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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:00 pm
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/01/07/nissan-gt-r-specv-unveiled/
And it's OVER $150,000!
*Laughs.* It looks a lot better, but what happened to all the fanboys saying it was going to weigh 300-500 lbs less? I'm pretty sure the ZR1 will still rip this thing in the real world of normal people racing on the highway.
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:42 pm
For the price tag, honestly, I was expecting them to do much, much more than just that. Dissapointing. Ah well. I look forward to taking this bugger on round the 'course with two cylinders and a turbocharger less. Even today the Lotus principle(of light weight and low peak figures allowing for better overall performance) holds true. Nismo and Autech could learn from this.
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:07 am
Or you can go GM, and Mopar and do light weight and high power? razz *Is being facetious.*
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:36 am
I'd rather go for the optimum power-to-weight, with the design specification being drawn up around both wet weight CG AND polar moment of inertia before engine output. That basically means THE smallest, square-stroke, production alloy block available which will fit into the smallest and lightest platform that will accept it regardless of branding.
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:44 am
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:47 am
Holy ginormous pictures, Batman! I have to scroll just to hit the reply button! razz
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:49 am
Congratulations, you've just found the thing that haunts my existence through sprint after sprint after sprint. See that finny thing under it that looks like a mini diffuser? That's the SUMP. How low is that? AND. These things can be road-rego.
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:58 am
Millefune Holy ginormous pictures, Batman! I have to scroll just to hit the reply button! razz Sorry Robin, I just didn't know how big it was going to be. My broswer tricked me. D; Joey Crash Congratulations, you've just found the thing that haunts my existence through sprint after sprint after sprint. See that finny thing under it that looks like a mini diffuser? That's the SUMP. How low is that? AND. These things can be road-rego. rego? Yes that is a very very very low sump, if I had one of those I'd probably go to the trouble of making a sump gaurd, I want to make one for my Alfa, because it actually sticks out infront of the car. O_o Why not turn to the dark side and get one?
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:28 am
Because I can't use RWD for sh!t... xd I learned how to drive using FWD, then went to 4WD and never looked back. My only experience with RWD was with the Supra, and it was damn near uncontrollable to me; I've lived with understeer forever, and going to RWD all of a sudden would be a whole new ball game.
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:46 am
Tell me about it. The first time I drove a high-powered RWD car, I spun out.
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:38 am
I've yet to drive a rwd car on the edge of its grip capabilities, but either way oversteer is fun. My dad's 190E Merc and my Alfa are so much more fun to drive that I've driven thats front wheel drive. Though knowing what I know now, if I was to get into that Mini Cooper I drove waaay back, I might have more fun in that car, probably only because its so new.
I'd say oversteer in a FF is waaaay more scary than oversteer in a FR. If the FF car is planted enough it seems to be ok, I've never been driving when oversteer was induced, and when it was they where on rather firm platforms. When I was driving my mom's old 80something Honda Ballade (Civic), I was driving with a full car of people, driving at about or just under 80km/h which was the speed limit, I turned in, and the back end came way out, and it was a night mare to try and correct. I didn't know what to do and the car fish tailed back and forth once or twice before I caught it. Very very scary.
And then more reciently on a rainy night, I was driving from work to a friends house party. The car got a sideways in one corner, caught it and brought it back smoothly, thought I had the hang of it and did it on purpose in the next corner and probably the one after that, then on a blind corner, I gave it too much boot and the back end came out, slid me into the oncoming traffic lane as a bus was comming my way. God must have sent an angel to come and look after me, because luckily I was able to counter steer and slide the car back into the other lane. Both incidents where scary, but I felt less paniced in the merc. What the car did was somewhat predictable, and thus easier to control.
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:21 am
Quote: Tell me about it. The first time I drove a high-powered RWD car, I spun out. Same here LOL. Quote: I'd say oversteer in a FF is waaaay more scary than oversteer in a FR. It seems to be reversed from RWD, the way to catch it. Unless it's that bloody Civic that Chris from Centerline went and did up for lift-off oversteer a few years back: I SWEAR the damn thing goes sideways just like a Sprinter on both bald back tyres and crack!
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:29 pm
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:57 pm
So they made it faster and, by the looks of it, outfitted it with some horribly ugly wheels. Honestly, those look like the ones we sell to the customer with the '91 Ford Taurus that thinks they look phat - whatever that means. The base GT-R wheels look much better than those, and I don't even like those, either. The car needs LMGT4s, or those new LMZ5s they just released for the 370Z. Those look infinitely better.
Also, this Spec-V looks even more like a spaceship to me than the original. I can't help but think the designers at Autech were playing Halo when they came up with these renovations, infiltrating the Truth and Reconciliation to save Captain Keys from the Covenant menace. That's not a car, it's an alien battle cruiser from the planet Vorb, home to creatures with no knowledge of automotive design.
I'm disappointed; utterly disappointed. Drive this car through a nursery and it will make babies cry. Okay, here's what I really think about the car. Autech's taken the GT-R and done to it (cosmetically) what any good for nothing, driver's seat fully reclined, backwards hat with the pricetag still on it wearing thug could do. They've riced it out, son.
To think, Nissan's chance to seat themselves in the throne of world dominating glory and they came up with THAT. I don't even know how fast it is yet and I'm already angry, just by how it looks!
Anyways, I've already established that if I were given the opportunity to purchase a car for $100,000 it would be the Corvette ZR1. It's purer, plain and simple. If I suddenly took the helm over at Nissan headquarters, I'll tell you what I'd do. I'd take that glorious drivetrain and put it in a proper car like the Z.
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:20 pm
Hell yeah. And for the price of the V_Spec. Dear gawd, I'd just order a Radical LM, option it out with the 460hp engine and full composite body, and still be quicker than both the 'Vette and Nissan(the Radical set the 'Ring record with the 260hp engine option, beating both cars by near a minute) If it can be RWC in Australia, it would literally be THE quickest car on the road, period.
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