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Nekoyasha_Skiiy

PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:24 pm


This is the location where young warders are taken in and trained to be powerful warriors. This is also the office of Skiiy Mikaido, the Master-of-Arms of the White Tower. Warders may come here to ask questions, or apply to be raised from a warder-in-training to a full Warder.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 7:39 pm


can I be raised to the next level?

I figure there's novice, Accepted, Aes Sedai. There's soldier, Dedicated, Asha'man. Then, there's Warder-in-training, Warder... What?

Shouldn't there be three levels?


((I'm not being serious, just bored and wanted to post in a subforum.))

CleverMog


Nekoyasha_Skiiy

PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 8:05 pm


Well, don't warders aim to master their weapon as well, but can only be considered masters after a long time of use? I guess *Insert weapon name here*master would work, if you really feel the need for a 3rd class. Like Blademaster, y'know...
PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:48 pm


But, but, but,.... I'm already a Blademaster... now what?

CleverMog


Nekoyasha_Skiiy

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:10 pm


...well of course you'd be maxed out on rank, you've been around forever...
PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:53 pm


lol, not forever, hust for a little bit. I have a problem cause I hate making little posts, so if I don't have the time to make a large one, I just don't post. That's why I don't have the monumental posts that some others do.

CleverMog


Kederaji Tajorn

PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:39 am


A bit of a necropost, but I thought I'd like to clear something up. While every warder would love to become a blademaster, and surely some do, there really aren't that many. It takes a VERY long time, and an incredible amount of work to earn the heron, which is why blademasters have the respect they have. So, I would suggest not calling blademaster a warder rank, since you can be a blademaster without being a warder, (Rand and Tam al'Thor both are), and you can be a warder without being a blademaster. (in fact, most warders are, I believe.)
PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:23 pm


...It seemed to me like Rand became a blademaster fairly quickly. Lan was also a blademaster, and their have been a number of others throughout the series. Only reason I even suggested it...

Nekoyasha_Skiiy


Gottakeepmoving

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:58 pm


Nekoyasha_Skiiy
...It seemed to me like Rand became a blademaster fairly quickly. Lan was also a blademaster, and their have been a number of others throughout the series. Only reason I even suggested it...



Rand al'Thor - Dragon Reborn
Lan Mandragon (spelling?) - sole survivor of Malkier (spelling?)


The book series makes Rand a blademaster only out of nessecity. I mean, how useful would he be if he couldn't work a sword?! Tch, some final battle that would be.

*Dark One shows up with a huge sword*
*Rand pulls out his sword*
*Dark One stabs Rand and ends the world*


...yea, great battle.
PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 6:13 am


CleverMog
can I be raised to the next level?

I figure there's novice, Accepted, Aes Sedai. There's soldier, Dedicated, Asha'man. Then, there's Warder-in-training, Warder... What?

Shouldn't there be three levels?


((I'm not being serious, just bored and wanted to post in a subforum.))


The warder ranks are as follows -

Siswai - Manshima - Ashanderai

Then if the Ashanderai is bonded he or she becomes a Gaidin or Gaidar.Its listed in the big white book somewhere. I'm to lazy to actually get up and get my book to find the page number.

Lecie


Kederaji Tajorn

PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 8:23 am


Nekoyasha_Skiiy
...It seemed to me like Rand became a blademaster fairly quickly. Lan was also a blademaster, and their have been a number of others throughout the series. Only reason I even suggested it...
Rand was also ta'veren, and his very existance twists chance beyond what is normally possible. It is indeed possible to become a blademaster very quickly, if one has incredible skill and quite a bit of luck.

Lan is most likely in his thirties or older, since he was a young man when Rand was born. He's had a lot of time to hone the skills that make him a one man army. I'm not saying that it takes a long time, but I am saying that there aren't a large amount of blademasters at all. Also, remember that the series is mostly considered with the movers and shakers of the world. I'm not opposed to a large number of blademasters here, but to call blademaster a rank would imply that everybody gets it.

That being said, I'm going to be continuing work on the swords and swordsmanship topic, and especially adding fighting techniques that don't center around the katana, which seems to be the weapon of choice of the blademasters of Randland. I may add some things about fighting with two swords, but I'm pretty unconvinced of the idea of that form of swordfighting being very effective, due to it's complexity. I'd welcome any comments or suggestions either in a PM, or if it deserves consideration by all, post it somewhere in this subforum that isn't in the topic itself. I'd like to keep it clear of general chitchat.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 12:58 am


Rand became a Blademaster through his Blood. If you recall, Lews Therin is described as one of the best with a blade. That coupled with one of the best teachers you can find and the thickness of the blood of Manatherin, equalled quick Blademaster.

CleverMog


Lecie

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 11:49 am


CleverMog
Rand became a Blademaster through his Blood. If you recall, Lews Therin is described as one of the best with a blade. That coupled with one of the best teachers you can find and the thickness of the blood of Manatherin, equalled quick Blademaster.


But Rand's blood was not of Manthern. He was just raised by the blood of Manthern. Rand is Aiel and of the noble blood of Andor. Tigraine is his mother and an Aiel his father.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 7:25 pm


LacyLaneAlMeraia
But Rand's blood was not of Manthern. He was just raised by the blood of Manthern. Rand is Aiel and of the noble blood of Andor. Tigraine is his mother and an Aiel his father.


Good point. The comment about Manetheren was mostly afterthought. The statement about Lews Therin, however, remains valid, and a strong reason as to his fast mastery of the blade.

CleverMog


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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 7:39 am


CleverMog
LacyLaneAlMeraia
But Rand's blood was not of Manthern. He was just raised by the blood of Manthern. Rand is Aiel and of the noble blood of Andor. Tigraine is his mother and an Aiel his father.


Good point. The comment about Manetheren was mostly afterthought. The statement about Lews Therin, however, remains valid, and a strong reason as to his fast mastery of the blade.


I think his aiel blood also played as a good reason for his skill mastery.
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