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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 3:29 pm


How much do you know about it?

I call it the force because that's basically the way i describe it.

Most metaphysics teaches of the same basic principals of the force, everything is quite literally connected.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:12 am


I have been studying metaphysics and related topics for 14 years and practicing for nearly as long. There is so much that could be said on each facet of metaphysics; magick, the supernatural/preternatural, psychic ability and a myriad of other topics that fall under the same umbrella. With so much information I really wouldn't know where to start this conversation since I have no idea what your level of knowledge is on the subject or where you want this discussion to go. So I'll leave it to you to start us off with something a little more specific. Did you have anything in particular you wanted to discuss?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:25 pm


Well, Have you read the kryon series? That would be a nice subject to start on.

Or maybe what the metaphysics version of god is and talk about that?

I have read quite a bit

(Three books.... I don't know if that's a lot)
PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:01 am


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Well, Have you read the kryon series? That would be a nice subject to start on.

Or maybe what the metaphysics version of god is and talk about that?

I have read quite a bit

(Three books.... I don't know if that's a lot)


No, I have not read the Kryon series unfortunately, you'll have to tell me what that series entails. Beyond that, again you'll have to be more specific in what you mean by the metaphysical version of god. Do you mean the views of the divine from the religions that include magick(in which case there are many), or are you asking what the views are from the non-spiritual side of the metaphysical community(again there are many)? In either case the question of defining divinity is one of a culturally specific, if not entirely individual, nature.

(P.S. Three books isn't really much when dealing with this subject. I've read well over two dozen and there is always more to learn.)

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:19 pm


Metaphysics is broader than i realized all i have read is the kryon series and things on higher magick,
PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:05 pm


I think this might be best answered by Zac, but what exactly is metaphysics?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:39 pm


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I think this might be best answered by Zac, but what exactly is metaphysics?


Metaphysics is usually short for metaphysical studies but can also refer to metaphysical topics in general. These topics include magick, psychic ability, supernatural entities and other abilities or topics that transcend the physical or known physical reality. It is a broad term that can refer to anything from werewolves to energy manipulation, all the way to astrology and even the study of abstract concepts such as time and existence.
The word metaphysics is derived from a Greek term that means "beyond physical" and that pretty much sums up exactly what it is. So you can understand how broad this topic is now and why I don't think this thread will go very far without more specific topics and questions. If this doesn't fully answer your question Josh let me know and I'll post more.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 4:46 am


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I think this might be best answered by Zac, but what exactly is metaphysics?

Metaphysics is usually short for metaphysical studies but can also refer to metaphysical topics in general. These topics include magick, psychic ability, supernatural entities and other abilities or topics that transcend the physical or known physical reality. It is a broad term that can refer to anything from werewolves to energy manipulation, all the way to astrology and even the study of abstract concepts such as time and existence.
The word metaphysics is derived from a Greek term that means "beyond physical" and that pretty much sums up exactly what it is. So you can understand how broad this topic is now and why I don't think this thread will go very far without more specific topics and questions. If this doesn't fully answer your question Josh let me know and I'll post more.

No, that answers it. Zac, I welcome you to be the one to narrow the range and take this thread where you like.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:26 pm


I don't suppose this topic might be able to discuss why people believe in the metaphysical to begin with? Not only would that adhere it more to the idea behind the subforum's name, but it would definitely help move the thread some... not that you have to take my advice or anything. 3nodding
PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:13 pm


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I don't suppose this topic might be able to discuss why people believe in the metaphysical to begin with? Not only would that adhere it more to the idea behind the subforum's name, but it would definitely help move the thread some... not that you have to take my advice or anything. 3nodding


Why do people believe in evolution or Christianity? Why do people believe in gravity or existence? Answer these questions and i will answer yours.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:32 pm


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I don't suppose this topic might be able to discuss why people believe in the metaphysical to begin with? Not only would that adhere it more to the idea behind the subforum's name, but it would definitely help move the thread some... not that you have to take my advice or anything. 3nodding

Proof. Simple, undeniable proof, usually in the form of experience. That is the only good reason in my opinion to believe in any thing. In essence, I believe it is best to know, not believe. I have experienced many things in my life and I will never speak of anything that I have not experienced for myself without specifically stating that it is a theory or educated extrapolation of experience and logical reasoning. Nor will I say anything is absolute fact, only that it is what I've found to be true.
I could care less if anyone believes me when I say something on any topic, I love to discuss these things and I think that when such conversations occur that those participating stand to learn a great deal. However, I will not waste my time trying to convince anyone of anything I say. I will state what I have found to be true and I will defend it with accounts of what led me to such conclusions to the best of my ability, gladly answering any questions, beyond that I will not engage in pointless arguments.

To better answer your question, some believe in such things through faith, need, imagination and the like and some know because they have seen, touched, smelled, tasted, heard or otherwise experienced events that lead them to lesser known truths. More often than not it is impossible to tell them apart unless you have found the same truths.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:44 pm


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Zac, I welcome you to be the one to narrow the range and take this thread where you like.


The best way I can think of narrowing this topic down is to basically select a topic and then work our way through that topic's subtopics until we're finished, then move on to another one. Below I have provided a basic list of the major topics of metaphysical studies I'll let anyone who wishes decide which one we start on.

1. Magic
2. Ghosts/Spirits
3. Supernatural Creatures
4. Spiritual Exploration and Enlightenment
5. Psychic Abilities
6. Astrology
7. Planes of Existence
8. God/Gods/the Divine
9. World Mythologies, Philosophies and Religions

Once the first topic is chosen I will create another list of its sub-categories and we'll go from there. This is the fairest and most complete way I can think of guiding this thread.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:00 am


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I don't suppose this topic might be able to discuss why people believe in the metaphysical to begin with? Not only would that adhere it more to the idea behind the subforum's name, but it would definitely help move the thread some... not that you have to take my advice or anything. 3nodding


Why do people believe in evolution or Christianity? Why do people believe in gravity or existence? Answer these questions and i will answer yours.


I should think people would believe in one of the first two because they want to know where their origins lie, and are subsequently stuck worrying and wondering about something they really have no way of finding out for sure.
As for gravity and existence, I won't say why people choose to believe them other than there really is no other choice at the moment, and most don't truly attempt to comprehend such things.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:03 am


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Proof. Simple, undeniable proof, usually in the form of experience. That is the only good reason in my opinion to believe in any thing. In essence, I believe it is best to know, not believe. I have experienced many things in my life and I will never speak of anything that I have not experienced for myself without specifically stating that it is a theory or educated extrapolation of experience and logical reasoning. Nor will I say anything is absolute fact, only that it is what I've found to be true.
I could care less if anyone believes me when I say something on any topic, I love to discuss these things and I think that when such conversations occur that those participating stand to learn a great deal. However, I will not waste my time trying to convince anyone of anything I say. I will state what I have found to be true and I will defend it with accounts of what led me to such conclusions to the best of my ability, gladly answering any questions, beyond that I will not engage in pointless arguments.

I don't suppose you would mind sharing a bit of this proof you spoke of at the beginning of your response? I have yet to experience anything out of the ordinary in my life, except perhaps my parents being unusually dickish about my schoolwork.

Daemon Solivagus
To better answer your question, some believe in such things through faith, need, imagination and the like and some know because they have seen, touched, smelled, tasted, heard or otherwise experienced events that lead them to lesser known truths. More often than not it is impossible to tell them apart unless you have found the same truths.


The above statement confuses me. I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say here.

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