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I've heard Convoke was the worst out of the three, and Transumute was the best. Tokens have never really been a way to win, so Selesnya really sounds like it sucks. But really, can you really make a nice token deck? And is Convoke really that bad?

convoke is weak. the convoke mechnanic should have had more work put into it. But there could be cards in the new next 2 sets that could help it out. we will have to wait until then.

Yeah, that's pretty much how it was set up. However, I wouldn't be surprised if somewhere in there they threw in a few more cards for the previous guilds.(Let's pretend there are 4 quarters in a set, and each guild takes up a quarter. The 1st set has enough guild to use it all up, while in the second and third there will be 3/4 used for guilds. Empty space to be filled.)

However, I would say the mechanics go (from best to worst) in the following order:
- Transmute
- Dredge
- Convoke
- Radiance

Despite what people have been saying, I've seen Token/Convoke decks that absolutely rape everything they meet. Sweepers? Don't make me laugh. Your opponent almost ALWAYS has a way to power up creatures to make most of them live. Biggest and baddest of them all is Coat of Arms. When they're pumping out 1 or 2 tokens a turn, pretty soon you're dealing with ten 10/10 saproling tokens. Yowza.

And Dredge is great. Most people think "I simply couldn't lose my cards!" when losing them is (in a GOOD dredge deck) exactly what you want to do. You can annoy the hell out of your opponent as well when you refuse to draw cards to dredge back old threats (ie. Golgari Grave-Troll)

I have to check into the whole "mill yourself to death" thing. I mean, dredge says "If you would draw, instead place X cards in your graveyard." The thing, is, you only die IF you try to draw a card and can't. Look at it this way for a moment:

- Player 1 has 1 card left in library
- Player 1 draws a card
- Player 1 has no cards left in library
- Player 1 would draw a card, but insteads places 2 cards from deck in graveyard (but had no cards to lose)
- Player 1 gets a card back to his/her hand

Now, the thing is, you NEVER try to draw a card, so would you die? That's the big question. You can only die when you draw a card, however, Dredge stops you from ever drawing a card, so would the player die, or just keep laughing all the way to the anti-mill bank. Weird...

Beacon of Creation.

Transmute. (discard one card and search for another) no negative because black and blue can easliy use the graveyard to their advantage. or even bring it back.
Score 7/10 (not bad, not incredibly amazing though)

Radiance. depends on the color ratio your using. if it's mostly one color it could be used effectively. other then that though it's not a very outstanding ability.
Score 4/10 (far too specific on color, not enough to really utilize in a fun deck, only a real tournament player should use this)

Dredge. Again black is bing on using the graveyard. and green is big on big stuff right? you can try to use it and earn a quick graveyard and use your black if you see a card you want.
Score 6/10 (very good. but it's like drawing twice, paying some mana and discarding one of them. but you can search for one....not great but its got lots of use.)

Convoke......wow......what to say about this......hmmm......it's.....really for a token deck i guess.....but then what wil you play? i gotta say this has the least amout of development, jsut not enough here to use.
Score 4/10 (umm.....tokens....and then expensive convoke cards...but more convoke cards aren't expensive enough. maybe compared to what the card can actually do, but thats it)

Final score, Transmute and Dredge are probably the best of the four so far.

Actually, I like Selesnya as of now... but that's only because I have Doubling Season and 4 copies of Scatter the Seeds.

That's 12 tokens, and not to mention 2 for each time Guildmage hits.

Kickass strategy : Token Army, Veteran Armor, Scion of the Wild, Rally the Righteous.

Veteran Armorer prevents the sweeps of 1 damage to your tokens, Scion of the Wild gets +1/+1 for each token and creature you have, Rally the Righteous is selfexplanitory...

Oh, Hour of Reckoning... that card is *gargle* why convoke is sometimes worth it.

I wonder what new menchanic their gonna have out in the new set of ravinca. I say tranusmuse is the best of all. but radicnce could need more work.