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What is your favorite type of lace?
  Cluny
  Eyelet
  Venise
  Net Lace
  Raschel
  All of the above!
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Cryrin
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:16 pm


This is the place to look for or ask about patterns, tutorials, fabric, how to construct outfits or accessories on your own-- and, best of all, to show off the things that you've made!

Links and Q & A will be updated periodically with new information

Criticism must be constructive.
If you are commenting, please remember to be polite. There is a big different between saying something is ugly, and suggesting that someone use a different fabric or lace. Remain constructive.
If you are posting items that you have made, please accept the opinions of others with grace. We're not out to get you, just because we didn't kiss your feet-- the opposite: We'd like to help you improve. Even if you do something very well, there is always room for improvement.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:30 pm



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Cryrin
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:07 pm


Q & A
Question: What fabrics and lace should I use?
Answer: Natural materials are the best for Lolita. Which typically means cotton fabric-- Kona Cotton for solid colors, or quilting weight broadcloth. It should be thick enough to not be sheer, but shouldn't be super heavy. Velveteen or a microsuede could be used during the winter, but polyester and other synthetic fabrics (especially anything shiny) should be avoided. For ribbon, grosgrain is preferred over shiny satin ribbon, but satin ribbon can be and is used, it's all a matter of in moderation.
Keeping with a preference for natural and/or high quality items, scratchy synthetic lace is frowned upon-- Cluny lace, eyelet, venise lace, and net lace are the most commonly acceptable.
The Lolita Handbook: A Quick Guide to Lace

Question: Wait, I'm still confused about lace! When do I use which types? Are you sure I can't get away with cheaper lace?
Answer: The use of lace is very garment and style specific, in my opinion.
Venise can be used for almost any style. Because you're able to find more unique shapes in the lace than what you usually find in cluny, like bows or roses, I've seen it work with sweet garments, classical garments, or gothic.
Eyelet lace is 9/10 only really suitable for sweet outfits.
Cluny works best with sweet, but can be used here and there with gothic when dyed black. It doesn't seem to fit well for classical styles, unless it's very minimal, like a thin row along a bottom hem, and/or dyed the same color as the garment.
Net lace, which is generally only seen in ivory or white, and best suited for classical outfits (like so). However, some of the custom lace that Moi meme Moitie has created could be considered net lace, that they've dyed in the factory to accent/match their garments-- so using it with gothic styles isn't out of the question, it's just incredibly difficult when sewing at home where you can't really dye it.
Now that I've covered the standards of what the best types of lace are, I'll touch on quality in general. It's not a complete 100% requirement to use those types of lace. The main keys to using cheaper synthetics are to use it in moderation, and definately nothing too wide. It's best to shy away from contrasting colors, and definately touch and feel the lace to make sure that it's not SUPER scratchy-- there are softer synthetics out there.
I would also like to point out that there are more problems with the cheaper synthetics than it just not looking as nice as other types. Such as the problem of it tending to curl up if it's washed, and it melts under an iron. Even if it's subtle and looks nice along a hemline, it's going to make it incredibly hard to iron that hemline flat if you need to later on.
The higher quality materials that you use on a garment IS going to make a difference and give you a garment that looks better and lasts longer. You do not have to use them, but I would personally suggest it. There are brands that still use synthetics, such as Metamorphose, but most are shying away from them, and even Meta is using a little more cotton raschel and torchon lace (Cluny) than they used to.

Question: What is the difference between rouching and shirring?
Answer: (by spuntino) Rouching and shirring aren't that different in technique, but they are used to create different effects. Generally, rouching on garments is a vertical element and done to create a sort of "scallop" shape on a hem, to gather a neckline down into the bodice [usually done with camisols or jersey knit tops in mainstream fashion], or to make light crinkles. There usually isn't more than one or two lines and they're often far apart.
Shirring is usually horizontal [and rarely vertical] and serves as faux smocking. It's both a decorative element and a tailoring element, unlike rouching. Rows of shirring are usually spaced no more than an inch or so apart and create a tight pattern rather than the light "folds" and gathers that rouching tends to cause. The elastic used in shirring also ensures that the garment will fit you snugly with a minimal amount of specifically tailored elements.

Question: What should a petticoat be made out of?
Answer: Stiff tulle, netting, organdy/organza, or for a very light poof, you can use a thin broadcloth that's heavily gathered. When using tulle or netting, it's best to make a lining out of broadcloth, to keep the material from scratching your legs.

Question: What is Princess-Line?
Answer: (by spuntino) A princess line and an A-line are very similar, actually [technically,the princess line is a type of A-line]. The shape is more or less the same, the difference is that A-lines usually have a seam at the waist and princess lines usually have none. They're fitted to the body throughout rather than just at the waist with a separate bodice. For skirts, either term can be used but ordinarily you'll see "princess line" applied to a high waist skirt. In the case of lolita, the skirts are much fuller than just an ordinary A-line as well.

Question: Should I line my skirts/dresses?
Answer: It's really up to you if you want to line a garment, or not. Lining and interlining help the garment to lay much more smoothly on the body and can add strength, stability, and a longer life to the piece of clothing. Skirts are more flowy because the outer layer isn't clinging to skin or the netting on a petticoat, and it also helps to eliminate possible lines from undergarments-- such as the waist of your petticoat or bloomers, if they sit too close to the waist of your dress/skirt.
It's not a requirement for something to still be considered good quality and nicely finished, but it's an extra step that can take it from good quality to great quality. I'm personally a freak for high quality, so I love to work with lining, and I've been working on some even more specialized tailoring techniques like incorporating interlining between the layers for extra stability.

Question: How do I make a lining? It's like making a second garment, right?
Answer: When lining something-- yes, you are basically making a second garment, and it should be cut to the same size as the original. You want all seams to match up when you sew the lining to the outer layer, so be careful to make sure you're using the same seam allowance on the outer layer as you do the lining when you sew them. If you're going to accidentally take in more seam allowance on one layer versus the other, try to make sure it's the lining that's more snug than the outside, so it doesn't look bulky under the other layer. No one would notice if the fashion layer is a tiny bit bigger than the lining, but the other way around can prove frumpy looking. wink
The only difference between the two patterns is that you'll want the lining layer to be a little bit shorter than the outer layer, so it does not peek out the bottom when you move. Just hemming it an inch or two shorter than the outside layer is fine.
The only exception to the rule of hemming it shorter would be with a petticoat, when you'd want the lining layer roughly an inch longer than the tulle/netting so it doesn't scratch your legs.
PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:18 am


Is there really no interest in sewing? sad Boo.

Well, I'll kick things off then, with a couple of the things that I've made this year. (None of which for myself. The plaid set was commissioned for a trade, the hat and heart-bow were commissioned for sale, and the pink set is still available for sale)

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The Skirt
The Headband
Full image post Here.

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The Back
Waistband/Zipper/Detachable Waist-tie
Hair Accessories
Full image post Here.

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More examples are at my brand journal, Il Sangue.

Cryrin
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Hoshina Aili

PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:56 am


Hmmm, how many years are you "keen on" lolita? I mean, you are in lolita's style since. . .? *curious*  
PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:21 pm


Hoshina Aili
Hmmm, how many years are you "keen on" lolita? I mean, you are in lolita's style since. . .? *curious*


Are you asking if there's a standard time limit? As in, do you have to observe for a certain period of time before you start dressing the part?
Or are you asking how many years I, in particular, have been interested or involved in the fashion?
I've had an interest for 5-6 years now, and I started incorporating small items into my wardrobe within that first year, then began incorporating larger items roughly 4 years ago.

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VicMcSeven

PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:26 pm


Does anyone know where I can get a dressform? I've been looking for one, but every search I do on google gets me mannequins, and I need an adjustable...

I've also recently finished a shirt. I'll post some pictures later, once I get a hold of our camera...
PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2009 2:35 pm


I NEED to learn how to sew *cry*!!!! I really wanna make my own loli clothes!!!! Does anybody know where can I find some "tutorial" or something like this for me to learn???  

Hoshina Aili


Cryrin
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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 6:05 pm


VicMcSeven
Does anyone know where I can get a dressform? I've been looking for one, but every search I do on google gets me mannequins, and I need an adjustable...

I've also recently finished a shirt. I'll post some pictures later, once I get a hold of our camera...


I hope you'll show us soon!

As for dress forms: Mine was bought from Joann Fabrics (if you don't have one in your area, you can look on joann.com). You can also try searching "Adjustable dress form" in google, or looking for certain brands. Fabulous Fit, Singer and Dritz are most common and highly reliable.


Hoshina Aili
I NEED to learn how to sew *cry*!!!! I really wanna make my own loli clothes!!!! Does anybody know where can I find some "tutorial" or something like this for me to learn???


If you scroll up to the second post in this thread, you'll see a section of useful links. There are links to many useful tutorials, free patterns, and so on. smile
PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 9:09 pm


Finished a commission for a simple black skirt (this is technically the replacement. The original was lost by the mail. oiutwo45 evil This one, however, thankfully arrived safely)

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For some smaller crafts, I recently put together a pair of Pink x White wristcuffs
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This sidebow is to match a JSK that I'm working on for another commission
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And a number of Floral Hair Corsages that I posted for sale on Livejournal, to the EGL sales community, here.

Cryrin
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Cryrin
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:27 pm


Another commission finished!

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100% Cotton Sateen
Fully Lined with 100% Cotton Broadcloth
Fully Serged
Venise & Net Lace
Gimp Braid
Invisible Zipper and Hook & Eye Closure
Removable Belt/Waist Ties with Decorative Gold Buckle
Detachable Bow on Pin-back
PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:48 pm


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Rest of the images available HERE!

100% Cotton
Fully serged
Fully lined
Venise Lace & Rayon Braid
Elastic panel and lacing in back for fit (ribbon ends sealed to prevent fraying)
Invisible zipper and Hook & Eye closure

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