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Alright, I've only made maybe one or two posts here, but I suppose I should introduce myself before I go on. My name is Ronald, and I take a pro-life approach based on responsibility, and religion, although a lot of you have already debated on this topic in the areas I'm about to talk about, here is where I present my stance on abortion.

First off, for the Most part I am pro-life, I am not 100% pro-life, and I believe that abortion should not be completely outlawed, but restricted. I feel that unrestricted abortion is an escape from responsibility from actions. And I will explain the circumstances first, of what I consider a good cause for abortion.

I feel there are only three good reasons for an abortion:

1. In the case of Rape.

2. In the instance the baby or fetus as pro-choice supporters call it, causes harm to the mother.

3. Cases where there is an abnormality within the fetus/baby development within the womb of the mother.

Only in those cases will I ever feel that abortion is justified, in all other cases no matter which trimester, I feel it is not justified. Even so, by restriction, I believe that the woman should be charged with a misdemeanor if she did not have any of those three reasons for the abortion. This is because I feel that having an abortion without those three instances, even with the use of contraceptives is grounds for trying to escape responsibility.

My first reason for justification is that sex is not a physiological need for an individual. We do not need sex in order to continue living our lives, we only need it to start a new life and continue existence. I know, I'm sounding like one of those recreational stances right now, but I have a reason, unless one is sterilized, there will always be that risk a woman might be impregnated, with or without the use of contraceptives and birth control. But with sex, like everything else you do in life, when you take an action, you accept the responsibility and dangers along with it.

It's like an example I heard about getting into the car and using a seat belt, it doesn't matter, the seat belt can represent the contraceptives, and the crash can be representative of the impregnation... but the fact that you got into the car means that you accepted full responsibility for the risks as you accepted not only the driver of the car, but the drivers all around you.

Every little thing you do, has a risk, and you are just accepting the responsibility of what happens. Just as in sex, it is not needed for survival, but by performing the action, one is accepting responsibility for all consequences. By having sex, even with protection, one is always running the risk, and therefore must accept it. It doesn't matter if one is married, single, widowed, or in any relationship status, the fact is, if you take the risk, you SHOULD be responsible for the results.

For this sole reason, I take my stance for the most part, as a Pro-Lifer. Because I do in fact feel that sex is a choice, and by taking the choice, you should accept the responsibility.

My stance, please feel free to comment, criticize or do whatever you do best, but attack my argument for my stance, and not me.

Converted to what?

And I have a feeling you just voted no without even taking into consideration my stance.

I am probably 60% pro-life, and 40% pro-choice. I feel that women should have the choice but should be charged with a misdemeanor if she chooses to, but not a simple misdemeanor, but one that actually has serious charges.

I don't think I can really be converted because I have been thinking about the whole thing from a logistic stand point. I believe Abortion is Murder, however I also believe that if someone is raped, they don't deserve to have to take up that responsibility, and it should be the woman's choice. Although I hope she doesn't abort, I feel it's only fair that way, that she has a choice without having to be punished for being raped.

If she has consensual sex and even with contraceptives manages to get pregnant, she should be charged with murder if she wants to abort. It's just how I feel.

You know what? I'm a pro lifer. I'm also a pro choicer. What I am not is an anti-abortioner, which is what a great many people using the term are.

I used to be anti abortion, until I realized that no matter how much logic is on either side, it all boils down to invasion of privacy and whether a person is worried about what other people do. If the fact that somewhere, someone could be getting an abortion as I type--someone that you don't even know and will never know--is of no consequence to you, you have no problem with people having privacy. If this fact disturbs you for any reason, you are for invasion of privacy and I have a big problem with that.

If murder were committed in privacy, or in the case of an abusive boyfriend would you step in or just sit back and let it happen? I guess we could call it fetal abuse, and that just brings the topic of whether the fetus is a living thing... in my book it is, and abortion of the being with the potential to become a human is murder.

I am sorry to say, but if it was custom for everyone to just let people murder one another in private, I would break that rule of privacy.

Privacy of personal activities that do not affect the health or well being of people that are independent autonomous beings are the ones that are none of your business. If I had children and spanked them lightly for disciplinary reasons, and you thought this was a gross misconduct of human rights and immoral, you still wouldn't have the right to come in my house and demand that I stop spanking my children because you don't know me or my circumstances. Neither do you have the right to come into my life and tell me that because you personally do not like abortion that I can never have one, because you don't know me or my circumstances, and my aborting this proto-person does not affect your life in any way.

In this case the well being of the fetus, which I consider human and should have the right to life a murder by definition of religion. My opinion, anyone can read or ignore, your choice.

Incorrect. Sex isn't irresponsible when it is done responsibly. That sounds a little redundant, but let me explain.

I am on birth control pills. I take them every day at 7:30, consistently. I am responsible when I have sex. However, what if the pills themselves ******** up? What if they don't work? Should I be punished for having responsible sex? Especially since my male partner won't have to go through any punishment at all?

Should being forced to give birth be a punishment? Should women be the only ones punished when they have sex and accidently get pregnant?

Except that I do not believe that a fetus is a person. It cannot feel, think, or feel pain. It has no emotions or history. To me, that is what makes a person: sentience and emotion.

There is no clear-cut answer on abortion; it's all just opinion. That's why we need to compromise. You've read my plan.

How about doing the mature thing and make peace and compromise with those you disagree with? I've made the first step. I've given in a bit of what I believe. Why don't you do the same?

You'll never be forced to have an abortion, your girlfriend will never be forced to have an abortion, and you'll never have to give birth to an unwanted child. Let women make their own choices.