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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:51 am
According to this article here Craig Sherman says.... Wait for it.... That WoW is "not a success" Save us all. Have mercy on us. Gaia is now on the WoW laughing stock list. EDIT: the article was from a year ago, but hmmm....why has no one seen it/found out about it?
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:30 am
kikirin~sakyomi According to this article here Craig Sherman says.... Wait for it.... That WoW is "not a success" Save us all. Have mercy on us. Gaia is now on the WoW laughing stock list. EDIT: the article was from a year ago, but hmmm....why has no one seen it/found out about it? Wow. Just... wow. What an idiot. World of Warcraft is not a success because it only has 10 million players? Um... isn't that more than Gaia has? (Especially since, however many registered accounts Gaia has, a good chunk are either mules (thus not unique users) or inactive (WoW can tell how many users are active, but I doubt Gaia can).) (I'd be surprised if number of active users was even half the number of registered accounts.) If WoW isn't a success, what does that make Gaia? (And wouldn't the blame for that (at least some of it) fall on... oh, I don't know... the CEO?) Moron.
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:17 pm
I remembered this being discussed in the GCD. I think somewhere he went into more detail but that thread is probably 20 feet deep in that forum. Personally, I feel like the statement was poor choice.
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:49 pm
And kids, today's lesson is learning when to keep your damn fool mouth shut.
*headdesk* What an idiot.
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:56 pm
Oh, I love that article!
He admitted that it was a stupid thing to say in an interview with Snap!, I think. And I believe he explained in more detail what he meant, but I don't remember.
Either way, I don't see how someone can think that WoW is a failure in any way.
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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:26 am
 
WoW ISNT a success. If only because now theres lots of unpublicised MMO's out there that came out in a similar fashion to WoW but actually better. Also probably because you can download WoW for free online, LEGALLY, and then play private servers, though thats illegal, doesnt matter really.
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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 7:04 am
Philosophical Waterfowl WoW ISNT a success. If only because now theres lots of unpublicised MMO's out there that came out in a similar fashion to WoW but actually better. Also probably because you can download WoW for free online, LEGALLY, and then play private servers, though thats illegal, doesnt matter really.
I'm not following your logic here. (Elaborate plz???? razz ) WoW isn't a success because there are other MMOs? So what? According to Wikipedia (not always the most reliable source, but it tracks with other information), WoW has 62% of the MMO market. If having that huge a percentage of the market doesn't qualify one as a success, what does? (Of course, that other games may be "better" is an entirely subjective argument; I'm going to guess that most of the WoW subscribers would disagree with that assessment.) And people can illegally play WoW free? Again, so what? You can illegally download the latest Hollywood blockbuster for free, but if it takes in $400 billion in legal ticket sales, it's still going to be considered a success. (And with well over 10 million paying subscribers, WoW is bringing in a ton of money for Blizzard.) Really, with how huge WoW is, I don't see how anyone can argue that it's not a success.
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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:40 am
*headdesk* He's damn lucky that didn't get out so much. See folks, this is why you keep your mouth shut if you've got something bad to say. So you don't wind up saying stupid things like that. Remember to listen to your parents folks. rofl
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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 5:58 pm
OTL- at first, I didn't like the concept of a paid membership to Wow because I didn't think it was worth my money. But when I saw a couple of my friends show it to me, I have to say, unlike Gaia in certain ways, it delivers on what it promises and more. I believe Blizzard is also responsible for creating Halo (?) but I digress.
I am now saving up to get a legal copy of Wow and make an account. *laughs* I have no life...and someone tried to peddle off to me "WoW crack" which was a 30 day trial disk. ><
Philosophical Waterfowl- You can play free, but private servers aren't as good as the actual ones and you can get caught on them. Meh. I've never really seen any benefits in playing on private servers because the content and events on the actual ones are updated more often. That's just what I've heard and seen though-I have yet to find a really good private server.
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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 6:36 pm
kikirin~sakyomi OTL- at first, I didn't like the concept of a paid membership to Wow because I didn't think it was worth my money. But when I saw a couple of my friends show it to me, I have to say, unlike Gaia in certain ways, it delivers on what it promises and more. I believe Blizzard is also responsible for creating Halo (?) but I digress. Blizzard didn't create Halo; it was developed by Bungie as a division of Microsoft. (Not that it really matters.) To be honest, I wasn't too crazy about the idea of a paid subscription to WoW, either, mostly because I was afraid I'd wind up paying for a subscription to a game I didn't play often enough to justify the expense. That's why the only MMO I really play (except for occasionally zOMG, but that one still needs some work) is Guild Wars. *Shrug*
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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 6:21 pm
O.T.L. Philosophical Waterfowl WoW ISNT a success. If only because now theres lots of unpublicised MMO's out there that came out in a similar fashion to WoW but actually better. Also probably because you can download WoW for free online, LEGALLY, and then play private servers, though thats illegal, doesnt matter really.
I'm not following your logic here. (Elaborate plz???? razz ) WoW isn't a success because there are other MMOs? So what? According to Wikipedia (not always the most reliable source, but it tracks with other information), WoW has 62% of the MMO market. If having that huge a percentage of the market doesn't qualify one as a success, what does? (Of course, that other games may be "better" is an entirely subjective argument; I'm going to guess that most of the WoW subscribers would disagree with that assessment.) And people can illegally play WoW free? Again, so what? You can illegally download the latest Hollywood blockbuster for free, but if it takes in $400 billion in legal ticket sales, it's still going to be considered a success. (And with well over 10 million paying subscribers, WoW is bringing in a ton of money for Blizzard.) Really, with how huge WoW is, I don't see how anyone can argue that it's not a success. You didn't get my point at all. So maybe ill explain it in a more straightforward way. WoW isnt a success BECAUSE: 1) It is INFERIOR to other MMOs that came out in a fashion "similar to WoW", and only got so far because it was made more popular by the face that its a BLIZZARD product. 2) Its simple, easy, and LEGAL to get a free copy of ALL of WoW's software. 3) Its simple, easy, and often more fulfilling, to join an ILLEGAL, FREE, and more "customized" version of WoW. 4) Because in MY OPINION WoW isnt a success. MY opinion, not YOURS, so if I feel its not a success, then you don't have to, but I will anyway.
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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:57 am
WoW being a success isn't a matter of opinion, though. By ANY objective standard, it's a HUGE success. It has a majority (not a plurality; a MAJORITY) of the MMO market. It's bringing in a boatload of money for Blizzard every month. In order to feel that WoW isn't a success, one has to ignore the indisputable FACTS.
Is WoW inferior to other MMOs? I don't know; I've never played WoW. But that's completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand; it's a completely subjective argument, and the fact is, quality of product does not relate to the success of said product. Many is the product that has been outsold by an inferior competitor (even if you only look at cases where there is a more obvious objective basis for calling one product superior to the others). Whatever the level of quality of WoW, and for whatever reason it's doing as much business as it is, the fact remains: it still has a majority of the MMO market and a huge paying subscriber base. It IS a success.
As for points 2 & 3... I really have no idea what point you're trying to make there, really. They're not relevant to the facts of WoW's success. At best, it could be argued that they could be selling more copies of/subscriptions to WoW, but name me a product that couldn't sell more. Doesn't mean they're not a success.
If you want to argue that WoW isn't a success, you're going to have to do something to argue against the facts of WoW's market share and subscriber base, and explain how those huge numbers are not indicative of success. You can't just say "I don't think it's a success", because those facts prove it is; it simply is NOT a matter of opinion. Sorry, but it's true.
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Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:50 am
Personally, I HATE WoW, with the red hot intensity of a thousand suns.
But, it IS sucessfull. What on earth is this doofus ON?
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