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AutumnFalls89

PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:47 pm


I thought it'd be a good idea to have a thread for those of us in YW class presidencies. I am a newly called Laurel pres. eek Scary lol. I have a question for all you presidency people; how do you unite the girls?

So yeah, feel free to discuss activities, problems etc smile
PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:05 pm


that is definitely a tough one. i think i was the first counselor (it's been so long sweatdrop ) and it's always hard to know how to best help your girls and get them to be involved and come to church and get along with one another.

i can tell you this, though. just pray about it and find activities that everyone would enjoy. you can't go wrong with prayer, and Heavenly Father knows best how to help us, so just ask Him. keep in contact with the less-actives in your group. visit them, bring them cookies (can't go wrong there, either wink ), tell them you love them and miss them. be kind and loving, and they will come around.

as to how to unite them once they are there...that's a little trickier. i personally struggled in that area myself because the girls all already had their cliques and had a hard time opening up to let more people in. the way to break that is by playing a game and putting everyone in a specific order, separating the best friends and finding ways for everyone to interact with the entire group, and not just their closer friends. play get-to-know-you games and offer prizes for knowing the most about someone they didn't know before.

hope that helps. smile

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:51 pm


Well, near the beginning of the year, we had huge issues in the class. Cliques were the main problem but, over all no one was willing to really step back from their clique and get to know each other. So, we had a friendship day for mutual. We (as in the presidency) assigned each girl a person and they had to find out all they could about that person without being caught by that girl and then that day, we guessed who it was. Personally, I saw a few friendships built that way. They found out they had more in common then they thought and were more willing to get to know each other.

I have found a good way to get the girls to really talk is to do a inside service project with all sorts of deserts. Like, we made scarfs for kids in mexico who had nothing warm for the winter. Our leaders had us sit in one circle and the leaders sat elsewhere as to not intrude. Everyone became more friendly and opened up a bit. Because of the way we sat, we couldn't just talk to the one sitting by us, it was a group discussion and once again, I saw friendships born that night to as girls found more similarities as they talked and worked towards the common goal of finnishing the scarfs.
PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:58 pm


thanks for the advice. My main issue is that most of us have known (and disliked) each other for five or more years. One other thing. I'm talking about spiritual unity not friendship, there is a difference. Unity is done by the spirit and is not easily broken, friendship changes and is fragile. I need to think of things that will invite the bond of sisterhood into the class. Frienship is not what is needed. I don't konw why leaders try to push friendship and not unify.

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Silriel

PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:20 pm


I think the reason the leasders push friendship instead of unity, is because if you are friends with a person(or are willing to be a friend of sorts) then you are more willing to unify with them.

I also was a Laural president and was recently released (I got to old and was kicked out into Relief society and the singles ward, and I moved... so yeah, enjoying it, but it's still new) and now that I look back on it I see several things that I should have done to help the girls open up to one another and not be so closed up in their groups, and encourage attendence to the meetings and activities...
So I guess one thing that would help with unity would be to help the girls all be there, or go together to the people who aren't as active and invite them to come with you. You cant really be unified with people that aren't there.

As with the known and disliked part of it, I know exactly what you are dealing with, I had the same problems, and I still am not sure how to fix it. I think that if you get the girls to know each other, then they are more likely to be willing to like each other more readily(or it may just backfire and they really don't like each other after getting to know them, but I doubt it) After getting to know one of the girls in my class better I found that I enjoyed talking with her, though we didn't talk much either way, I now look at her in a different light, besides being an annoying person who talks too much.

I also find that girls (and guys) act differently with their friends, and without them. If you can have activities where two or more groups of people that gennerally don't talk much(to each other) together and have them do get to know you games or what the other people have sudgested, you might find that they are more willing to work together. Also, if you have very spiritual activities, that will help a lot. If any one has gone to EFY, you know what I'm talking about. when you have spiritual experiences together, you are more likely to bond/unite/whatever.

I hope my little(*looks up* ok I lied, big) bit helped in any way.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:51 pm


I have been the Laurel Class prez since about my 16th birthday, almost 6 months ago. The problem is, I tend to be shy, and I have trouble talking to people, so I don't know how to get the less active girls involved.

And then, the beehives hate me. They think I am the big bad laurel because I ask them to be reverent. Okay, I admit, I have been a little bit mean occasionally, but I am really sorry, and now I don't know how I can get harmony back into YW because of some stupid mistakes I made. sad

Our YW is really divided. There are two main groups, really. I belong to the "loser" group. We aren't cool, or anything. We're just dorky gals who take church way seriously. The other group is really the group of giggly girls who have big ol' social lives and can't stay reverent and tend to be materialistic. One of them I have known since I was 9 months old. But we have seperated, and now I feel like I can't talk to her because we have different priorities. I don't feel like I can talk to many peopl in YW, except for the brand new leaders we have. I like them a lot. lol

Our leadership in the past has been very disorganized, and so we are really working on that now with our new leaders. I am the stick to the rules type of person, so I am loving this, and so does my Stake Prez. father, who also loves the rules. Life is crazy in YW, but it can only get better, no?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:45 am


Mind if I speak from the "outcasts" point of view? I'll try not to complain(it's hard, bt I'll try).

When I was in young womens, I really liked the service activities where we all split up and and did randome things for people in the ward. It got us to know each other and other people as well. For about four years, I knew some girls in the ward and only saw the bad side to them, the side I saw each time they broke a small rule I liked to harp on. Not until I started actually talking to them, getting to know their intrests and talents (instead of their tastes in boys and clothes), I finally became friends with them. It took me four years to learn that.

Irony of the whole thing, two months later, the stake rearanged their boundries. stare Then I went back to skiping mutual and dreding YW.

The problems I had were more with mindsets than anything else. Some of my old leaders had to stick their noses where they didn't belong. When the ward switched, they couldn't get it through their heads that it was two wards merging together. That, and they either looked down their noses at me or dismissed every word I said. I don't care what they say about then, that was how I felt. I literally ran from my YW class; if I was in there another week, I would have lost my temper so bad, they'd glare at me forever.

Any who(sorry, I complained! xp I won't any more, I hope), the best thing you can do to increase activation is to listen to them, and honestly respond. I've had more problems with leaders than I have with the other girls, but I do know that I was ignored a bunch, so I didn't want to go, ever. Remember that they're people too and that they want to be heard. If you don't understand, say so and ask them to explain. Secondly, with the activities you have, remember to put a spiritual twist inside them to have Unity. Feeling the spirit together unites people. Also, it follows the rules in the handbooks. Next, keep the activities you planned. If it doesn't work out due to some problem, tell them in advance and ask for sugestions on activites you could do instead. Lastly, don't have competition(make the points pointless in games). Nothing drives the spirit away, or forming friendships, faster than a competition where points matter and there are grand prizes. Games are for fun, not for contention.

Different people have different view of what should and shouldn't happen in YW. Ask those in your class for sugestions. Don't worry about the other classes(unless you have a sibling in there. then you worry); they aren't your problem. Sometimes though, if you repremand them, explain why you did. Just telling someone to shut up with no reason to do so, gets rather annoying and builds contention like nothing else.

I'll shut up now. I've talked too long. sweatdrop
PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 8:48 pm


Here's a new problem that I need advice for. There's this girl who is going to become a Laurel, Amber. She is the biggest flirt you'll ever know. Now, that in itself isn't a big problem but she will lead guys on and I know for a fact she's broken at least 3 guys hearts and is working on another. The thing is she doesn't see how she hurts a guy when she shamlessly comes onto him one week, (think bf/gf level of affection) and then ignores him the next week. How can I get her to see that she's killing these guys. I personally don't like her sweatdrop but it's my duty, I feel to try and help her. (for her sake and for the guys sakes) Any suggestions?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 6:25 pm


Dragonwarrior_Keltyr: I think you should confront her about it, but in a gentle matter. Talk some sense into her and maybe ask her friend's why she acts the way she does, and if they feel the same way you do about her "flirting" problem then maybe ask them if they can help you work out a plan to make her stop doing so. Also, don't forget to talk to the guys who she has messed with and tell them what her little game is if they haven't figured it out. It may make them feel a bit better, but also keep in mind that you don't want to hurt their feelings or her friends feelings or even hers.

Anyway.. I am the Secretary in my Mia Maids class. I was the Beehive President for about 4 months and before that I was the 2nd Counseler for about 2 months and before that I was Secretary for about a month or something. I'm not sure.. I just turned 14 in September, it's so exciting, but I'm the youngest. Hehe. Plus, most of my closer friends are Mia Maids and Laurels.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:18 pm


I've tried but she doesn't see what she's doing! scream

AutumnFalls89


Gwyndara

PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 12:20 am


It's been so many years, but I do remember thoes years.

The best thing that our presidency ever did, was to get to know each girl.
Individualy, and then make a point to say hello to them and ask them how they were doing, no matter where they were at. It made the girls feel loved.
It was the best thing that united us spiritualy. And the presidency learned to truely love all of the girls.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 11:51 am


I was the Laurel class president up until two months ago when Bishop released me and forced me into Relief Society, leaving all my friends behind in Young Women's. It was a sad day.

It wasn't hard for my Laurels to be united..there were only six of us and we were all friends. But when we'd see eachother in the halls at school we'd say "Hi" and we all went to Seminary together during lunch. We'd carpool to and from the midweek activities, and call each person in the class to remind them of the activity so they'd have a chance to go if they forgot.

We also made sure to plan activities that would be fun for all the girls, and not just one or two of us. We'd have monthly planning meetings with the presidency, but since the other two girls were siblings of one of the other girls they came too, so we got input from everyone who'd be going.

For birthdays we'd make candy cards and bake them cookies, and we'd have a little party for new Laurels.

Ooh how I miss being in Young Women's. cry

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lilmormgirl

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 8:09 pm


I am the miamaid president and also got assigned as the laurel pres for resons and its been like this for about a year..... and we personnaly never had problems with friendships and unity but that dosent mean we have hed problems. We are all friends and really closewhich is because all our girls love to meet knew people and make new friends. There are 8 active members wich contain 2 sets of 2 sisters, and 4 that come about 3 times a month. In all we have about 13 main girls and a few inactive girls.
But we always have activities were we can talk to each other. From doing sevice to crafts we always find a way to talk. Also we like to have getting-to-know-you activites.
But for new people my 1st councelor and kinda set up a system withoug knowing it. Its just our nature to do certain things. But usually my 1st talk to her first and introduces herself and makes sure she has someone to show her were to go and im usually there and introduce my self. But mainly my job is to bring there fun sides out. Now dont know abotu you but i found out when you get a person to laugh they tend to open up a little more. So i make the person laugh and joke around with them and then i find out what they like, there intrest etc. Then find out who they had most in common with which ususally means they will open up more to that person or i set them in a room witht the girls and then the girls find what all of them have in common. Then it usually goes pritty smooth from there.
Also as it is important that your groups ( beeehives, miamains, laurals) are close. In my ward i found out it was better when all the groups were really close insead of the groups separate groups. Beacause that in it's self makes your yw seem like a whole then in cliques. I also saw that when you talk to someone younger than you and stuff you become a part of there life and then they look up to you than in you were in you clique could become a role model in someones life. I think its cool to think that you can make a difference in one of the girls life. I found that this really helps with unity and friendship.
But it is pritty important to get the girls to except people now matter what and open them up. ANd one way to do this is to get them out of there confort zone or cometimes out of yours. In fact I used to be a REALLY SHY person infact i used to be to shy to get up and sharpen my pencil. But by getting theses girls closer ive opened up more.
Also about girls with problems ( spiritual or what ever) I had and have girls who had problems with guys flirt and so on and others. So i whould say things and mention thing that a prophet said or my opinion in the subject but make sure it was descrete. Or you get the group to change subjects and then everyone else voices there opinion with out giving away that girl. Which worked out for me... Also happening to watch movies concerning that subject saying how it was bad and how to change and repent. etc. But if It goes further i would just mention a little something to the Bishop (but leaving it maingly up to the girl .. it is her problem) llike to keep his eye on her or tell him if a girl might end up comeing to see him but not to say enough that im in her life... because it is her life and problem and i shouldn'et be in it.
Well im just been blabbing away and if dosent make sence im sorry its late here and im tired. Soo ill just shut up now.
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:57 pm


concerning the new issue I'm the miamaid president and reading everyones posts it sounds like you all have so many ppl but maybe thats just because there's only one other miamaid in my ward.

any how...ok so this extra flirty girl. Have you tried thinking from her position try everything you can to make her innocent in your eyes. I personally think I could possibly be grouped with this girl however you made her sound awful... anyways there is always a chance that like me she honestly doesn't even realize what she's doing. I personaly try to just be really nice but my mom pointed out to me that there is a teacher a year younger than me that my mom thinks likes me I don't try to make him like me but my mom still thinks he likes me. He isn't the only one either I don't try to hurt them but I'm not interested in most of them and when I do like someone I tend more often to ignore them redface haha but just always do your best to make her innocent in your eyes
don't worry about the mote in her eye first get the beam out of yours (not saying you have a beam in your eye just slightly quoting scripture and my seminary teacher from last year.) so yeah just try not to judge her if you do that it's sortof like pushing her down it starts you on the pride cycle not a fun place to be

good luck I'm sure everything will be fine

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AutumnFalls89

PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 7:53 am


SAdly Sandy I don't think that is what she is doing. She talks about "going after" a certain guy one week and then how she's "giving up on him" or "he's too....." and stuff like that. I wish it was in ignorance but I don't think it is. She knows that she is flirting but she doesn't realize that it can hurt a guy's feelings (or perhaps she doesn't care i don't know)
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