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 Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:49 pm
Everybody is a fan of a particular NFL team.
Everybody followed the NFL Draft this past weekend.
Mix incoming players with your favorite teams, and you are hopefully on your way to winning the next Super Bowl.
...So I invite everyone to write a brief review about how their favorite team carried out during the Draft:
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Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:50 pm
...Overall, I think this was a very solid Draft. I would grade the New York Giants in the B+ to A- range. There were many things that I liked, and a few things that I didn't like.
The Giants obviously needed a WR. Picking up Hakeem Nicks at #29 was a good move. Good route runner, tough, physical, and great hands. I would have taken one of the two big-name middle linebackers here, but that's just me.
The Giants had a lot of picks and not many holes. Something that got me thinking twice was why the Giants didn't trade up in the second round to grab Maualuga or Laurinaitis. The Giants needed a middle linebacker, and easily could have traded up a few spots to select either one of these guys. Both of these two are beasts, and are consistent. Think about how they'd turn out after a year or two learning from Pierce. Either one could have been the franchise LB we were looking for.
Getting Sintim at #45 was a good move. He is a pass rushing LB that is smart, durable, and consistent. Hopefully this addition can get rid of Wilkinson.
We needed offensive line depth, so we were lucky to have Beatty drop to us at #60. That's good value, for someone who can start at LT in the future. Maybe now Deihl can move to guard.
I always wanted Ramses Barden as a WR, and sure enough, we got him at #85. Great size and physicality. He has good hands, and [without Burress] he can be the red zone threat that we need.
Travis Beckum was a decent pick, but there were better TEs on the board at #100. Beckum supposedly has speed, but can't block or catch as well as others. I would have taken Nelson, Casey, or Ingram.
Andre Brown at #129 was pretty good, as he can both rush and catch. He can hit the hole and is consistent and versatile, and can also block. Gartrell Johnson was still on the board, and also liked him. He is versatile and a beast rusher.
I heard that we may have taken Rhett Bomar for value in a possible trade later on, but I'm not buying it. We took him at #151. I would have much rather taken Nate Davis at QB. Davis could have been the #3 and the eventual successor to Manning. Not to mention, he has a great arm and good awareness.
We then finished off by taking two CBs, DeAndre Wright at #200, and Stoney Woodson at #238. I like these picks. Both seem to have a lot of potential. But I think the Giants should have taken a safety with one of these picks, as it's a slightly bigger need.
...So it was a fun ride. Yet another very good Draft for us, and a nice one to watch. Jerry Reese is a Draft guru, and we had good opinions from the top down. And the Giants will definitely be Super Bowl contenders this upcoming season.
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Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:17 pm
Philadelphia.
I give them a solid A rating for their draft. When you look at the draft, you also have to take into account the trade they made with their draft picks of this year. Philly used a 1st that was given to them in a trade last year from Carolina to get what most players, coaches and analysts consider the best ALL-Pro LT in the game today in Jason Peters. They then went and traded 2 5th rounders to pick up a successful and effective CB in Ellis Hobbs. Hobbs a 4 year starter for the Patriots, was traded to Philly during the draft. He brings decent, close to Pro-Bowl impact just like Sheldon Brown. He also knows Safety Positions as well as a very effective Return man in both Kick and Punt. He has 1 KR in each of the last 4 seasons if I had heard the announcers correct.
Then in the first round, Philly for the 3rd straight year traded in the first round. Instead of back, they traded up to get J. Maclin. This WR was considered to be the second best WR in the draft behind Crabtree and was picked to go in the top ten by almost if not EVERY mock draft out there. He fell all the way to 19 where Philly must have thought was too good to pass up. Then in the second round they picked up LeSean McCoy who was considered by many to be of first round talent and a top 5 RB coming out of the draft. McCoy broke the two season TD record (34) previously set by former Pitt star and Current ALL-PRO WR Larry Fitzgerald. In addition to getting a RB who is able to pound the ball effectively, Philly gets a RB who know how to catch the ball and is considered to have some of the best receiving hands out of all the RB's in the draft.
Then after moving around in the 3rd round getting two extra 5th round picks, which they used to get Ellis Hobbs, they pick up TE C. Ingram. He was looking to go in this years 1st round until a ACL injury blew that for him. He is talked about that if his injury is fully healed, he may be one of the best TE's to come out of this draft. Now while he is not a B. Pettigrew, he is a better reciever than Pettigrew and runs faster. He is not afraid to go down the field and take a hit or to block down field.
Philly then traded for some project players who may or may not be able to make it in the league, but all who really do have talent and a real possibility to find a home somewhere if not in Philly.
So like I said, overall I gave Philly a solid A rating. They came out and really added players to the positions needed and then some. Plus they added picks in a few rounds next year thanks to some creative maneuvering on part of A. Reid and the Philly FO/War Room staff.
I look forward to your thoughts on Philly's draft and what your assesment of your teams.
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Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:57 pm
On Day 1 I think the 49ers got a B+/A- They needed to look to the future at WR since Issac Bruce is most likely in the last year of his career, and to have Crabtree fall to #10 is more of a luck thing than a great pick move. With a year under the wing of a great veteran in Bruce will help Crabtree prepare and get ready for the NFL.
As for trading their second and fourth round draft picks away? Questionable since we have quite a few defensive positions in dire need to be filled, but keeping Salary cap in mind they might have made the right choice. That and getting the Panthers #1 pick in 2010 could be a blessing, we could use it to snatch two first round prospects, or trade one of them away for compensation that may or may not help us.
As for day 2, not as good, but I give them a solid C. They filled positions in need to be filled, but not the way I thought. Getting Coffee at RB in the third round was questionable. Though the 49ers were looking for another RB to compliment Gore in a double back system, I thought the 49ers needs at DE, OLB, and S were more important concerns.
And taking Scott McKillop in the 5th round, no doubt he's a good ILB, but the 49ers already have one of the best ILB core in the league with Willis and Spikes. I know there's not much depth behind them, but San Francisco still lacks a great outside Linebacker presence. Maybe McKillop can convert and play OLB as well as ILB, I'm not sure.
Picking up Nate Davis is also a questionable call. The kid has potential no doubts there, but I don't see him having any more potential to start than Hill or Smith. He may one day develop into a nice starter, but developing Davis won't happen over night. And picking him before picking up a Pass Rusher on the D line and a Safety to potentially replace lack luster Roman, might not have been the smart thing to do.
Overall, I give San Francisco a B- Though most of their needs were filled, only one, Crabtree, really has the potential to start next season. Everyone else might make it on the squad as special team specialists and back ups and might be able to work their way up to starter one day, but I doubt anyone else but Crabtree can step in as a potential starter for next season.
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:58 pm
Japanese_Green_Tea On Day 1 I think the 49ers got a B+/A- They needed to look to the future at WR since Issac Bruce is most likely in the last year of his career, and to have Crabtree fall to #10 is more of a luck thing than a great pick move. With a year under the wing of a great veteran in Bruce will help Crabtree prepare and get ready for the NFL.
As for trading their second and fourth round draft picks away? Questionable since we have quite a few defensive positions in dire need to be filled, but keeping Salary cap in mind they might have made the right choice. That and getting the Panthers #1 pick in 2010 could be a blessing, we could use it to snatch two first round prospects, or trade one of them away for compensation that may or may not help us.
As for day 2, not as good, but I give them a solid C. They filled positions in need to be filled, but not the way I thought. Getting Coffee at RB in the third round was questionable. Though the 49ers were looking for another RB to compliment Gore in a double back system, I thought the 49ers needs at DE, OLB, and S were more important concerns.
And taking Scott McKillop in the 5th round, no doubt he's a good ILB, but the 49ers already have one of the best ILB core in the league with Willis and Spikes. I know there's not much depth behind them, but San Francisco still lacks a great outside Linebacker presence. Maybe McKillop can convert and play OLB as well as ILB, I'm not sure.
Picking up Nate Davis is also a questionable call. The kid has potential no doubts there, but I don't see him having any more potential to start than Hill or Smith. He may one day develop into a nice starter, but developing Davis won't happen over night. And picking him before picking up a Pass Rusher on the D line and a Safety to potentially replace lack luster Roman, might not have been the smart thing to do.
Overall, I give San Francisco a B- Though most of their needs were filled, only one, Crabtree, really has the potential to start next season. Everyone else might make it on the squad as special team specialists and back ups and might be able to work their way up to starter one day, but I doubt anyone else but Crabtree can step in as a potential starter for next season. I'm surprised at the Raiders lol rofl
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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 5:38 pm
Any thought on the Panthers draft? I would have to give them an B+. I still thought Panthers did better last year's Draft.
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Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 9:01 am
Itachi-Uchiha-Sama00 Any thought on the Panthers draft? I would have to give them an B+. I still thought Panthers did better last year's Draft. They had a decent draft this year. But I personally think that they had a better draft next year. They did not make a mistake of trading their first rounder for this year. They got Jeff Otah who looks like he will be a nice anchor their on their O-Line. Then they had decent overall draft last year. This year, they traded their next year's 1st and then only had a decent draft this year. They found maybe a possible replacement for Peppers this year, but it is still suspect with what they are gonna do with Peppers. If he signs his FT, he will only be franchised once and then cannont be franchised again if I remember correctly. Let me know if I am wrong on that one. But other than that, they really did not do that well. They only got some backups throughout this draft and not people who are going to be starters.
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 11:25 am
Itachi-Uchiha-Sama00 Any thought on the Panthers draft? I would have to give them an B+. I still thought Panthers did better last year's Draft. A B+? Are you kidding me? The Panthers had no first round picks this year, and traded away their first rounder for next year for a second rounder.
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 3:07 pm
Dude-LAP Itachi-Uchiha-Sama00 Any thought on the Panthers draft? I would have to give them an B+. I still thought Panthers did better last year's Draft. A B+? Are you kidding me? The Panthers had no first round picks this year, and traded away their first rounder for next year for a second rounder. Go figure though. A fan who does not take everything into consideration.
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 8:49 am
Well I aint that good on Analyzing a Draft good.
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 9:58 am
Itachi-Uchiha-Sama00 Well I aint that good on Analyzing a Draft good. You have to take into account the number of picks they had. THen you have to take into account the positions needed that they filled with their draft pics. Then you have to look at the pics they traded for players. You cannot take into account pics they traded for next year until those pics are taken. If you ahve any other questions, feel free to ask. I can help you with that or a few others can as well
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 10:15 am
So if you don't have that much draft picks than your not going to do well in a draft?
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 10:52 am
Itachi-Uchiha-Sama00 So if you don't have that much draft picks than your not going to do well in a draft? no, you did not read into what i was trying to explain. you may have only 2 picks the entire draft, but it is what you do with those pics that shows how well you did. look at philly, they picked up mccoy instead of someone graded much higher than him in the first round. that is just an example. detriot had many picks and did nothing except get a te and qb and a bunch of camp bodies that most likely wont make the roster.
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 1:16 pm
Oh. So it depends on mainly who you pick?
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 3:13 pm
you cant fairly grade a draft right now. the experts say it takes 3 years to fully tell if a player is a steal or bust
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