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 Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 10:24 pm
Hallo all. My name is Sanguina-chan, and I'm the new captain.
There will be some changes. I'd like to make this more of a spiritual-sharing sort of place, but with a stress on questioning, learning and respect. So in other words, not all that much is going to be changing wink but the guild will probably have a new flavour.
It's a pan-Pagan guild. There will be no focus on druidry, and the term won't be used much within the guild.
So here's how things are going right now...
If you can't find a thread it will probably be in the "archive" subforum. It's an open subforum and you can read through most of the old posts. I have deleted some, but most will still be there. This includes the old intro thread and the thread dedicated to Pyrella's memory.
If you don't know where to post whilst I'm revamping things, just post in the main forum. I can clean everything up later.
If you have thoughts or problems post them or send me a PM.
If you would like to donate to the guild hang onto your gold for the time being. I will work out a guild mule and so on later on and we have enough in the way of subforums for now.
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 3:24 am
I think that it is about time that SOMETHING was done with the guild.
Though i did join this guild specifically because it was a druid guild so i hope you done mind if i make o forum or two that will concertrait mainly on (neo)druidity.
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 5:02 am
I'm willing to give over one subforum to discussion of ADF or similar, so long as the word "druidry" isn't used wink I don't see the use of the word "druid" in such a context to be appropriate or accurate.
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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 4:50 am
Sanguina Cruenta I'm willing to give over one subforum to discussion of ADF or similar, so long as the word "druidry" isn't used wink I don't see the use of the word "druid" in such a context to be appropriate or accurate. why is that??
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Violet Song jat Shariff Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:44 pm
xXrainbowrazorsXx Sanguina Cruenta I'm willing to give over one subforum to discussion of ADF or similar, so long as the word "druidry" isn't used wink I don't see the use of the word "druid" in such a context to be appropriate or accurate. why is that?? 1) Because druids were a specific caste in Celt society. They were the lawyers/historians/doctors/architects of society. They were not specifically a religious group. There is no place in modern society, Celt or non-Celt, for the position of druid. 2)Celt culture is a closed culture. If you do not actively participate in the culture, you are not entitled to co-opt the conventions of their culture. A closed culture means that it, nor any of the concepts found within are open to outsiders and/or people who do not meet certain requirements as set forth by the culture. That includes co-opting the title "Druid" to mean some sort of ambiguous nature-worker with magical powers.
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:37 am
Violet Song jat Shariff xXrainbowrazorsXx Sanguina Cruenta I'm willing to give over one subforum to discussion of ADF or similar, so long as the word "druidry" isn't used wink I don't see the use of the word "druid" in such a context to be appropriate or accurate. why is that?? 1) Because druids were a specific caste in Celt society. They were the lawyers/historians/doctors/architects of society. They were not specifically a religious group. There is no place in modern society, Celt or non-Celt, for the position of druid. 2)Celt culture is a closed culture. If you do not actively participate in the culture, you are not entitled to co-opt the conventions of their culture. A closed culture means that it, nor any of the concepts found within are open to outsiders and/or people who do not meet certain requirements as set forth by the culture. That includes co-opting the title "Druid" to mean some sort of ambiguous nature-worker with magical powers. that was VERY generalised and when this guild was the druid grove it was ment for the modern day druid or "neo"-druid. and because of european invasion no one can say 0 what a druid was exatically
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:04 am
Actually, though Druids are extinct, the culture that they were apart of still exists. Members of that culture have described what druids were and have stated that the paths that are currently claiming the title...
a... have no right to claim it
b... do not resemble in any way what druids actually were
While the paths are perfectly valid, the title used isn't. gonk
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 6:55 pm
xXrainbowrazorsXx Violet Song jat Shariff xXrainbowrazorsXx Sanguina Cruenta I'm willing to give over one subforum to discussion of ADF or similar, so long as the word "druidry" isn't used wink I don't see the use of the word "druid" in such a context to be appropriate or accurate. why is that?? 1) Because druids were a specific caste in Celt society. They were the lawyers/historians/doctors/architects of society. They were not specifically a religious group. There is no place in modern society, Celt or non-Celt, for the position of druid. 2)Celt culture is a closed culture. If you do not actively participate in the culture, you are not entitled to co-opt the conventions of their culture. A closed culture means that it, nor any of the concepts found within are open to outsiders and/or people who do not meet certain requirements as set forth by the culture. That includes co-opting the title "Druid" to mean some sort of ambiguous nature-worker with magical powers. that was VERY generalised and when this guild was the druid grove it was ment for the modern day druid or "neo"-druid. and because of european invasion no one can say 0 what a druid was exatically Oh yes; the part where I said they were a specific caste and then went on to mention the jobs their caste handled was totally generalized. That may be what the guild was meant for with the previous owner, but that does not legitimize the misappropriation of the title "druid." Actually we can thanks to second-hand accounts 3nodding .
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Violet Song jat Shariff Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 4:52 am
ncsweet Actually, though Druids are extinct, the culture that they were apart of still exists. Members of that culture have described what druids were and have stated that the paths that are currently claiming the title... a... have no right to claim it b... do not resemble in any way what druids actually were While the paths are perfectly valid, the title used isn't. gonk agreed but you still know what i mean when i say "modern druid". the meaning of the word has changed. but your point is valid
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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 5:04 am
Violet Song jat Shariff xXrainbowrazorsXx Violet Song jat Shariff xXrainbowrazorsXx Sanguina Cruenta I'm willing to give over one subforum to discussion of ADF or similar, so long as the word "druidry" isn't used wink I don't see the use of the word "druid" in such a context to be appropriate or accurate. why is that?? 1) Because druids were a specific caste in Celt society. They were the lawyers/historians/doctors/architects of society. They were not specifically a religious group. There is no place in modern society, Celt or non-Celt, for the position of druid. 2)Celt culture is a closed culture. If you do not actively participate in the culture, you are not entitled to co-opt the conventions of their culture. A closed culture means that it, nor any of the concepts found within are open to outsiders and/or people who do not meet certain requirements as set forth by the culture. That includes co-opting the title "Druid" to mean some sort of ambiguous nature-worker with magical powers. that was VERY generalised and when this guild was the druid grove it was ment for the modern day druid or "neo"-druid. and because of european invasion no one can say 0 what a druid was exatically Oh yes; the part where I said they were a specific caste and then went on to mention the jobs their caste handled was totally generalized. That may be what the guild was meant for with the previous owner, but that does not legitimize the misappropriation of the title "druid." Actually we can thanks to second-hand accounts 3nodding . Just because you use the word specific does not make your two points so. Whole series of books can be written on celtic culture and on druid prctices. and it seems you yourself are very closed to other cultures.
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Violet Song jat Shariff Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:32 pm
xXrainbowrazorsXx Just because you use the word specific does not make your two points so. So the listing of the specific jobs the caste of druid had weren't specific enough for you either? Quote: Whole series of books can be written on celtic culture and on druid prctices. Indeed they can. I'm not sure what your point is with this. It seems you are agreeing with me that second hand accounts that were recorded are valid sources? Either way, it doesn't justify misappropriating a caste that wasn't intrinsically religious and slapping a bunch of random ENP meaning onto it. Quote: and it seems you yourself are very closed to other cultures. How am I closed to other cultures? I acknowledge that a particular culture isn't open to me. I accept it and I move on. I don't try to necro long-dead castes from that society in an effort to feel sewpr xtra awsum kewl. It would seem, rather, that you are sticking your head in the sand to the fact that a culture doesn't want to be and isn't required to be open to you.
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Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:18 am
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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:05 am
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