. You might wanna do the M&M first but it shows them they have a goal and such biggrin
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:19 am


sticker chart... well, that one didn't work so well with my son at this age but maybe it will for her. (I'm a sticker nut so I have TONS of small stickers around that I could use for that. redface ) I keep giving her books while she's sitting there in the bathroom, hopeing she'll get distracted enough to go while she's on the potty. Hasn't worked like that yet but oh well! xp

As it is, we're working on the staying dry over-night thing with the oldest one. I have star stickers I put on the calender in the kitchen every morning that he's dry. If he gets 5 dry mornings in a row, he gets to pick a "prize" from the bin that contains confiscated items. (Stuff he leaves around the living room after I've asked 5 times for it to get picked up usually.) When he manages to do 10 days in a row (his max right now is only 4), he'll get to pick out a new toy car (matchbox type) at the store and new undies. (I buy the "whities" for him usually so he loves it when he gets to pick out character ones lol ) He'll be in 1st grade next year so I'm thinking it's time he learned to manage the night time wetting. (And I'm tired of the extra laundry!)

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:51 am


Extra laundry! I think that is one of the most frustrating aspects!
PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:55 am


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Extra laundry! I think that is one of the most frustrating aspects!


We do use those over-night underwear things on him now but we went a whole week having him wearing just undies with the plastic undies over those... he was dry maybe one night out of 7. He only uses a bottom sheet and then a light blanket or nothing on his bed. (He won't sleep with a top sheet... literally pulls it off every time I put one on!) So there'd be a sheet, the matress pad (he sleeps in a "super single" water bed) and usually the blanket to wash every morning. I think if he can go back to being dry more often than being wet, we'll try the undies only thing again. He's just such a sound sleeper! (Which I can't blame him for... I literally almost slept through a garage fire many years ago... dog barking and sirens and all... and the garage was only a few feet from where I was sleeping in the house! redface )

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:33 am


I know there are a lot of people out there who can sleep through a lot. I have heard from so many other moms stories of the one child in the family who had a hard time getting through the night dry because they would sleep so soundly. I even heard from one mom about a child who had to have surgery to correct a problem before he could keep the bed wet because there was something anatomically wrong in his private area. (trying to use pg language here on Gaia) This was when the poor boy was in his later (5th or 6th) grade school years.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:25 pm


I give my son an extra star on his responsibility chart if he has a dry pull-up in the morning. The stars are tokens he can trade in for either candy or video game time or a comic book. With the older kids learning to stay dry at night, sometimes they're more cooperative if you let them have some control over what their reward will be. And of course sometimes they just need to grow a bit more so their bladder can hold more! I've noticed also that my son is more likely to be dry if I wake him up a little bit earlier than he likes, say by about an hour. If you've got a Morning Person on your hands, you may not be interested in that, though...

As for potty-training...sometimes kids can be real jerks about it, really trying to yank your chain and see what they can get away with. I won't say it isn't absolutely enraging, but - they will outgrow it. Try varying the reward offered; most kids respond well to candy of some sort, since it's not usually on the menu. And, like Ms Jo suggested, eating the unearned reward in front of them can be a minorly satisfying last-ditch resort. That can turn into an actual "pissing contest", though, so use that one with caution; girls are ten times more vindictive than boys!

The only idea I can offer that seemed to help with my daughter - she acted like the toilet seat was red-hot half the time! - was to stay with her and sing ALL of her favorite Princess songs, sometimes more than one time through, until she finally relaxed enough to let a little dribble out. The words and tunes are probably irrevocably scarred into my forebrain, but there are worse things to have there! And, since it was all about control, she got the happy knowledge that she could get me to sing by sitting on the potty. She even got to pick the songs!

Oh yeah - and, once the weather got warm enough, I made her run around the house buck naked. Plenty of time on clean-up detail, but much less laundry, and she got a really clear idea that it was unacceptable to pee on the floor, and that the potty was a good place to put it.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:47 am


You are right about the vindictive thing, don't threaten something unless you are ready to follow through!
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