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 Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 3:48 pm
My dad was telling me about hoe the only thing that doesn't change is the principle that there will always be change.
He said: "Once upon a time there was a very rich and famous king who wanted a true statement that would always be both relevant and true no mater what in any situation possible. Can you guess what it was?"
Me: "a equals a."
Him: "And this, too, shall pass."
BUT HE'S WRONG. IT'S WRONG.
I can think of several statements for which this doesn't apply.
1.) There is G-d.
This cannot be proven or disproven.
2.) a equals a.
a will always equal a. Even in situations when a=b, b=a by the reflexive mathematical property and therefore a will always equal a. It won't pass.
If you want to go farther, because the statement is invalid in all situations when a equals a, all situations that are, here are therefore infinite possible situations in which the statement is not correct.
3.) I exist / ______ exist(s).
Philisophically speaking, even when one person dies, they still exist in the past. In our memories, people still exist and always will.
The same goes for anything in existence.
4.) There is matter.
By the law of conservation of matter, matter cannot be created or destroyed. There is matter.
This, too, cannot ever possibly pass.
I told my dad all this. I love being accurate.
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Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:51 pm
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The Fabulous Prince Babel
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Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:54 pm
I'm an anti-realist.
What you said is wrong.
I perceive that a does not equal a.
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Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:26 pm
And 2+2=5. But that's basic stuff.
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darkphoenix1247 Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:51 pm
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Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 7:49 pm
Don't get me started. I'm on page 20 of the book I'm writing about why "a" does not equal "a".
We don't know if G-d exists, we don't know if people down the line will even have a concept of G-d. We believe that G-d exists, and that "a" is equal to "a". We believe it, but don't have any way to confirm this. Brain in a vat, five minute earth, etc are all things that throw a wrench in any argument that ANYTHING is absolute.
Nothing is absolute, not even change (eventually entropy will take its toll on the universe, and it will cease to change).
That said, why bother worrying about it? We each know what we believe to be true, and until something comes along to knock those beliefs out of the sky, we might as well just operate as though they're truth. Just keep an open mind and remember that you might be wrong about what you believe. We really all could be delusions of someone else, after all.
Edit: Oh yeah. My own booya moment. I got a kilt. I look good in my kilt. Booyah.
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Eloquent Conversationalist
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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:18 am
I am placing my BOOYAH moment in the Passover thread, since it's more relevant. However, I do think it deserves a BOOYAH.
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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:43 pm
Behatzlacha-S And 2+2=5. But that's basic stuff. 2+2 does equal 5. For large values of two. My math teacher has that shirt. xd And I'm glad you got over the spelling. Dis Domnu Edit: Oh yeah. My own booya moment. I got a kilt. I look good in my kilt. Booyah YES. So bring on the BOOYAH moments for this specific thread. And don;t go making specific new threads. Especially just to anger me because I just said that. Wait! surprised NOOOO!!!!
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The Fabulous Prince Babel
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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:04 pm
Prove to me math is real!
:U
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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:25 pm
Regardless of math, everything exists in some reality if in no other form purely within the context of the abstract thoughts to which they are contained. Thus a exists. Thus a equals. a equals a in all situations.
*Runs away and locks the door, hoping the risk of being off- topic will keep Babel away*
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The Fabulous Prince Babel
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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:26 pm
Lumanny Regardless of math, everything exists in some reality if in no other form purely within the context of the abstract thoughts to which they are contained. Thus a exists. Thus a equals. a equals a in all situations. *Runs away and locks the door, hoping the risk of being off- topic will keep Babel away* lol Stop being a realist and accept everything is an extent of your imagination.
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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:20 pm
But even then a=a within a!
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The Fabulous Prince Babel
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:45 am
Only if you believe in a.
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 1:12 pm
My own BOOYAH moment: I got my braces off yesterday! So I guess that it's really my orthodontist that deserves a BOOYAH, but whatever.
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 2:44 pm
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