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 Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 12:31 pm
So... I finally mustered the courage to re-watch Code of Hero after a couple years... and every time that I'd watch it, I kept hoping the outcome would be different. That episode was so moving, that, despite being a kids show, it still affects me so much now in my 20s.
Discuss-
Dinobot
Code of Hero
Any other instance in TF history that has affected you
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:11 pm
omg i was just thinking about that the other night looking at my new dinobot toy, it was so sad, dinobot was and still is one of my favs even his later clone was cool and it was also sad when he died
i almost cryed watching Code of Hero most epic death ever in transformers well that and and Prime in the 86 movie
Bay movie deaths are nothing no feeling in them what so ever thats why bay sucks all action no emotions
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:15 am
Beast Wars has many of those moments that touch the emotional side. G1 I didn't find so many :
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:19 pm
BogiePop Bay movie deaths are nothing no feeling in them what so ever thats why bay sucks all action no emotionsYou mean like all the other deaths in the '86 movie? wink
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 7:26 am
Mylian BogiePop Bay movie deaths are nothing no feeling in them what so ever thats why bay sucks all action no emotionsYou mean like all the other deaths in the '86 movie? wink well they tryed with Prime but we knew them from the show so it was atleast alittle sad when they were killed
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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:25 am
I all ways enjoyed Code of Hero.
I have to admit though I was annoyed when they brought in the Clone Dinobot in the third season.
Not to mention the completely unexplained heel face turn at the end of Beast Wars where it somehow had the actual Dinobot's memories.
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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:12 pm
ObsidianWolfX I all ways enjoyed Code of Hero. I have to admit though I was annoyed when they brought in the Clone Dinobot in the third season. Not to mention the completely unexplained heel face turn at the end of Beast Wars where it somehow had the actual Dinobot's memories. i dont think he had his memories
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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:16 am
BogiePop ObsidianWolfX I all ways enjoyed Code of Hero. I have to admit though I was annoyed when they brought in the Clone Dinobot in the third season. Not to mention the completely unexplained heel face turn at the end of Beast Wars where it somehow had the actual Dinobot's memories. i dont think he had his memories I'm referring to the moment in Beast Wars final episodes where he flashes back to the previous destruction of the valley.
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:42 am
One of the many reasons that Beast Wars is so highly regarded. Code of Hero is an excellent episode with superb writing. In fact, I enjoy so many characters and lines that it is hard to say what my favored moment would be.
It is true that Bayformers killed without much emotional investment, but I believe the argument against the animated film was the opening sequence where so many fell without any emotional involvement as well. Unless one had watched intently over the show, the deaths of Brawn, Prowl, Ironhide, Ratchet, Wheeljack, Windcharger, and others really had no impact except to show the brutality of the moment.
Only Prime got a decent death scene . . . even Unicron's destruction had no real emotion involved in it except a summary "Yay, we win" and a bit of "ooooooh, aaaaaaah, fireworks."
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:21 pm
Magni Prime One of the many reasons that Beast Wars is so highly regarded. Code of Hero is an excellent episode with superb writing. In fact, I enjoy so many characters and lines that it is hard to say what my favored moment would be. It is true that Bayformers killed without much emotional investment, but I believe the argument against the animated film was the opening sequence where so many fell without any emotional involvement as well. Unless one had watched intently over the show, the deaths of Brawn, Prowl, Ironhide, Ratchet, Wheeljack, Windcharger, and others really had no impact except to show the brutality of the moment. Only Prime got a decent death scene . . . even Unicron's destruction had no real emotion involved in it except a summary "Yay, we win" and a bit of "ooooooh, aaaaaaah, fireworks." true that Unicron's destruction was a bit laking but he live on as a big head but still the 86 movies was really geared for the fans of the show so we were the one emotional invested with beast wars small cast no more then 7 one ether side we got to know the more so when one of them dies we felt it alittle deeper but when scopanok and terasor it was really just to make room
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Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:06 am
BogiePop Magni Prime One of the many reasons that Beast Wars is so highly regarded. Code of Hero is an excellent episode with superb writing. In fact, I enjoy so many characters and lines that it is hard to say what my favored moment would be. It is true that Bayformers killed without much emotional investment, but I believe the argument against the animated film was the opening sequence where so many fell without any emotional involvement as well. Unless one had watched intently over the show, the deaths of Brawn, Prowl, Ironhide, Ratchet, Wheeljack, Windcharger, and others really had no impact except to show the brutality of the moment. Only Prime got a decent death scene . . . even Unicron's destruction had no real emotion involved in it except a summary "Yay, we win" and a bit of "ooooooh, aaaaaaah, fireworks." true that Unicron's destruction was a bit laking but he live on as a big head but still the 86 movies was really geared for the fans of the show so we were the one emotional invested with beast wars small cast no more then 7 one ether side we got to know the more so when one of them dies we felt it alittle deeper but when scopanok and terasor it was really just to make room According to the news press of the time the death of Optimus was a test/experiment. They wanted to encourage a new line of toys and to see if a death of a main character such as Optimus would impact the show as a whole. Their guess was that it didn't and that the new line of toys will still sale because it would be of fresh everything. They were wrong. They even admitted that they miscalculated and didn't realize that people were crying walking out of the movie and the death of Optimus also led to the death of Transformers. Through this they didn't kill the main character in GI Joe and only placed him in a comma to avoid losing all of the fans at once. As for the emotional attachments to characters, I think it really relies on development of the characters. In G1 there were little room for development and thus everyone grew attached to Optimus as he is the only one who really showed all his sides and show some growth. The other characters were all on the side with some episodes that highlight them but not much development ever happens.
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Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:06 am
DevilsLight BogiePop Magni Prime One of the many reasons that Beast Wars is so highly regarded. Code of Hero is an excellent episode with superb writing. In fact, I enjoy so many characters and lines that it is hard to say what my favored moment would be. It is true that Bayformers killed without much emotional investment, but I believe the argument against the animated film was the opening sequence where so many fell without any emotional involvement as well. Unless one had watched intently over the show, the deaths of Brawn, Prowl, Ironhide, Ratchet, Wheeljack, Windcharger, and others really had no impact except to show the brutality of the moment. Only Prime got a decent death scene . . . even Unicron's destruction had no real emotion involved in it except a summary "Yay, we win" and a bit of "ooooooh, aaaaaaah, fireworks." true that Unicron's destruction was a bit laking but he live on as a big head but still the 86 movies was really geared for the fans of the show so we were the one emotional invested with beast wars small cast no more then 7 one ether side we got to know the more so when one of them dies we felt it alittle deeper but when scopanok and terasor it was really just to make room According to the news press of the time the death of Optimus was a test/experiment. They wanted to encourage a new line of toys and to see if a death of a main character such as Optimus would impact the show as a whole. Their guess was that it didn't and that the new line of toys will still sale because it would be of fresh everything. They were wrong. They even admitted that they miscalculated and didn't realize that people were crying walking out of the movie and the death of Optimus also led to the death of Transformers. Through this they didn't kill the main character in GI Joe and only placed him in a comma to avoid losing all of the fans at once. As for the emotional attachments to characters, I think it really relies on development of the characters. In G1 there were little room for development and thus everyone grew attached to Optimus as he is the only one who really showed all his sides and show some growth. The other characters were all on the side with some episodes that highlight them but not much development ever happens. transformers never really died its going 25 years strong but yea with the death of prime it did kill transformers state side for a few years
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Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:17 pm
BogiePop DevilsLight BogiePop Magni Prime One of the many reasons that Beast Wars is so highly regarded. Code of Hero is an excellent episode with superb writing. In fact, I enjoy so many characters and lines that it is hard to say what my favored moment would be. It is true that Bayformers killed without much emotional investment, but I believe the argument against the animated film was the opening sequence where so many fell without any emotional involvement as well. Unless one had watched intently over the show, the deaths of Brawn, Prowl, Ironhide, Ratchet, Wheeljack, Windcharger, and others really had no impact except to show the brutality of the moment. Only Prime got a decent death scene . . . even Unicron's destruction had no real emotion involved in it except a summary "Yay, we win" and a bit of "ooooooh, aaaaaaah, fireworks." true that Unicron's destruction was a bit laking but he live on as a big head but still the 86 movies was really geared for the fans of the show so we were the one emotional invested with beast wars small cast no more then 7 one ether side we got to know the more so when one of them dies we felt it alittle deeper but when scopanok and terasor it was really just to make room According to the news press of the time the death of Optimus was a test/experiment. They wanted to encourage a new line of toys and to see if a death of a main character such as Optimus would impact the show as a whole. Their guess was that it didn't and that the new line of toys will still sale because it would be of fresh everything. They were wrong. They even admitted that they miscalculated and didn't realize that people were crying walking out of the movie and the death of Optimus also led to the death of Transformers. Through this they didn't kill the main character in GI Joe and only placed him in a comma to avoid losing all of the fans at once. As for the emotional attachments to characters, I think it really relies on development of the characters. In G1 there were little room for development and thus everyone grew attached to Optimus as he is the only one who really showed all his sides and show some growth. The other characters were all on the side with some episodes that highlight them but not much development ever happens. transformers never really died its going 25 years strong but yea with the death of prime it did kill transformers state side for a few years Tis was never same again crying
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:23 pm
DevilsLight BogiePop DevilsLight BogiePop Magni Prime One of the many reasons that Beast Wars is so highly regarded. Code of Hero is an excellent episode with superb writing. In fact, I enjoy so many characters and lines that it is hard to say what my favored moment would be. It is true that Bayformers killed without much emotional investment, but I believe the argument against the animated film was the opening sequence where so many fell without any emotional involvement as well. Unless one had watched intently over the show, the deaths of Brawn, Prowl, Ironhide, Ratchet, Wheeljack, Windcharger, and others really had no impact except to show the brutality of the moment. Only Prime got a decent death scene . . . even Unicron's destruction had no real emotion involved in it except a summary "Yay, we win" and a bit of "ooooooh, aaaaaaah, fireworks." true that Unicron's destruction was a bit laking but he live on as a big head but still the 86 movies was really geared for the fans of the show so we were the one emotional invested with beast wars small cast no more then 7 one ether side we got to know the more so when one of them dies we felt it alittle deeper but when scopanok and terasor it was really just to make room According to the news press of the time the death of Optimus was a test/experiment. They wanted to encourage a new line of toys and to see if a death of a main character such as Optimus would impact the show as a whole. Their guess was that it didn't and that the new line of toys will still sale because it would be of fresh everything. They were wrong. They even admitted that they miscalculated and didn't realize that people were crying walking out of the movie and the death of Optimus also led to the death of Transformers. Through this they didn't kill the main character in GI Joe and only placed him in a comma to avoid losing all of the fans at once. As for the emotional attachments to characters, I think it really relies on development of the characters. In G1 there were little room for development and thus everyone grew attached to Optimus as he is the only one who really showed all his sides and show some growth. The other characters were all on the side with some episodes that highlight them but not much development ever happens. transformers never really died its going 25 years strong but yea with the death of prime it did kill transformers state side for a few years Tis was never same again crying but g1 keeped going in japan if you dont mind subtitles
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