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Neferet -House of Night- Crew
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 Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:40 pm
So me and friend were talking last night and came up with a theory. It's rather interesting really. We discussed the trinity and how the concept can't be monotheistic as people claim. No this theory isn't going to shake any beliefs as it's not proven or fact.
Anywho, we examined the Trinity and compared it to the Hindu God Ashura or Ashra. We all know that Ashra has 3 different faces showing 3 different emotions but has one body. Now examine the Trinity. You have YHVH, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. Each one is a different side representing something different but they have one body. So why shouldn't Christianity be considered soft polytheism? Islam and Judaism view God as having one side, so why can't Christians?
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:45 pm
Wording of the doctrine is what keeps it from being polytheistic and also makes it as confusing as hell because there were philosophies about God that just aren't discussed anymore within Christianity. Here is the link to the Athanasian CreedHere is how I understand and why I accept it. I am an id, an ego, and a super-ego. I am each of these, psychically, but each of these are unique to each other. At least that's my understanding in that this doctrine since it was designed to make the Scriptures make sense (like why the Father did not suffer on the Cross) and at the same time be a model for the divinity within us (assuming you believe in God)
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:55 pm
Well... There is a problem with your argument. You are only discussing one god, Ashura, who has three personalities. So, technically, that is still monotheistic... as Ashura is one god, amidst the many in Hinduism, which would then make it Polytheistic.
But, to go a bit further, the Trinity isn't really like "personalities" or "faces" of God. They are distinct in their own ways, yet of one essence. An example I once read about was that the Trinity is like a triangle (imagine that), each of the three points are the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. There are 3 different points but one triangle. I guess that is a very simple way of thinking about the Trinity. XD
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:25 pm
my religion would be considered soft polytheism so to provide my side of what's up would be some what futile currently, being that I believe that all three are seperate and distinct being.
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Neferet -House of Night- Crew
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:28 am
mazuac Well... There is a problem with your argument. You are only discussing one god, Ashura, who has three personalities. So, technically, that is still monotheistic... as Ashura is one god, amidst the many in Hinduism, which would then make it Polytheistic.
But, to go a bit further, the Trinity isn't really like "personalities" or "faces" of God. They are distinct in their own ways, yet of one essence. An example I once read about was that the Trinity is like a triangle (imagine that), each of the three points are the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. There are 3 different points but one triangle. I guess that is a very simple way of thinking about the Trinity. XD Ashra's the only one I know of that is like the Trinity. -.- I mean it's better than my theory on God having MPD ya know. Course I could use the Morrigan...which is the same as the Trinity in the sense.
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:19 am
-xXLady RaiXx- mazuac Well... There is a problem with your argument. You are only discussing one god, Ashura, who has three personalities. So, technically, that is still monotheistic... as Ashura is one god, amidst the many in Hinduism, which would then make it Polytheistic.
But, to go a bit further, the Trinity isn't really like "personalities" or "faces" of God. They are distinct in their own ways, yet of one essence. An example I once read about was that the Trinity is like a triangle (imagine that), each of the three points are the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. There are 3 different points but one triangle. I guess that is a very simple way of thinking about the Trinity. XD Ashra's the only one I know of that is like the Trinity. -.- I mean it's better than my theory on God having MPD ya know. Course I could use the Morrigan...which is the same as the Trinity in the sense. What's an MPD? And also, there is a Hindi "trinity" with three gods. I think it's Vishnu, Brahma and Shiva, however they are all separate gods/goddesses.
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Neferet -House of Night- Crew
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:07 am
mazuac -xXLady RaiXx- mazuac Well... There is a problem with your argument. You are only discussing one god, Ashura, who has three personalities. So, technically, that is still monotheistic... as Ashura is one god, amidst the many in Hinduism, which would then make it Polytheistic.
But, to go a bit further, the Trinity isn't really like "personalities" or "faces" of God. They are distinct in their own ways, yet of one essence. An example I once read about was that the Trinity is like a triangle (imagine that), each of the three points are the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. There are 3 different points but one triangle. I guess that is a very simple way of thinking about the Trinity. XD Ashra's the only one I know of that is like the Trinity. -.- I mean it's better than my theory on God having MPD ya know. Course I could use the Morrigan...which is the same as the Trinity in the sense. What's an MPD? And also, there is a Hindi "trinity" with three gods. I think it's Vishnu, Brahma and Shiva, however they are all separate gods/goddesses. MPD=Multiple Personality Disorder. :3 With the Morrigan or Triple Goddess, it's the mother maiden and crone. 3 seperate beings that are worshiped as one. I think they're the Celtic version of Trinity. I need to look over my Celtic Pantheon some more. xD
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:11 pm
-xXLady RaiXx- mazuac -xXLady RaiXx- mazuac Well... There is a problem with your argument. You are only discussing one god, Ashura, who has three personalities. So, technically, that is still monotheistic... as Ashura is one god, amidst the many in Hinduism, which would then make it Polytheistic.
But, to go a bit further, the Trinity isn't really like "personalities" or "faces" of God. They are distinct in their own ways, yet of one essence. An example I once read about was that the Trinity is like a triangle (imagine that), each of the three points are the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. There are 3 different points but one triangle. I guess that is a very simple way of thinking about the Trinity. XD Ashra's the only one I know of that is like the Trinity. -.- I mean it's better than my theory on God having MPD ya know. Course I could use the Morrigan...which is the same as the Trinity in the sense. What's an MPD? And also, there is a Hindi "trinity" with three gods. I think it's Vishnu, Brahma and Shiva, however they are all separate gods/goddesses. MPD=Multiple Personality Disorder. :3 With the Morrigan or Triple Goddess, it's the mother maiden and crone. 3 seperate beings that are worshiped as one. I think they're the Celtic version of Trinity. I need to look over my Celtic Pantheon some more. xD Lol, I don't think the Triune God of Christianity suffers from MPD, as... well they are all the same Deity, following the same ethics and morals of perfection and what not. XD
And ah, slightly off topic, do the Stonehenge have anything to do with Celtic Paganism or... do we still not know anything about them?
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Neferet -House of Night- Crew
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:18 pm
mazuac -xXLady RaiXx- mazuac -xXLady RaiXx- mazuac Well... There is a problem with your argument. You are only discussing one god, Ashura, who has three personalities. So, technically, that is still monotheistic... as Ashura is one god, amidst the many in Hinduism, which would then make it Polytheistic.
But, to go a bit further, the Trinity isn't really like "personalities" or "faces" of God. They are distinct in their own ways, yet of one essence. An example I once read about was that the Trinity is like a triangle (imagine that), each of the three points are the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. There are 3 different points but one triangle. I guess that is a very simple way of thinking about the Trinity. XD Ashra's the only one I know of that is like the Trinity. -.- I mean it's better than my theory on God having MPD ya know. Course I could use the Morrigan...which is the same as the Trinity in the sense. What's an MPD? And also, there is a Hindi "trinity" with three gods. I think it's Vishnu, Brahma and Shiva, however they are all separate gods/goddesses. MPD=Multiple Personality Disorder. :3 With the Morrigan or Triple Goddess, it's the mother maiden and crone. 3 seperate beings that are worshiped as one. I think they're the Celtic version of Trinity. I need to look over my Celtic Pantheon some more. xD Lol, I don't think the Triune God of Christianity suffers from MPD, as... well they are all the same Deity, following the same ethics and morals of perfection and what not. XD
And ah, slightly off topic, do the Stonehenge have anything to do with Celtic Paganism or... do we still not know anything about them? They are the same but they're different parts. And with Stonehenge, I think it does have to deal with the Druids. I'm not sure. There's a special on Nat Geo about it though. xD
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 2:09 pm
-xXLady RaiXx- mazuac -xXLady RaiXx- mazuac -xXLady RaiXx- mazuac Well... There is a problem with your argument. You are only discussing one god, Ashura, who has three personalities. So, technically, that is still monotheistic... as Ashura is one god, amidst the many in Hinduism, which would then make it Polytheistic.
But, to go a bit further, the Trinity isn't really like "personalities" or "faces" of God. They are distinct in their own ways, yet of one essence. An example I once read about was that the Trinity is like a triangle (imagine that), each of the three points are the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. There are 3 different points but one triangle. I guess that is a very simple way of thinking about the Trinity. XD Ashra's the only one I know of that is like the Trinity. -.- I mean it's better than my theory on God having MPD ya know. Course I could use the Morrigan...which is the same as the Trinity in the sense. What's an MPD? And also, there is a Hindi "trinity" with three gods. I think it's Vishnu, Brahma and Shiva, however they are all separate gods/goddesses. MPD=Multiple Personality Disorder. :3 With the Morrigan or Triple Goddess, it's the mother maiden and crone. 3 seperate beings that are worshiped as one. I think they're the Celtic version of Trinity. I need to look over my Celtic Pantheon some more. xD Lol, I don't think the Triune God of Christianity suffers from MPD, as... well they are all the same Deity, following the same ethics and morals of perfection and what not. XD
And ah, slightly off topic, do the Stonehenge have anything to do with Celtic Paganism or... do we still not know anything about them? They are the same but they're different parts. And with Stonehenge, I think it does have to deal with the Druids. I'm not sure. There's a special on Nat Geo about it though. xD Yeah~ :]
And I <3 Nat Geo and History XD
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:41 am
While it may be interesting to ponder on these things, I don't find them very important for us and for our faith, as we can probably never fully understand.
Which makes me think of the story about St. Augustine, maybe some of you have heard of it too.
There is a story that St. Augustine was walking on the beach contemplating the mystery of the Trinity. Then he saw a boy in front of him who had dug a hole in the sand and was going out to the sea again and again and bringing some water to pour into the hole. St. Augustine asked him, “What are you doing?” “I’m going to pour the entire ocean into this hole.” “That is impossible, the whole ocean will not fit in the hole you have made” said St. Augustine. The boy replied, “And you cannot fit the Trinity in your tiny little brain.” The story concludes by saying that the boy vanished as St. Augustine had been talking to an angel.
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