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brenilli

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 5:35 pm


Out of curiosity:

What do you all think about these sub categories of vegetarianism? Should they really call themselves vegetarians? Are you a vegetarian? If so why? or why not? Has PETA or other animal activist groups influenced your decision? What do you think about the bird flu or mad cow disease?

3nodding
PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:03 pm


I don't like the sub-categories; I feel that if you're vegetarian, you don't eat meat, period. Like...the lacto-ovo veg. people, that makes sense to me, but the pollo veg.? I don't get that, vegetarian means consuming vegetables, right? I'm trying to be vegan...Everytime I tell people that I'm veg, they assume that I eat chicken.

As far as PETA...I agree with some of the things they preach, but not all. Like...How they believe all animals should be free and you shouldn't keep pets and things like that. Some animals, I think, are to be pets. Some animals can't support themselves, defend themselves - without a mother or master. They support a good cause, but they've gone just a little crazy with it.

I don't know much about the Bird Flu thus far, but the Mad Cow disease...That could easily be avoided if farmers, etc. were more responsible or caring, which is a bit of an oxymoron, isn't it? Caring butcher...Hm.

[/ramble]

What are your views?

HangingHeathen


shizznazzled
Captain

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:51 am


i'm not a vegetarian but i tried it out for a while once. i was more influenced to do it for health and stuff rather than animal rights. i'm all for it though. i think it's a great idea.

but i had no clue about those categories. beef vegetarian?? does that mean they eat no meat except beef or all meat except beef? and in either case how is that vegetarianism??
PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:38 pm


HangingHeathen
I don't like the sub-categories; I feel that if you're vegetarian, you don't eat meat, period. Like...the lacto-ovo veg. people, that makes sense to me, but the pollo veg.? I don't get that, vegetarian means consuming vegetables, right? I'm trying to be vegan...Everytime I tell people that I'm veg, they assume that I eat chicken.

As far as PETA...I agree with some of the things they preach, but not all. Like...How they believe all animals should be free and you shouldn't keep pets and things like that. Some animals, I think, are to be pets. Some animals can't support themselves, defend themselves - without a mother or master. They support a good cause, but they've gone just a little crazy with it.

I don't know much about the Bird Flu thus far, but the Mad Cow disease...That could easily be avoided if farmers, etc. were more responsible or caring, which is a bit of an oxymoron, isn't it? Caring butcher...Hm.

[/ramble]

What are your views?


I agree with you about the sub categories, i myself don't eat red meat but i don't call myself a vegetarian. I absoluetly cannot do without chik-fil-a. Being vegan is not as tough as it used to be because of the fact that there are so many more products easily available now (yay); and it's really healthy, you'll have a really strong immune system. PETA is extreme, that's why companies and the government don't take them so seriously. If they were more practical and realistic, i think they'd be more effective. Animals are awesome, but if all animals were to be kept alive in bad conditions(etc...) they would outnumber the human race by millions! Caring butcher! hehe; ever seen the Wallbangers slogan? In case you haven't: the butcher, the baker, the burger maker...icky makes me sick! that's a bad image.

but at least they have mozzerella sticks:] heart

brenilli


Zero Fail

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:52 pm


I hate PETA...they're a bunch of hypocrites

I myself am currently a meat eatter, but I've been trying to do veggie for awhile, little in the way of self control...

my reason behind being veggie is not because the animals are killed inhumanely or whatever...my reason is that everything is super sized frankenstein massive chickens, turkeys, and meat that has this that and the other thing in it...if there were a local organic shop or something like that around, I would definatly by that, because the hormones they inject are probably terrible for you...

But PETA...they're just....blah, I don't agree with some of the stuff they do, and some of their policies...
PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:19 am


shizznazzled
i'm not a vegetarian but i tried it out for a while once. i was more influenced to do it for health and stuff rather than animal rights. i'm all for it though. i think it's a great idea.

but i had no clue about those categories. beef vegetarian?? does that mean they eat no meat except beef or all meat except beef? and in either case how is that vegetarianism??


yeah beef vegetarians only eat beef and veggies. I don't know how that would be considered vegetarian since the word vegetarian means veggies only.

brenilli


stfu D8

PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:18 am


i don't understand how anybody can denounce the murder of some creatures and promote the killing of others. this goes for people who don't eat beef but eat chicken, as well as people who are avid human rights activists. our society has advanced to the point where we no longer need to perpetuate "natural hierarchy", ie the food chain, if we don't have to. why bother causing others pain when you can eat organisms whose purpose is to be eaten? (ie, fruits and veggies)

but yeah, eating seafood and eating chicken do not make you a vegeterian. i'm alright with freegans, though.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 7:45 pm


Capn Smasher
i don't understand how anybody can denounce the murder of some creatures and promote the killing of others. this goes for people who don't eat beef but eat chicken, as well as people who are avid human rights activists. our society has advanced to the point where we no longer need to perpetuate "natural hierarchy", ie the food chain, if we don't have to. why bother causing others pain when you can eat organisms whose purpose is to be eaten? (ie, fruits and veggies)

but yeah, eating seafood and eating chicken do not make you a vegeterian. i'm alright with freegans, though.


fruits and veggies all the way!

what are freegans?

brenilli


Zero Fail

PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:05 pm


brenilli
Capn Smasher
i don't understand how anybody can denounce the murder of some creatures and promote the killing of others. this goes for people who don't eat beef but eat chicken, as well as people who are avid human rights activists. our society has advanced to the point where we no longer need to perpetuate "natural hierarchy", ie the food chain, if we don't have to. why bother causing others pain when you can eat organisms whose purpose is to be eaten? (ie, fruits and veggies)

but yeah, eating seafood and eating chicken do not make you a vegeterian. i'm alright with freegans, though.


fruits and veggies all the way!

what are freegans?

ah...freegans!!! I loves em! freegan means that you don't eat anything animal related ...no milk, no eggs, no aminals, but if the food is free you can eat it, like if you go over somebody's house and they're cooking fish or something non-vegan. Also if they dumpster dive and find something good...I've done this before, found some nice munchkins, turned out to be very yummy, and was enough to feed a couple people till they were more than full.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:04 pm


nygeel13
brenilli
Capn Smasher
i don't understand how anybody can denounce the murder of some creatures and promote the killing of others. this goes for people who don't eat beef but eat chicken, as well as people who are avid human rights activists. our society has advanced to the point where we no longer need to perpetuate "natural hierarchy", ie the food chain, if we don't have to. why bother causing others pain when you can eat organisms whose purpose is to be eaten? (ie, fruits and veggies)

but yeah, eating seafood and eating chicken do not make you a vegeterian. i'm alright with freegans, though.


fruits and veggies all the way!

what are freegans?

ah...freegans!!! I loves em! freegan means that you don't eat anything animal related ...no milk, no eggs, no aminals, but if the food is free you can eat it, like if you go over somebody's house and they're cooking fish or something non-vegan. Also if they dumpster dive and find something good...I've done this before, found some nice munchkins, turned out to be very yummy, and was enough to feed a couple people till they were more than full.


so are freegans vegans? vegans don't eat anything animal related either. is it food you don't pay for and stuff like that?

p.s. are you a freegan?

brenilli


stfu D8

PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:59 am


pretty much freegans are vegan if they are paying money for food, but if it's free and would otherwise go to waste, then they'll eat meat. this includes somebody preparing a non-veg meal, dumpster diving, and roadkill. it's a play on the word vegan. free + vegan = freegan, get it?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:44 pm


i tried to be vegetarian, only problem that my dad always yell at me when im not eating enough meat or i just can't restist meat. however most of my family said ill become a vegetarian one day.

beauty_of_masquerade


shadowycat

PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:02 pm


I think that all these sub categories of vegetarianism are ridiculous, and shouldn't really be lumped in with vegetarianism in the first place. If you are a vegetarian then you don't eat meat period, and that includes fish as meat. If you chose to eat only one type of animal, then you have lost the right to call yourself a vegetarian.

I, myself, am not a vegetarian and nor do I plan to become one. I enjoy eating meat and animal products. I believe the key to eating healthy is to find the right mixture of vegetables, fruit, meat, and everything else on the food pyramid. Humans are naturally omnivours and I think thats how we should remain. Though I do admit to have been tempted to become a vegetarian simply because of the way the animals are treated before they are slaughtered. It is appalling and the meat industry needs to go through major changes. I mean we are eating them, shouldn't we treat what is providing us with nurishment with a little respect and kindness? Even if you don't give a s**t about the animals, they just taste better when they aren't rasied in cages and fed other animals. If only that type of meat wasn't so expensive.

I respect PETA and their dedication to the cause of animal rights, but they ain't gonna turn me into a vegetarian anytime soon.

The bird flu and mad cow disease scare me. Fully and completly. They're just another exapmle of how our current farming conditions are gonna come up and bite us in the a**. Human stupidity will kill us all. I mean, who came up with the bright idea of feeding cows, bits of other cows? So very wrong! How could you see that getting us anywhere good? A four year old could pick out the flaws there.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:07 pm


Actually, if infected bird meat is properly prepared, you cannot catch the flu from it. It's caught through exposure to live birds, their feces, or their raw meat and juices. FYI! No worries there.

And ******** PETA, I doubt they've successfully ever "converted" anybody with half of a brain.

stfu D8


Zero Fail

PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:19 pm


Capn Smasher
Actually, if infected bird meat is properly prepared, you cannot catch the flu from it. It's caught through exposure to live birds, their feces, or their raw meat and juices. FYI! No worries there.

And ******** PETA, I doubt they've successfully ever "converted" anybody with half of a brain.

true with the PETA...and also they make their own videos killing animals....hypocrites if ya ask me
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