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You spot an animal, known as the Akshamala. You...
  ...kick it.
  ...realized it was just a hunk of wood.
  ...watch it get hit by a truck. Ewww. It's guts are everywhere. What a mess!
  ...take it home. Maybe your parents will let you keep it.
  ...stare at it for a while, then announce, "You're one of THEM!" and run away.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 1:53 pm


As a lurker it's scary for me to post a topic, but I feel I should introduce myself. My name is Akshamala, obviously. But you guys may call me Amo, Ams, Ame, Amser, Amseroni or Aimee Beth (my real name is Aimee by the way). I'm a 16-year old girl living in an old farm house in the middle of nowhere (seriously). My whole family is pro-life, and so am I. Just to warn you I might be posting a lot of topics, shy that I am. But I hope you might find them interesting as I do.

To start, here is an entry made by a friend in deadjournal.com. I enjoyed reading it:


columbina
"I am anti-abortion.

Why? Because I am pro-choice. (mmm tastey food for thought)

There is one single moral I have (that I live by) which births all other morals as a chain reaction.
It is as follows:

----

Everyone is allowed to have a choice, so long as it does not inhibit someone else's ability to choose.

----


(note that here on in, a choice that does not meet the above criteria is from here on in referred to as a "Bad Choice")

Now, you may say, "What if I choose to rape that chick? Will you stop ME from choosing?"
Yes. There are two categories of people, let's say. In any given situation where action can be taken, there is the agressor, and the passivist.

If nobody makes any move, then the situation remains neutral, yes? Albeit boring, most likely (hehe).. but neutral. I hope you are with me on this, it gets complicated soon..

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It's easiest to digest in an example:
Janie exists. Bob exists.

Janie and Bob get into a fight, Janie gets mad, and decides she wants to knife Bob.

Now, the situation was neutral as far as choices went, up until this point. They could have both chosen to walk away, to choose to live happily apart. By choosing to knife Bob, Janie would have eliminated Bob's ability to make ANY choices in the future whatsoever. Hence, Janie's choice to shiv Bob is indeed a Bad Choice.

---

With this in mind, let's take a look at abortion:

Fred and I choose to have sex. We both chose it. Cool. Oops, I get pregnant! Now, can I choose to terminate the child within me? It's my body too!...right?
NO. If I did, that would be infringing on the tiny person's right to choose.
"but it might live a bad life in this crazy society!" says you.
"Then baby can choose to end his own life, if it comes down to that..." says I.
"That's heartless!!!!"
"Is it better to kill the kid yourself, just to be on the safe side?"
.... i believe i've made my point there.



"What if I got raped, and then impregnated?" says you.
Well, the agressor should not have eliminated your ability to choose (as the passivist), and that was a truly horrible Bad Choice. It will not improve the situation to become the next agressor and make another Bad Choice. (refer to the above argument for more details on why abortion is considered a Bad Choice.)

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I am perhaps rambling in tiredness now, but I've made my point.
Perhaps I am so darn pro-life, I've actually crossed the infinite boundary to a superpositive "pro choice."

BAMF! take that, friends!
Love, peace,
Laurie"


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Half the time "pro-choice" only means pro-the-choices-I-agree-with anyway, so we're ALL pro-choice!!

that's true ... heh.

i'm all for the choice not to murder anyone ...


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 5:25 pm


Hah, don't be afraid to post. xd Although, introductions would normally go in the introduction sticky-post, I don't think anyone's going to have too much of a problem with this post, since it makes a point.

I like the analogies, by the way.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 6:41 pm


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Hah, don't be afraid to post. xd Although, introductions would normally go in the introduction sticky-post, I don't think anyone's going to have too much of a problem with this post, since it makes a point.

I like the analogies, by the way.


I second that, don't be afraid to post. Ever.
PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 7:16 am


I remember when I said I was shy and hesitant to post xd

Welcome. And those are wonderful points.

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Akshamala

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 2:27 am


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I.Am
Hah, don't be afraid to post. xd Although, introductions would normally go in the introduction sticky-post, I don't think anyone's going to have too much of a problem with this post, since it makes a point.

I like the analogies, by the way.
I second that, don't be afraid to post. Ever.


I don't want to be, but it kind of turns out that way. gonk

lymelady
I remember when I said I was shy and hesitant to post xd

Welcome. And those are wonderful points.

Do you think I could post like you someday? redface wink

Thanks.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:54 am


ninja Little unknown fact about us n00bies. Lyme has difficulty postign the way we would liek to think she can. It takes her ahile to come up with some of the things she shows us. I believe thats what you told me, is it not, Lyme?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:24 am


xd That's true Pyro, although I don't think I'd call either of you a n00b. xp I always check and recheck posts before I post them. I usually use the preview button, and/or save the post in a .txt document, so that, if Gaia glitches, I don't lose the whole post.

For example, even this little post has had several "revisions" xd But that's mostly because I just woke up, and I'm not thinking in a straight line.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:08 pm


Haha, I'm sort of a lurker in the ED, I don't like to argue with 14 year olds who think they know everything, especially when the words of Zhou Yu state...

Zhou Yu
Never argue with a fool, they will bring you down to their level then beat you with experience

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 5:05 pm


I have difficulty articulating. I'm very bad at bringing my point across and I'm always sure that anything I type will be worthless. I am awful with debates because I get emotionally involved, and I'm rather timid by nature so everything ends up jumbled. Abortion is an issue I feel strongly on, though, and I feel comfortable here. Eventually I just sorta...settled in. It helps to have blind rage at 3 am. Hence the very disorganized and incoherent things that can come out of my fingers at times sweatdrop

Hehe, Gaia does eat things. I only use text editors for reference things, usually, like the terminology and fetal development thing. Though that's a good idea, Andy, I wouldn't lose so much then xd
PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:11 pm


lymelady
I have difficulty articulating. I'm very bad at bringing my point across and I'm always sure that anything I type will be worthless. I am awful with debates because I get emotionally involved, and I'm rather timid by nature so everything ends up jumbled. Abortion is an issue I feel strongly on, though, and I feel comfortable here. Eventually I just sorta...settled in. It helps to have blind rage at 3 am. Hence the very disorganized and incoherent things that can come out of my fingers at times sweatdrop

Hehe, Gaia does eat things. I only use text editors for reference things, usually, like the terminology and fetal development thing. Though that's a good idea, Andy, I wouldn't lose so much then xd
I've actually got a link to a notepad document right on my Taskbar-thing right next to the start button, and I use it for everything from phone-messages to homework lists. xd

I'm about the same as Kate with my posts; These days I rarely post anywhere outside of this guild, or threads of friends. sweatdrop And when I did post outside the guild, it was almost exclusively in abortion debates, where the same "blind rage" Kate mentions helps. xd

I tried to do RPs in the main forums, but I couldn't find one where I was satisfied that the other players were literate enough. sweatdrop I'm picky like that.

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Akshamala

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:39 pm


Dang. I was ready to write a long post, but now... words, fail me. gonk

It'll be better if I didn't come here so late at night when I have school early in the morning.

There are not enough hours in a day, I tell ya.
PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:53 pm


Akshamala
Dang. I was ready to write a long post, but now... words, fail me. gonk

It'll be better if I didn't come here so late at night when I have school early in the morning.

There are not enough hours in a day, I tell ya.
Indeed. What I would do with a few more hours in the day...

Oh wait, I know. I'd catch up on Naruto faster. xd Not really, though. Well kinda.

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Akshamala

PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:53 am


I.Am
Akshamala
Dang. I was ready to write a long post, but now... words, fail me. gonk

It'll be better if I didn't come here so late at night when I have school early in the morning.

There are not enough hours in a day, I tell ya.
Indeed. What I would do with a few more hours in the day...

Oh wait, I know. I'd catch up on Naruto faster. xd Not really, though. Well kinda.
I would probably try to catch up with this guild. Look at all these new threads and posts! gonk

Well, at least it's active, is it not? confused
PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:30 am


I was thinking the same exact thing, and feel the same exact way. No one should be able to say they will kill their child at all, much less say "It'll have a horrible life!"

Anyway, yeah, what they said. Never be afraid to post. The only place I'm afraid to post in Gaia is on the abortion thread in the ED, because I'm always attacked there, and my opinion is never respected. Which is why I've already requested to join the abortion debate guild, which has rules against personal attacks, etc.

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