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 Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:14 pm
According to the IHS (International Horn Society for those who don't know), the name "French Horn" is considered an improper term. The only places who actually call it a French Horn, are the U.S., Canada, and parts of the UK. Although other countries call it other names that translate into their language, the most known and common term is simply the horn. for more information http://hornplayer.net/archive/a137.html
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:31 pm
I think its kind of obsurd that the name French Horn even caught on so much...There were many different influences on its history that werent even by France. In fact, the Horn's construction and protomodels were mainly based on the antler of an animal called a Kudu; which is an animal native to AFRICA.
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:48 pm
how do you decide if something is a "proper term" then? because..i mean..if so many people use a term, can you tell them that they're ALL wrong? o.O instruments are called different names all over the world...so telling us it's called something different in different countries isn't really much of a basis to tell us that "french horn" is improper. simply calling it "the horn" does not work either, because all wind instruments are referred to as "horns" my sax is a horn, my clarinet is a horn, my trumpet is a horn...etc.
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:50 pm
I'm sorry, but no way is a sax, or a clairanette a horn. I'll go as far as saying brass can be called horns (because thats how the majority of America sees it) but no way in hell is a woodwind a horn
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:52 pm
bassmaster9575 I think its kind of obsurd that the name French Horn even caught on so much...There were many different influences on its history that werent even by France. In fact, the Horn's construction and protomodels were mainly based on the antler of an animal called a Kudu; which is an animal native to AFRICA. Seriously I agree that it should not be named after France. In my opinion if its to be named after any country it should be Germany. They were the ones to most develop the horn, and where it became popular.
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:13 pm
candy!x0x0 I'm sorry, but no way is a sax, or a clairanette a horn. I'll go as far as saying brass can be called horns (because thats how the majority of America sees it) but no way in hell is a woodwind a horn well, Little Miss Ignorance http://dictionary.reference.com/dic?q=horn&search=search definitions 12 and 13, clarinets and saxophones, and every other woodWIND are wind instruments, therefore they classify as "horns" better yet, farther down the page 6.Music a. 1. A wind instrument made of an animal horn. b. 2. A brass wind instrument, such as a trombone or tuba. c. 3. A French horn. d. 4. A wind instrument, such as a trumpet or saxophone, used in a jazz band. e. 5. A usually electrical signaling device that produces a loud resonant sound: an automobile horn.
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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 5:11 pm
pezhi candy!x0x0 I'm sorry, but no way is a sax, or a clairanette a horn. I'll go as far as saying brass can be called horns (because thats how the majority of America sees it) but no way in hell is a woodwind a horn well, Little Miss Ignorance http://dictionary.reference.com/dic?q=horn&search=search definitions 12 and 13, clarinets and saxophones, and every other woodWIND are wind instruments, therefore they classify as "horns" better yet, farther down the page 6.Music a. 1. A wind instrument made of an animal horn. b. 2. A brass wind instrument, such as a trombone or tuba. c. 3. A French horn. d. 4. A wind instrument, such as a trumpet or saxophone, used in a jazz band. e. 5. A usually electrical signaling device that produces a loud resonant sound: an automobile horn. All I'm saying is that the international Horn Society and yes it is an official group, they have professional members all over the world and if they say that the official name of the french horn is horn, then its horn. If you look at almost every other countries naming of the french horn, it all translates to horn.
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 2:36 pm
candy!x0x0 pezhi candy!x0x0 I'm sorry, but no way is a sax, or a clairanette a horn. I'll go as far as saying brass can be called horns (because thats how the majority of America sees it) but no way in hell is a woodwind a horn well, Little Miss Ignorance http://dictionary.reference.com/dic?q=horn&search=search definitions 12 and 13, clarinets and saxophones, and every other woodWIND are wind instruments, therefore they classify as "horns" better yet, farther down the page 6.Music a. 1. A wind instrument made of an animal horn. b. 2. A brass wind instrument, such as a trombone or tuba. c. 3. A French horn. d. 4. A wind instrument, such as a trumpet or saxophone, used in a jazz band. e. 5. A usually electrical signaling device that produces a loud resonant sound: an automobile horn. All I'm saying is that the international Horn Society and yes it is an official group, they have professional members all over the world and if they say that the official name of the french horn is horn, then its horn. If you look at almost every other countries naming of the french horn, it all translates to horn. Im sorry pezhi, but im gonna have to go with candy!x0x0 on this one, u really have no point here, the name "French Horn" is an improper term because it was neither developed or manufactured soley in France. This disagreement b/w whether or not a clarinet or a saxophone is called a "Horn" is really superfluous. Its beyond me why you would even bring that point up in the first place....
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 2:44 pm
Secondly I would like to add that no other instrument besides the Horn should be called a "horn." This is because of the very fact that a horn by definition has to be conuler bore. A trumpet is a cylindrical bored instrument; therefore, not a "horn." saying a saxophone or clarinet is a horn is just plain stupid...OH! IT HAS A REED; LETS CALL IT A HORN!! puhhhhlease.
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 10:23 pm
bassmaster9575 Secondly I would like to add that no other instrument besides the Horn should be called a "horn." This is because of the very fact that a horn by definition has to be conuler bore. A trumpet is a cylindrical bored instrument; therefore, not a "horn." saying a saxophone or clarinet is a horn is just plain stupid...OH! IT HAS A REED; LETS CALL IT A HORN!! puhhhhlease. agree
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Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 5:43 pm
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Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 5:17 pm
Well, in a way yes. and in another way, no; on the top left hand corner of almost all sheet music will either say Horn in F or Eb. This F means that the key of your instrument is in the key of F. The name of the instrument is just simply "Horn," nothing more and nothing less.
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 8:40 pm
That's wierd. Well,I guess I learn something new everyday.
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 1:00 pm
bassmaster9575 Secondly I would like to add that no other instrument besides the Horn should be called a "horn." This is because of the very fact that a horn by definition has to be conuler bore. A trumpet is a cylindrical bored instrument; therefore, not a "horn." saying a saxophone or clarinet is a horn is just plain stupid...OH! IT HAS A REED; LETS CALL IT A HORN!! puhhhhlease. hmm...well...a saxophone's bore IS conical smile ....by the way..."conuler"???...gain some literacy please biggrin also, i don't care if your little group says that the french horn should only be called the horn. that's like telling someone american indians should be called native americans...most american indians/native americans could really care less smile ...just like most french horn players could really care less. making such a big deal about the name of the instrument just shows how incredibly pompous you all must be.
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 1:04 pm
bassmaster9575 Im sorry pezhi, but im gonna have to go with candy!x0x0 on this one, u really have no point here, the name "French Horn" is an improper term because it was neither developed or manufactured soley in France. This disagreement b/w whether or not a clarinet or a saxophone is called a "Horn" is really superfluous. Its beyond me why you would even bring that point up in the first place.... that's like saying English Horn is improper because it wasn't made in England...if you're going to make such a big deal out of the French Horn, you might as well make a big deal out of the English Horn as well. and my point for bringing that point up is to show that you can't really say horn and expect everyone to know that you are talking about the French Horn, because a lot of people just call wind instruments horns, whether or not they are made of brass or conical in bore.
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