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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:39 am
I thought of this while I was trying to come up with a new intellectual argument/debate thread. No this isn't it, just something we can discuss.
For all of you who don't know, the placebo effect is a psychological effect where you are given fake pills and told you're receiving real medicine, and strangely enough the body has been known to cure whatever is wrong through pure belief that it would. In other words, you think so and so will work, and through sheer belief it does. And no, it's not always given to hypochondriacs who think something is always wrong with them. (For those of you who don't know, I might be on a placebo even, for my liver. Being a test in the UCSD they can't tell me if it's the real medicine and whatnot.)
Now I was thinking about this, is the placebo effect possible on anything else? Like, oh I don't know... Runescape? Not that you would be taking sugar pills and playing RS or anything, that would be silly!
But I mean believing something works to the point where it does in fact work for you? Lets say how before it was with Barrows or with the Ring of Wealth (Before it got debunked by Jagex and fellow players) Believing some of the old rumors made us believe anything small and insignificant being dropped or obtained seem like the rumor was true, thus making you do so and so more often to try and milk the rumor. Just thinking it would work made it work, even if it didn't in fact work. Get me?
Or lets say leveling/exp. If you think so and so method of training is faster than the rest, even if it's not, it seems to you like you're gaining more exp than you really are when you're really gaining it at the same amount you would have normally. Or even the whole way around, if you think certain method is slower to train (lets say Heavy Rod/Barb Fishing) when it's actually been shown to give more exp per hour than the method you were using before (Lets say Monkfish) Thinking it goes slower will cause you to stare at your EXP the whole time, even if you're gaining more exp the feel of it will turn you away from it.
Sure it's a different kind of effect, but haven't any of you noticed it? It's not like just believing will change the game, it'll just change your perception and change you during the time playing (you mind find it more fun thinking you're getting good drops/items because you're busy believing something or because you think you're getting very fast exp)
tl;dr - placebo + rs = discussion.
Discuss; The placebo effect on Runescape.
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:56 am
A watched pot never boils.
You gotta put water in it and turn on the stove first.
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:45 am
Airazor A watched pot never boils. You gotta put water in it and turn on the stove first. I'll show you how to boil pot ;] heart
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:17 pm
Really, I've thought this to myself a few times before....if you believe something above another thing, then your perception will make it real, or more efficient in your own eyes. (Or even the other way around)
It is very interesting to think of it in terms of Runescape, and looking back on a few things.....the Placebo effect was there. XD
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:15 pm
Intersting idea. Though...I'm not really sure. I guess the idea of something seeming faster if you do it one way or another is...plausable(sp?) but if you look at it logicaly it is. Like trainging with a Sara Sword vs a Brozen dagger. You'll most likely hit harder with the Sara Sword, thus being able to kill your target in fewer attacks thus killing it faster than with the bronze dagger. That really doesn't have anything to do with thinking it's faster. It's simply fact. In a Turn Based game like this, speed really doesnt' have an effect unless it's something like fishing Shrimp vs Sharks at level 99 Fishing. Yeah, it'll seem like you're catching Shrimp faster because you are. You can think you're chatching Sharks faster all you want but you really arent. It's just comes down to a personal opinion on what's fast and what's slow. I've also noticed that, for me, once I get within 20k of a level, the XP seems to just poof away a lot faster than when I have 500k to go. It's just the fact that there is a smaller number so the 424 xp from a Dustie seems to make a bigger impact when it really isnt.
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:44 pm
lizzardoffire16 Intersting idea. Though...I'm not really sure. I guess the idea of something seeming faster if you do it one way or another is...plausable(sp?) but if you look at it logicaly it is. Like trainging with a Sara Sword vs a Brozen dagger. You'll most likely hit harder with the Sara Sword, thus being able to kill your target in fewer attacks thus killing it faster than with the bronze dagger. That really doesn't have anything to do with thinking it's faster. It's simply fact. In a Turn Based game like this, speed really doesnt' have an effect unless it's something like fishing Shrimp vs Sharks at level 99 Fishing. Yeah, it'll seem like you're catching Shrimp faster because you are. You can think you're chatching Sharks faster all you want but you really arent. It's just comes down to a personal opinion on what's fast and what's slow. I've also noticed that, for me, once I get within 20k of a level, the XP seems to just poof away a lot faster than when I have 500k to go. It's just the fact that there is a smaller number so the 424 xp from a Dustie seems to make a bigger impact when it really isnt.
rofl Lizzy, you got the whole point wrong. It doesn't effect the game, it effects how you see the game.
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 6:37 pm
Bombi lizzardoffire16 Intersting idea. Though...I'm not really sure. I guess the idea of something seeming faster if you do it one way or another is...plausable(sp?) but if you look at it logicaly it is. Like trainging with a Sara Sword vs a Brozen dagger. You'll most likely hit harder with the Sara Sword, thus being able to kill your target in fewer attacks thus killing it faster than with the bronze dagger. That really doesn't have anything to do with thinking it's faster. It's simply fact. In a Turn Based game like this, speed really doesnt' have an effect unless it's something like fishing Shrimp vs Sharks at level 99 Fishing. Yeah, it'll seem like you're catching Shrimp faster because you are. You can think you're chatching Sharks faster all you want but you really arent. It's just comes down to a personal opinion on what's fast and what's slow. I've also noticed that, for me, once I get within 20k of a level, the XP seems to just poof away a lot faster than when I have 500k to go. It's just the fact that there is a smaller number so the 424 xp from a Dustie seems to make a bigger impact when it really isnt.
rofl Lizzy, you got the whole point wrong. It doesn't effect the game, it effects how you see the game. I don't feel good, leave me alone. sweatdrop
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 1:19 pm
lizzardoffire16 Bombi lizzardoffire16 Intersting idea. Though...I'm not really sure. I guess the idea of something seeming faster if you do it one way or another is...plausable(sp?) but if you look at it logicaly it is. Like trainging with a Sara Sword vs a Brozen dagger. You'll most likely hit harder with the Sara Sword, thus being able to kill your target in fewer attacks thus killing it faster than with the bronze dagger. That really doesn't have anything to do with thinking it's faster. It's simply fact. In a Turn Based game like this, speed really doesnt' have an effect unless it's something like fishing Shrimp vs Sharks at level 99 Fishing. Yeah, it'll seem like you're catching Shrimp faster because you are. You can think you're chatching Sharks faster all you want but you really arent. It's just comes down to a personal opinion on what's fast and what's slow. I've also noticed that, for me, once I get within 20k of a level, the XP seems to just poof away a lot faster than when I have 500k to go. It's just the fact that there is a smaller number so the 424 xp from a Dustie seems to make a bigger impact when it really isnt.
rofl Lizzy, you got the whole point wrong. It doesn't effect the game, it effects how you see the game. I don't feel good, leave me alone. sweatdrop
Well, wasn't that just a major metal boot-driven kick in the face? XD
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:11 pm
I believe my bad luck with drops on anything is a definite belief thought of myself just anything I can think of. (I'm tired, shut up x.x) First it was "Oh, you have a higher slayer level, you're just naturally lucky." Except then Silv and Lizzy ruined that one with their hoard of crap -.-
Now my mind set is that people with numbers in their user name have the utmost s**t for luck on Runescape, and it's so far been pretty accurate the way I see it.
Oh well, just some of the beliefs I have, I guess...
~Hampy
P.S. - I know the Ring of Wealth doesn't work because I got more Rune Meds in free world than I did with RoW on in p2p.... (From Lessers, I mean)
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:26 pm
Megahamster9 I believe my bad luck with drops on anything is a definite belief thought of myself just anything I can think of. (I'm tired, shut up x.x) First it was "Oh, you have a higher slayer level, you're just naturally lucky." Except then Silv and Lizzy ruined that one with their hoard of crap -.- I could see how Silv ruined it with his Dragon Chain drop but how did I ruin it? O_o;
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:06 am
Megahamster9 I believe my bad luck with drops on anything is a definite belief thought of myself just anything I can think of. (I'm tired, shut up x.x) First it was "Oh, you have a higher slayer level, you're just naturally lucky." Except then Silv and Lizzy ruined that one with their hoard of crap -.- Now my mind set is that people with numbers in their user name have the utmost s**t for luck on Runescape, and it's so far been pretty accurate the way I see it. Oh well, just some of the beliefs I have, I guess... ~Hampy P.S. - I know the Ring of Wealth doesn't work because I got more Rune Meds in free world than I did with RoW on in p2p.... (From Lessers, I mean) i agree my luck has been utter s**t when i pk i get multiple full rune kills with them skulled and what not i get an addy skirt at best. ps. yea r.o.w does not work in my opinion i getter better loot using my zerker ring zerker ring= new r.o.w lol
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:37 am
Megahamster9 I believe my bad luck with drops on anything is a definite belief thought of myself just anything I can think of. (I'm tired, shut up x.x) First it was "Oh, you have a higher slayer level, you're just naturally lucky." Except then Silv and Lizzy ruined that one with their hoard of crap -.- Now my mind set is that people with numbers in their user name have the utmost s**t for luck on Runescape, and it's so far been pretty accurate the way I see it. Oh well, just some of the beliefs I have, I guess... ~Hampy P.S. - I know the Ring of Wealth doesn't work because I got more Rune Meds in free world than I did with RoW on in p2p.... (From Lessers, I mean) Airazor 101. ninja
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 7:15 am
lizzardoffire16 Megahamster9 I believe my bad luck with drops on anything is a definite belief thought of myself just anything I can think of. (I'm tired, shut up x.x) First it was "Oh, you have a higher slayer level, you're just naturally lucky." Except then Silv and Lizzy ruined that one with their hoard of crap -.- I could see how Silv ruined it with his Dragon Chain drop but how did I ruin it? O_o;
I still believe that luck solely resembles on how many rare dragon item drops you've gotten in your RS career. For example Dragon Mediums, Dragon Halfs... Iunno, I get lucky with uncommon drops usually, like Runite (got like 3 or 4 rune chain drops last night from Abby task), but I'm horrid for rare (I have never gotten a dragon med, half, spear, etc.)
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:09 am
Megahamster9 lizzardoffire16 Megahamster9 I believe my bad luck with drops on anything is a definite belief thought of myself just anything I can think of. (I'm tired, shut up x.x) First it was "Oh, you have a higher slayer level, you're just naturally lucky." Except then Silv and Lizzy ruined that one with their hoard of crap -.- I could see how Silv ruined it with his Dragon Chain drop but how did I ruin it? O_o;
I still believe that luck solely resembles on how many rare dragon item drops you've gotten in your RS career. For example Dragon Mediums, Dragon Halfs... Iunno, I get lucky with uncommon drops usually, like Runite (got like 3 or 4 rune chain drops last night from Abby task), but I'm horrid for rare (I have never gotten a dragon med, half, spear, etc.) If you're looking at it that way I've only gotten 4 Dragon drops ever. ~Shield Left from Banshee ~Dragon Skirt from Irons ~Shield Left from Dusties ~Dragon Spear from Dusties.
The shield halfs aren't worth very much. Though I used one to make my Dragon Square. The Dragon skirt, ok I'll give you that. The Dragon Spear, to me, is pretty useless. It's not like I've got 5 Dragon Chains or gone to Godwars and left when an invo full of D boots. I don't agree with you on the Dragon Drop luck think. I mean, if you consider me a lucky player than I should be able to walk into the Bandos camp and leave with three or four hilts. I'm not a very lucky person. If I were I'd be getting amazing clues but I don't. The best clue I've ever gotten was a Sara Platebody. There really is no luck to Runescape, it's all just chance and what Jagex has programed into the monsters for their drops. Some are just in the right place at the right time.
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:01 am
You bring up a very interesting topic, I use RuneScape as a form to relieve stresses of the real world, and to get rid of head aches. Normally thinking " Oh, If I just play Rs it will get better. "
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