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 Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:51 pm
I'm always afraid of making useless threads, but there are a few homophobe related things that have really been getting to me, so I thought it would be good to vent for a bit. Also thought other people might want to vent a bit as well. It's good stress relief to write it out.
Incident#1:
We had a sub in math class, so no one was really working, just sitting in groups talking. None of my friends have class with me that period, so I thought I'd take the time to get some work done on the backpack I was knitting. While I'm sitting there trying to untangle some yarn, I couldn't help but overhear the conversation of the group sitting in front of me. I didn't want to listen in on them, but I didn't really have a choice, I was only a few feet away. So, I hear this girl, Margaret, mutter to her friend "Pull down your shirt, she's looking at your a**." I do a subtle look behind me, just to make sure, and am not surprised to find that I am the only person who they could possibly be referring to. I was fairly surprised, 'cause I had been looking in the opposite direction, fully concentrated on my tangled yarn. Not to mention I didn't even find this girl attractive. I didn't say anything to her, 'cause I still had some doubt that they were referring to me.
A few minutes later, I catch another piece of their conversation, "I'd hate to be like that. Its so gross. And you shame yourself and your family." By then I was having lovely images of violence, but I still didn't say anything to her, since I didn't hear the whole conversation, and I really shouldn't have heard it in the first place. When I got home, I found a message from an acquaintance of mine who had been sitting with them apologizing for not stopping them. She had tried to steer the conversation in a different direction, but they hadn't gone with it. Well, then I was pretty pissed, because I knew for sure that they had been talking about me, and a really regretted not doing something at the time.
My friend wanted me to bring this up in GSA, so I did, and someone mentioned that Margaret, had also said that if she had a gay baby, she'd kill it. She's totally crazy. She wants to kill babies, but I'm the sick one!? Grrrrrr
(My mom's comment to this was that the idea of sexual active babies disturbed her xd )
Incident#2:
A group of friends and I were killing time after school. Gianna had a skirt over her jeans, so she took it off and had Pat wear it, and tied his shirt up in a knot. Some guys across the street started shouting some fairly nasty stuff at him, that I don't feel much like repeating it. Pat told them to come up with some original insults, and we all mock cheered when they attempted to. The guys got pissed, and came across the street. They started threatening Pat, telling him, in essence, that they'd do him serious harm if he didn't take the skirt off, or if they ever saw him in it again. A bunch of us were ready to defend Pat (eight of us against two of them. Not to mention myself and at least one other in our group had martial arts training; easy fight), but Pat is a hippie, and in his own words "a runner, not a fighter.", so he effectively defused the situation before it came to blows. Its still bothering me that these guys got away with it.
All right, I've had my vent session (sorry i was so wordy). If anyone else needs to let off some steam, feel free. Also, any ideas about what to do with these people would be much appreciated. (My brother suggested hitting on Margaret, but its just too ick, for lack of a better word xp )
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:06 pm
These things made my eyes go wide. Especially the first one. I'm very much of the slogan: "stand up for gay rights" (maybe that's why I married my girlfriend over the internet ^^.. j/k it's because I love her)
This just makes me sick. I guess I could say that I'm lucky I've never come across something like this before in my life, people here are quite tolerant of each other. *luckily*
Hitting on her though, would be a good thing to do to get back at her, but as you say it's too ''ick'', then don't. Revenge is never a good thing *I know it's not* but it's a nice feeling if you got it *I know it is*.
Anyway, I hope things will get better for you and that you and Pat and the rest can all live their lifes without having to worry about what other's might think.
*hugs*
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:26 pm
i know how you feel some days special my friend who hates gays and what not which for the most part upset me but not as much if he had known a little something about me (which he doesn't know so it''s not quite as bad) then's my parents making sexaul jokes in some form or fashion about 1 week or two and they keep up with the joke for about 20 - 30 min, they do that cause they think that it might make me more comfortable to talk about those kinds of things with them but really it makes it harder for me to do so cause i keep tihnking they will crack a joke about it and i'll be back to feeling like crap. so i guess that's my mini rant, thanx to anyone who reads.
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:43 pm
Dark Eagle Babe These things made my eyes go wide. Especially the first one. I'm very much of the slogan: "stand up for gay rights" (maybe that's why I married my girlfriend over the internet ^^.. j/k it's because I love her) This just makes me sick. I guess I could say that I'm lucky I've never come across something like this before in my life, people here are quite tolerant of each other. *luckily* Hitting on her though, would be a good thing to do to get back at her, but as you say it's too ''ick'', then don't. Revenge is never a good thing *I know it's not* but it's a nice feeling if you got it *I know it is*. Anyway, I hope things will get better for you and that you and Pat and the rest can all live their lifes without having to worry about what other's might think. *hugs* Thanks ^_^ Twas a fairly new experience for me. I'm generally shielded by the fact that a have very liberal friends, and a good deal of them aren't straight, so I usually don't interact with homophobes at school. Haven't had to deal with people talking about me since I came out in freshman year. And the thing with pat was the first time people threatened physical violence. I don't particularly care what they think of me, never have, but I'd prefer, in the case of Margaret, that she have the nerve to say it to me face. Or at least the skill to correctly talk behind my back rolleyes If she tries anything again, I'll call her on it, but it's already too after the fact to confront her on what she's already done (she's probably forgotten about it already xp ). If I had been a little more sure that I was right about what she was saying, I would have done something about it, but its too late now.*sigh* Everything's good now, and Pat's fine. I suppose it just bugs me because I hold grudges on occasion, and I'm annoyed at the fact that I had a chance in both cases to do something, but I opted not to at the time, due to lack of information/Pat's hippiness, and now I wish I had handled the situation differently. Eh, c'est la vie. Thanks for your concern ^_^ And congratulations with your girlfriend, that's so great ^_^ icomeinpieces i know how you feel some days special my friend who hates gays and what not which for the most part upset me but not as much if he had known a little something about me (which he doesn't know so it''s not quite as bad) then's my parents making sexaul jokes in some form or fashion about 1 week or two and they keep up with the joke for about 20 - 30 min, they do that cause they think that it might make me more comfortable to talk about those kinds of things with them but really it makes it harder for me to do so cause i keep tihnking they will crack a joke about it and i'll be back to feeling like crap. so i guess that's my mini rant, thanx to anyone who reads. Aw, that's tough *hugs* I know what you mean. The reason I I told my mom I was bi first place was because she made a joke that irritated me, and I kind of let it slip in annoyance sweatdrop I hope you feel better *glompage*
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 10:24 am
thnx Lavyne, i kinda wish something like that would happen to me and i would just let it slip but somehow i keep stoping myself and calming down to quick to let something like that slip. so until the day i bring home a guy or they find out i visit this guild and put 2 and 2 together that i'm bi, they'll just sit in the dark for now sweatdrop
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 10:30 am
*hugs* I know people like those guys and some days it makes me sick.
But all we can do is to defend who we are, support out community. We can't change people's opinions but we can at least fight for what we believe it and now we are the people who are in the right because we are not degrading people to make ourselves feel better.
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 10:33 am
i came out last year about being bi. and it was crazy, half the friends i had then hate me now, and out of hte rest only 2 or 3 dont act like i have some sort of disease. and it hasnt stopped there, at lunch im the joke to everyone, all i ever hear is "watch out girls , she might try to rape you!" i went to the school officer about it, and nothing was done. my dad is straight out homophobe, so i cant be open at home. and between getting pushed down flights of stairs at school and yelled at when im home for not being the perfect little girlmy mom knows about me) i just dont think i can put up with it much longer. i've been near suicide because of all the pressure put on me, and i almost regret being open.
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