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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 6:37 am
The Financial Times Toyota reveals first annual loss in years By Jonathan Soble in Tokyo Published: May 8 2009 07:21 | Last updated: May 8 2009 09:31 Toyota Motor revealed a Y766bn ($7.7bn) net loss for the quarter to March on Friday – a bigger deficit than US rival General Motors’ – and warned that it would remain deeply unprofitable in the current financial year. The automaker, which like other Japan-based manufacturers has been hurt by a stronger yen as well as plunging worldwide demand, said it expected to sell 6.5m cars and trucks in the year to March 2010, a million fewer than last year. Just a year ago Toyota was celebrating record profits as it climbed past GM to become the world’s largest car producer, a position it has kept only thanks to even sharper declines in sales and output at its teetering US rival. The size of Toyota’s projected net loss this year, at Y550bn, took analysts by surprise. Its Y437bn loss for the full year to March – the first for the company since a crisis following the second world war – was also larger than expected. Toyota itself had warned of a Y350bn deficit. Toyota’s performance compared unfavourably with that of Honda, its smaller Japanese rival, which lost Y1.9bn in the latest quarter but expects to make money this year because of its focus on better-selling compact cars and motorcycles. GM lost $6bn in the quarter and Ford reported a $1.4bn loss. GM warned this week that prolonged uncertainty over its financial condition risked creating a ”vicious circle” of falling sales and production of its cars. Full text here. Expect the Japanese government to do more of their interfering by manipulating the Yen to become weaker, like they always do. I hope someday, people will see them for the cutthroat bastards they really are, and actually start learning to help ourselves by keeping our money here in the US. But I give Americans too much credit, even in CA and NY (supposedly the most enlightened states) people continue to follow like sheep and believe that Japanese and European cars have higher quality and reliability....
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 9:57 am
Well, this IS a worldwide shake-up and its not surprising that the biggest companies with the largest levels of debt are being hit the hardest. We've had one of the world's finest leisure boatyards here in Oz just go into recievership, bloody shocking!
And now someone's gotten onto the press' backs down here and they're tring to tell the public that its "not that bad?" I'll bet you its the same thing, if not worse going on in JPN with the hive-mind being so easily influenced.
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 12:14 pm
Well its either going to get worse before it gets better, or its going to get better. Its not like the money is dissapearing into thin air. Its just going back to the people who lent it out in the first place...only this time with interest. If you got the money, then nows the time to buy. (Houses and property at least). Things will get better, these things happen in cycles.
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Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 9:56 pm
Here is my prediction, I think Hyundai will become the new Toyota when it comes to gaining more customers plus making more sales and leaving the stereotype of them being horrible car makers behind. Toyota did it, now its Hyundai's turn.
As far as American cars stacking up to Japanese and European cars, I don't think American cars are quite at the same level. Low quality plastics fill the cabins, rattles and squeaks can be heard after a long period of time and they don't have has high end technology features that you would find in European or Japanese cars. Now don't get me wrong, their are Japanese and European cars with squeaks and what not, typically the cars below 20k, but they offer more bang for the buck and fit and finish is better on their vehicles above 20k that what you find on American cars.
When it comes to reliability, I think that its ultimately based upon the driver and how they up hold maintenance on their car. European cars cost a arm and a leg to maintain them though. Car mechanics for those cars praise you because it helps send their children to college.
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 3:01 am
Hyundai's pretty much on their way there, but unfortunately they are a very young automaker and haven't yet invested in the technologies to make a powerful engine on their own. I'm thinking that they might leave it up to the aftermarket to decide that and save themselves millions worth of trouble.
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 4:11 am
Quakes21 As far as American cars stacking up to Japanese and European cars, I don't think American cars are quite at the same level. Low quality plastics fill the cabins, rattles and squeaks can be heard after a long period of time and they don't have has high end technology features that you would find in European or Japanese cars. Now don't get me wrong, their are Japanese and European cars with squeaks and what not, typically the cars below 20k, but they offer more bang for the buck and fit and finish is better on their vehicles above 20k that what you find on American cars. Interior RELATIVE to time period and price range: 2004-09 Cadillac XLR (PAR) 2006 Pontiac GTO (PAR) 2006-09 Ford Fusion (HIGHER) 2007-10 Buick Enclave (KILLS) 2008-09 Cadillac CTS (KILLS) 2008-09 Pontiac G8 (PAR) 2008 Chevrolet Malibu (HIGHER) 2008 Ford Flex (PAR) 2009 Dodge Challenger (HIGHER) 2009 Lincoln MKS (Higher) 2010 Ford Fusion (KILLS) 2010 Ford Mustang (PAR/HIGHER) 2010 Buick Lacrosse (KILLS) 2010 Chevrolet Camaro (KILLS) J.D. Power & Associates giving the 2009 crown to Buick for long term reliability (squeaks and rattles included in problems to be reported). Go sit in the cars and drive them, rather than listen to import fans or Consumer Reports (re: Biased Reports). The Chevy bread and butter '08 Malibu kills the Camcordtima interiors. And Ford/Lincoln is making a killing now with the sexy interiors and SYNC. Nowadays the bang for the buck is in American cars. Imports have gotten a bit arrogant and are charging more and more for what you get (save the completely brokenly good priced Genesis Sedan).
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 11:58 am
Yes you are right that American cars are getting better, its just sad that it took a automotive downfall for them to get it right. The Buick Lacrosse looks pretty sick to be honest, but the Challenger has a abundance of plastic so when you have your kicker audio turned way up, you get rattles and the car weighs over 4000 pounds so it its away at its performance, but it is a good looking vehicle. The 2010 Camaro has a simple interior but with the inferno trim package it looks 10x better and the performance you get from the V6 isn't bad.
In my opinion, when it comes to technology, Ford is the best you can get at the moment due it its Microsoft SYNC gadgets. Make the Lincoln MKS RWD and put a more powerful engine in it and around the same price as the V8 Genesis Sedan, you'll see plenty more on the street. I love the Genesis Sedan a lot its spacious, quiet, and it moves 4k pounds pretty well, plus I would die for the Lexicon audio.
Some Japanese auto companies are getting ridiculous though, for example Nissan. Their packages for their cars are expensive now and it seems they are more expensive for a regular Nissan rather than a Infiniti. I personally think Nissan has become all about the money, but I can't resist the G37s, its a wonderful car, no doubt about it.
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 3:55 pm
I will definitely concede to you that the G37 interior is very well done. And I also am not saying that the cars of the past were shining examples of American craftsmanship. They ******** up, and there is NO EXCUSE for it. They let us down, but they were also the least cutthroat and gave the most to their employees (to the point of it ******** up their cashflow and profits). The times of Generous Motors is gone. My point is that NOW there is no difference in quality (some are on par, some are better, some are worse). If I was into the market Buick is going for, I'd totally look at the Lacrosse (but I'm not in for a car in that market). I am in love with the interior, and a press demo will be making its way to us soon (the big four magazines already got their first dibs, since they write their stuff 3 months ahead of the actual magazine's release month). I can't wait to actually ride in one to see if it lives up to the photos and when I sat in it for a minute standing still.
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 2:12 am
Associated Press TORRANCE, Calif. (June 2, 2009) – Toyota Motor Sales, U.S.A., Inc., today reported that May vehicle sales hit a new monthly high for the year and jumped 20.6 percent compared to April 2009. Sales of 152,583 vehicles trailed year ago levels and were down 38.4 percent from last May, on a daily selling rate basis. Ha ha, nice try to "spin" it, Toyota. Of course your sales were up from the previous month, because you had record losses that month. Associated Press TORRANCE, Calif. (May 1, 2009) – Toyota Motor Sales (TMS), U.S.A., Inc., today reported month-end sales of 126,540 vehicles, a decrease of 41.9 percent from last April, on a daily selling rate basis. The Toyota Division posted April sales of 112,345 units, a decrease of 42.2 percent from the same period last year. The Lexus Division reported April sales of 14,195 units, a decrease of 39.2 percent from the year-ago month. Wall Street Journal Ford Motor Co. reported a 32% drop in U.S. vehicle sales for April, but the healthiest of Detroit's auto makers outsold Toyota Motor Co. for the first time in at least a year. The Japanese auto maker's U.S. sales fell 42%. General Motors Corp. said its sales fell 33% last month, however the auto maker noted that shipments were up significantly from March. "We see that stabilization, along with the firming up of our fleet business and improvement in Silverado and Sierra sales, as an encouraging sign," said Mark LaNeve, GM's North American sales chief. Industrywide auto sales have tumbled since September as the U.S. recession took hold. The Commerce Department reported Thursday that consumers cut their spending in March as incomes declined, although a drop in new jobless claims offered some hope that the labor market is stabilizing. "We continue to operate in a very challenging economic and competitive environment," said Ken Czubay, Ford vice president of sales and marketing. GM sold 172,150 vehicles in the U.S. in April, down from 257,638 a year earlier. Its car sales fell 41%, while sales of light trucks – which include sport utility vehicles, vans and pickups – fell 27%. Ford said in April it sold 133,979 light vehicles in the U.S., down from 195,665 a year earlier, but the company said it is gaining market share. Ford, Lincoln and Mercury car sales dropped 31% despite record sales of its Fusion sedan. Sport-utility vehicles continued to tumble, falling 61% in April. Sales of pickups and vans dropped 36%. Toyota sold 126,540 vehicles in the U.S., as both car and light-truck sales fell more than 40%. Finally, maybe Americans are getting it! April 2009 Toyota: -42% Nissan: -38% GM: -34% Ford: -32% Honda: -25% (Yay! My favorite of the Japanese Big 3.) May 2009 Honda: -39% (Damn it!) Toyota: -38% Nissan: -33% GM: -30% Ford: -24%
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:01 am
And Ford is still going strong... mrgreen
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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 10:48 am
Toyota's not making any exciting cars right now aside from the IS-F, which is a car for a select few and therefore cannot be expected to make a huge difference in sales. What else are they making that's exciting? Absolutely nothing. Camry? Gag me, everyone would rather own a Fusion, a Maxima, a Mazda 6 or a Malibu. Corolla? Meet Focus and Sentra. The IS line doesn't look as good or perform as well as Infiniti's G37. The Toyota Venza is ugly as sin and everyone would much rather have a Mazda CX-9. The same goes for the Lexus RX which has always been an incredibly boring SUV, overshadowed heavily by the Nissan Murano and the much more exciting, yet similarly priced Infiniti FX. Scion is dropping in sales because other companies have caught onto its weirdness; take a look at the Kia Soul, Nissan Cube and Ford Flex. Scion's tC? Great for young ricers, but it begs the question: why not buy an Altima Coupe?
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:07 pm
Toyota sure isn't making anything exciting. I like cars that contain a lot of personality or something that you don't see every corner you turn and they are unique in there on way, whether it has certain features you can't get on other vehicles or what not. I'm not sure if a Altima Coupe could be a good alternative to the Scion TC since it cost actually quite a bit more, maybe a Eclipse or even a Focus Coupe.
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