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 Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:39 pm
Hear the music and despair…I think that there is an absence of good books from today's world. Case one: The Twilight series. For Christ's sake, how the hell did this get popular? Bella is a Mary Sue, Edward is a posessive ***** and most likely gay, all the characters are two dimensional, and the so-called 'plot' revolves around this obsession between Mary Sue and Gay Kid. The second book shows just how retarded the series is—seriously, going suicidal? The ********? Third book, ooh, miraculously forgiven, Bella suddenly seems more interested in sex than the people in the brothels. Oh no, evil vampire. Hey, let's get maried. Fourth book, despite warnings he could not have sex with her, he does. And abuses her. Then, Bella has an illogical child, born in a Xenomorphic fashion. I could go on, but I doubt I could spare to lose any more brain cells.
Case two: Jimmy P. That's right, boys and girls, the writer of the Maximum Ride series. Now, the first three books were fairly kickass. Now? It's almost as bad as Twilight, but the characters still have some reality about them. At least, until the newest 'book' comes out.
Case three: Well, I can't think of one right now.
So, what do you guys think? What books are wastes of paper, and why? And is modern literature on a spiral downwards, deep, deep into the ninth circle of hell, where it will freeze and eventually die for eternity?
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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:21 pm
I've never read the Twilight series, nor do I plan to, because I have little interest in vampire stories to begin with. However, I've heard more negative than positive things about it, both the story itself and the style of writing. From what I can gather, it's more a story about romance than it is about vampires. The vampire element is just an added twist. I'm interested in romance novels even less than novels about blood-sucking immortals, so I very much doubt I'll be picking it up.
Since I haven't read it, I can't rightly form an opinion about it, but according to most of what I've learned about the series, I can conclude that I would dislike it greatly. I suppose if one is into that sort of thing, one would have every right to enjoy it and appreciate it. Awful writing aside, that is.
I don't have time for much leisure-reading. Most of what I read for fun is something other people would probably consider very boring. I used to read Dragonlance regularly, and I always thought the writing was great, but that was years ago. I may not regard it as highly today as I did then.
I agree that it's a shame when books I dislike (or presume to dislike) make it to the top of the list in popularity. I sometimes wonder what I'm missing, but the feeling doesn't last long. The books obviously appeal to some audience; otherwise, they wouldn't sell. Whether the writing is bad or the story is horrid apparently makes little difference to them. If they enjoy it, fine. As long as they stay the hell away from me, I don't care what they read.
I don't even know what Maximum Ride is.
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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:38 pm
Hear the music and despair…MR is bird-people hybrids.
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:30 pm
I haven't read about Maximum Ride or Twilight. Though I have seen snatches of the movie. I'm actually quite unsure about picking up the book even though I like vampires and such. The sparkly bit scares me though.
There are some good books. But mostly the dumb s**t climbs to the top. Which is sad. Probably one of the reasons why I read the Redwall series. It's more to the style of the golden age of books.
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 1:56 pm
I've read both series.
As for Twilight, I did like it, until everyone started to go berserk about it and obsess over the book. The first book was the best, and then the series went downhill. They just didn't make too much sense. And, now that I think about it, Bella is a Mary Sue.
Maximum Ride was kickass. Note the was. Maximum Ride 1-3 was the best, and then book 4 and 5 were added into the mix. They threw the series off and I still haven't been able to finish the latest book -- it's lost its touch.
The best books are probably ones that aren't well known -- or the best anime known to man: Naruto!
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:21 pm
In agreement. There has been a serious and somewhat sudden lack of decent literature. Most of what's considered good is hundreds of years old.
But consider that today creativity branches into a staggering number of different mediums.
The 'creative minds' (and you agree that there is at least someone you know who fits into this category) have more to work with than just writing.
Consider the great outburst of Movies, Music, Video Games, internet anything, and Graphic Novels. Those great ideas and concepts can trace their, I guess Lineage, back to written literature.
So it's not that bad, the world is just a bigger place now.
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:25 pm
I disagree. Because like the saying goes you can't judge a book by it's cover. Sure these books are lame but...
There are still a lot of good new book titles out there. The problem is we don't have a lot of good readers anymore. People only start reading when MTV or some other non-literally medium tells them to read. I been reading since I was five years old and it's one of my favorite hobbies. In my humble opinion I never follow the "best seller list" as most of those books are based on outside popularization. Like Colbert's I am American and So can you. It's a decent book however it only made the list because of his fame. (Same with any other celebrity's book.) Most of the time they aren't well written but they make the Best seller list anyway.
I don't know why Harry Potter, twilight or the title you mention became fast sellers. However just because something is popular doesn't mean it's the best. (even if it makes the "best" list) No, it's better to just search around and read books that fancy you. The last book I read that I wish made some sort of list was called the Summerhouse by Jude Deveraux. It's one of those "What if" books but with some twists, wonderful characters, and realistic relationship. I also read: Honolulu by Alan Brennert which is really good. If you into Asian reads.
Oh, keep in mind series nowadays are usually weaker than full length novels anyway as the author is banking on the fact that it will become hot. However with a full one-shot novel the author is pouring probably years of study into their piece and probably will only sell that one book.
The last series I read was the Samurai Girl one and that was pretty bad. Same withe the new Wonderland series... The Looking Glass Wars by Frank Beddor . Alice is just not that likable and very unsure of herself. I like Hatter and Molly but everyone else could get their heads lopped off.
The only good thing about the series is the re-imaging of Wonderland as a whole but that's about it. However, that's my opinion you can check that series out for yourself.
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:28 pm
i have not read twilight in fact the last time i went to barnes and nobles i moved all the twilight books to a different section so no one could find them as for MR the first few were good but as most series do end up they end up in chruning the cash cow and pushing out more and more books my favorite proof and point artimes fowl after a ending that would have been picturesque they pushed out anothe book that involved time paradox's and confused the living hell out of everyone
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:41 pm
I read all of the Twilight books. I loved the first one.
The second-fourth went continually downhill. I wish Bella would've died by hitting the rocks on the way down the cliff. Drowning would've been too good for the whining cow. She does get rather sexed crazed... then to become the heroine at the end with the super powers of a shield? I guess being empty headed can count for something.
I love the master, Stephen King. After his accident he published sevral books that were too similar, but I read them all because they were from S. King. His latest book was interesting and soon we will have another offering that I'm hoping will be more like the old style King we all fell in love with.
Where did Robert Jordan go? We're on the 11th book for goodness sake.
Now he has introduced several important New Characters at the End of the Series? Where the f**k did that b*****d go without finishing the series?
As for movies being new and wonderful, Could we have a New Movie? Seriously, another remake of Alice and Wonderland? Seems like all we have is one remake after another. Perhaps we have all of these remakes because we are void of good new literature?????
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:13 pm
Pokums1993 As for movies being new and wonderful, Could we have a New Movie? Seriously, another remake of Alice and Wonderland? Seems like all we have is one remake after another. Perhaps we have all of these remakes because we are void of good new literature????? Nope it's like I said. People aren't good readers any more. The book I listed above would make wonderful movies. Especially the Summerhouse. Yeah it seems like all Hollywood wants to do nowadays is ruin classic stories, comic books, video game characters, and even ANIME characters ect.
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:28 am
Max was ******* awesome... while it lasted... you know they are now calling 4 and 5 a different series, The Protectors or something... shame??
i think if you extend a series beyond 3 books, you're pushing it. There are exceptions of course (Harry Potter fans, anyone?) but.. well.. with sequels in general you just run out of ideas. So get over sequels and go read The Book Thief, or Cry of the Icemark, or something... standalone books or trilogies don't fall apart as often.
always here for suggestions...
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:35 am
Yeah, I know what you mean.
People nowadays just don't understand what a good novel is.
I mean, Twilight's okay, but why do people go crazy over it and think about it everyday? I know a kid at my school who is so obsessed with Edward Cullen, and she doesn't work at school. She only ever dreams being with Rob Pattinson. Ever heard of obsession person?
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Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:10 am
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Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 6:40 pm
Twilight was good, but not so good. O.o And someone says that Bella goes a little sex crazy and I agree. He's a VAMPIRE! He'll rip your head off! Not like the werewolves are much better, but FINALLY! A werewolf book/movie where the werewolves are actually WOLVES! I'm so sick of the half human things. They are not werewolves. They are a distant relative to Wolfman. American Werewolf in London is absolutely amazing for the wolves.
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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 4:17 pm
well, yeah. and now that the vampire crave in literature has caught on, the books that are following it seem really wierd. there's one, and the 'vampires', are angels who volunteered to save humanity from the angels of satan, and they bond together to create strong ties. one of them is gross because the pairs are usually born together, so you pretty much marry your brother/sister (yuck! trying to soak that one in). then there's ones that completely milk the stereotypes, and this is a lot of what's being seen in literature. but the tv has gotten bad, so better that than anything
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