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The infamous abortion topic. State your views. biggrin


Personally I'm pro-choice but not for abortion. I think that it should be up to the mother to choose what she should do with the child to be growing inside her. Notice I said child to be instead of child. ~_^. Many have been told that getting abortion is one of the easiest decisions in the world. Here's a reality check: it's not easy. If it were so easy then why would women that get abortions feel guilt? It's a tough decision that is mainly psychological. The mothers that get these done, do think about the fetus. The think about what would happen if they couldn't take care of the child. I know many of you are thinking of adoption. But the sad thing is, adoption is a two-edged sword.

There is a 50/50 chance that the child will go into a loving home or into an abusive home or that the child will be stuck in the system for the rest of it's life. In other words, suffering. What many people cease to realize that there is a such thing as an unwanted child.

I'm one of those unwanted children. My parents never wanted a kid when they had me and they were married. My dad loved me and still does regardless of that. My mum on the other hand, typically tells me how great life was when I wasn't born, and also berates me for being the way I am.

So before you state why keeping the child or adoption may be a good thing, think about those that are treated the way I've been treated or worse. Think about the children who have been adopted that have a similar story to mine. Would adoption or keeping the child be such a good idea?

I'm am pro-life. no changing that.

but keeping the child or giving it up for adoption can be a stressful experience for the mother and the father. Giving up your child isn't easy to deal with; but with technology these days, you can keep in touch with the family that takes the baby in.

so my opinion is: don't take a baby's life before they even have a chance of living it.

Ok, my opinion is kinda hard to explain. Here it goes:

If something were to happen to me, be it rape or sex I agreed to have, and I were to get pregnant, I would not have an abortion. I believe that a fetus is a living, breathing human. I would either keep the baby, or, more likely, put it up for adoption. In this I am pro-life.

When it comes to the overall population, however, I am pro-choice. God gave humans the ability to choose, plus in America, the freedom of expression and choice is a key element in the political and social foundation. If a woman wants an abortion, let her have an abortion, and I will think no less of her for her choice.
I must say, though, that I don't think the decision should be made lightly. I think the pregnant woman should be made aware of all of the other options, the medical procedure, possible side effects, and go through counseling to be sure she is mentally capapble of making such a decision. Because it is a difficult one.

I am incredibly pro-life.

While i understand that there is such thing as an unwanted child. It does not excuse us from what is nothing but sheer murder. Hell if you want, i have an entire about 4 page essay written up on the subject and can post it. From the moment of conception, the fetus is ALIVE. While it may not be self-aware yet, it is still a living thing, a living human being. Abortion can never be considered. I personally am in favor of outlawing it in its entirety.

Sarcastic_Angel - I think I sort of understand; its just that after the unwanted pregnancy already occured [and we're talking here of the cases where the woman knows that she will NOT be a parent and take care of the kid] then there probably isn't much a couselor can do to ease her situation. The choice in this case is down to just abortion vs. adoption, and for a lot of woman probably the latter would be much more traumatizing because only a few are willing to go through all the torture of pregnancy and birth just to give the child away after that. I don't see how carrying to term in the case of unwanted pregnancy would be a better choice for her, like you implied. And specifically in case of rape it definitely isn't a better choice. Also, how can the couselor know better than the woman herself what is best for her? If she knows she doesn't want the child, trying to persuade her to still go through the pregnancy won't be of much help. And what would be the use of "ensuring she is not using abortion as a form of birth control"? What does this mean exactly? If it means having sex without any protection that results in unwanted pregnancy, if the pregnancy already occured it's still to late to go back and do anything about it and it's still up to the woman herself to decide how to solve the situation. And it should be just up to her in all cases, regardless of how the unwanted pregnancy occured. Generally I guess I just don't care about fetuses; and if a woman doesn't want it inside of her body I don't see why she should be persuaded into taking the way of suffering and keep the fetus she doesn't want and neither does anyone else. And I'm very passionate about this issue; if people are pro-life personally and pro-choice politically like you are, I respect that, but what I can't stand are militant pro-lifers because I see them as a big threat to personal freedom of women.

Also, the situation that Exark wishes for, would result in: many women severely harming their health or even killing themselves in the process of attempting illegal abortion, perhaps even many women comitting suicide, and also many born children being secretly killed by their mother and/or thrown away [yes, such things also happen.] Very humane indeed. eek I honestly don't care if the fetus is a living thing; the human beings I do care for are the women who are already here, having their own life, thinking, feeling and suffering.

Well, while i agree with saving the life of the mother over the child.

My philosophy is simple: Life must be preserved at any cost.

Now in the case of a malformed fetus that would not be able to survive outside the womb. That i'd have to ask a priest about.

Personally, I'm pro-life. I could never make the decision to end the life of another, be it a fetus or a fully grown human. I'm probably the type of person who would die rather than kill in self defense, I really can't think of hurting someone like that.

However, I'm a realist. I have no rights to make that choice for somebody else, nor can I require that someone else follow my own morality. That's bullshit. And even if Abortion is made illegal or conditional(only in cases of rape, incest, or harm to the mother), there will still be women wanting one bad enough to the point of harming themselves to get one(back alley or trying to use a bent hanger or something).

So, TL;DR, I am personally Pro-Life, but I would vote Pro-Choice.