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 Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 9:27 pm
Can you help me how to grammer?? I want to learn how to rp and grammer because Home page said that s "Literate" Its kinda hard for me because Im deaf in Rl.. my english is not good as most.. Can We rping anything or what?
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 11:27 pm
Okay, being deaf, you are going to have a little harder time.
The Grammar we are talking about here is like when you are writing a letter, not talking on your TDX (is that right?)
Spelling out your words, All of them. Using capitalizations. Like you were reading a book.
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 3:32 pm
I thought grammar would be the same no matter what, even if you cannot hear it you should be able to write. Aren't there special classes for people that are deaf for stringing grammatically correct sentences together?
He can read just like the rest of us... I'm not putting the dots together how being deaf has anything to do with being able to write...
I'm not trying to be mean, I just don't understand! *sobs*
Sorry! I'm not a meanie!!!
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 3:49 pm
My best suggestion would be to read other peoples grammar.
Your's isn't too bad and mine is anything but perfect. You're just missing a few punctual things and a few words here of there. For example, I'll take what you've written:
Can you help me how to grammer?? I want to learn how to rp and grammer because Home page said that s "Literate" Its kinda hard for me because Im deaf in Rl.. my english is not good as most.. Can We rping anything or what?
Now I will refraise it in a more grammatical sense:
Can you help me learn how to use better grammer?? I want to learn how to rp and how to use better grammer because the Home page said that its a "Literate" guild. Its kind of hard for me because Im deaf in Rl.. my english is not good as most.. Can We RP together or what should I do?
Now look at the slight differences. Your post is in italics, mine is the one that has the underlines. The underlines are words that I added or changed in a way that I might use. As I said, mine has many flaws but it is a fairly good example however.
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 4:09 pm
EPIC_AMI I thought grammar would be the same no matter what, even if you cannot hear it you should be able to write. Aren't there special classes for people that are deaf for stringing grammatically correct sentences together?
He can read just like the rest of us... I'm not putting the dots together how being deaf has anything to do with being able to write...
I'm not trying to be mean, I just don't understand! *sobs*
Sorry! I'm not a meanie!!! The thing is, when people use sign language, there are normal parts of speaking that are left out (which parts I'm not sure, but I'm thinking simple words like "a", "the", etc.) and since sign language is universal, the way that subjects, verbs, adjectives, etc. fall into a sentence may be different. How he types is how he would think to speak it were he signing it out, not if he were reading it.
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 4:20 pm
Yeah, and it's even better than that.
The order or words can be mixed up in a signed sentance.
For instance, I might want to say "The hollow went over and started chewing on the dead dog."
the sign can come out as "moved, hollow, dog, ate, dead."
or "hollow moved to dead dog, ate"
or "dead dog eaten hollow"
and they are all gramatically correct in ASL. So you get out of the habit of signing the articles. All you really need are subjects and verbs, and you don't need descriptive words. so adjectives and adverbs (which modify subjects and verbs respectively) are not really present. their root nouns and verbs are.
Instead of saying "beautiful" you sign "beauty". You don't sign "angry" you sign "anger". You pick it up from context as to if it's a modifier or not.
But writing is the same for deaf and hearing, he just has to slow down and actually remember to put in all those modifiers and so on. Just like reading a book.
(can you tell I wanted to be an ASL translator for a while?)
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 4:31 pm
Hollow-Ichigo-San Can you help me how to grammer?? I want to learn how to rp and grammer because Home page said that s "Literate" Its kinda hard for me because Im deaf in Rl.. my english is not good as most.. Can We rping anything or what? Okay, let me translate this into gramatically correct English so you can see the difference. Quote: Can you help me how to grammer?? "Can you help me with my grammar?" "Can you help my grammar skills?" "Can you teach me how to use grammer when I write?" "Can anyone show me how to write with good grammar?" Quote: I want to learn how to rp and grammer because Home page said that s "Literate" "I want to learn how to roleplay and use grammar correctly becasue the HomePage said this is a literate guild." "I want to learn how to Roleplay correctly and to use Good grammar because the home page said that the Sereitei is a literate guild." (( IMO, you did pretty good with this sentance. )) Quote: Its kinda hard for me because Im deaf in Rl.. "It is very hard for me in real life because I'm deaf." "It's hard for me to use correct grammar because I'm deaf in real life" (( its is the possessive. it is is contracted to it's. It's important that you keep them straight.)) Quote: my english is not good as most.. Can We rping anything or what? "My English is not as good as most people's. Can we RolePlay or something like that so I can practice?" "My English isn't as good as most of what I read. Can we RP anything or can I be helped?" There's a lot of ways for this to be translated, and written English is a very precise language. Slow down, take your time and choose the exact word instead of the almost right word. It will take you time and practice, but if you read a lot of books, you will get a feel for how to write correctly. I'm really proud of you for trying to improve your grammar skills.
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 4:59 pm
Daven: I understand anything but depend on me because what they mean when they rp with me or everybody. like "Ike placed his hand on his head back while smile at her/him. "Hello Im Axel Ike what's your name?" As he said to him with his hands into his pockets.
Okay Daven you know I used alot for that "with his hands into his pockets" All the time I love that.
Juxvi3t: That's correct I use ASL alot than english. Because My friends and I use sign lauguge as ASL. We understand what it say.. I am trying to learning how to use grammer with english and I need to learn how to rping with people who rping with me. I can read anything but It is very hard for me and depend what they mean as write.
EPIC_AMI: That's alright I understand.. I should be able to write what they say or rping.. you're not mean wink Im not mad or upset.
Skivves: Alright I got it what you said. I was demote down as lower seat now I was upset but I need to learn more how to use grammer and I have fun rping with people who is higher captain, Vc, seats, and unseated..
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 5:26 pm
One thing you should know:
If you are indicating a specific part of something, like the back of something, you should phrase it just like that.
This is in regard of your last post sample.
"Ike placed his hands on the back of his head while he smiled at him/her.
Also, you don't need the "as" in there.
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 5:29 pm
*tackles Daven*
It is “grammar” not “grammer”.
Many people try to spell what they hear most commonly, many words like grammar are said incorrectly leading most to believe that it would be written out like GRAMMER. The same happens with “harassment”, it’s said incorrectly like (hair-a**-ment) when actually, the grammatically correct way to say it is (hair-ess-ment).
Trust me with that, I had a huge argument with my high school teacher…
BUT! Why would EPIC say that? Well it’s simple, in your defense Hollow, even those of us that can speak and listen have trouble writing/talking correctly. *huggles* It’s a struggle all of us are fighting to conquer!
*raises fist* To battle we shall travel, and return home as champions!
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 5:46 pm
Bullene:Okay I got it thank you, Bull or Bull-san?! lol
ERIC_AMI: Oh my mistake. I hate it when I spell wrong like that.. sweatdrop
Okay, Anything? Can We rping together with practice or What should I do?? I can learn as long??
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:02 pm
You're learning so I'll help with just your last sentence. Quote: Okay, Anything? Can We rping together with practice or What should I do?? I can learn as long?? Quote: It's okay can as long as we roleplay together and practice, or what should I do?? As long as I can learn.
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:06 pm
Feel free to PM me if you ever want one-on-one non-judgmental RP practice. The best way to use grammar is to see it use, then put it into practice!
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:08 pm
*poke*
We can RP if you want.
Is your character a Shinigami? Ai Ami is just a normal soul right now. We'll be able to be one of the first one's to RP in that new sub-forum! *wiggles*
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:11 pm
AMI: Yes My character is a shinigami and Im 7th seat. Okay Thank you. I will see you there.
K_19: I will thank you
Caster Rei: Oh my mistake lol I can make mistake alot..
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