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 Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 12:55 pm
Has anyone gotten any good numbers for pre-reqs for the 25-man content (in paritcular naxx) and what order is the raid progression? (IE: BC it was Kara, Gruuls/Mags, SSC/TK, Mt.H/BT, SWP).
I'm a restro druid, and so far from what I've seen healers need 1.5 +healing and over 400 regen while casting, or mana replenish in raid, with around 13k health and 15k mana. This is coming from epics/badge gear from heroics and the such, and from a tree perspective.
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:03 pm
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:48 pm
Just reiterating that I am not kidding, hit level 80, get some decent gear (ie; have your tank run a couple heroics and get crit capped and let everyone flail around in quest gear) and you will down atleast a couple wings. It's already being pugged en masse on my server.
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:54 am
After doing 10 man naxx, I feel that my guild's DPS needs more gear. We hit enrage timers that night, and did abomination wing in 1.5 nights (left Thadius for the next night). Took 3 tries on Anu'barak. All of the fights put me and my heal team at a strain (we had no replenish classes, however). Both me and the boomkin have the glyph of innervate so we could at least share our cool down with others, and the restro shama had mana tide, but at some times it still wasn't enough between the pot cool down (uhg dumb idea blizz) and all our tricks.
Our tanks, however, are sexy. Rashul, Kacia, Urt, Dakeyras. They took the hits like champs on the various nights. Our only DPS that is geared to the max (needing Naxx and 25 man gear basically) is our rogue Birc and maybe our lead hunter Rubica.
Other then that, I think slowly we'll get there. It seems from what people have been saying that 25-man is easier then 10.
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:03 pm
My DK just dinged a few days ago and I had a friend do heroic runs, so most of my gear is heroic and crafted/quested. No greens at all. Hit capped and putting out nearly 2k dps on my own.
Our tanks are crit capped and have decent amounts of health and our healers are at least in quested blues and some crafted epics. Yet we can't even do 10man because of one thing: no one has the ability to follow a simple strat. So really, on top of being 80 and in decent gear, I'd suggest brains.
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 3:09 pm
Sound of Wolf After doing 10 man naxx, I feel that my guild's DPS needs more gear. We hit enrage timers that night, and did abomination wing in 1.5 nights (left Thadius for the next night). Took 3 tries on Anu'barak. All of the fights put me and my heal team at a strain (we had no replenish classes, however). Both me and the boomkin have the glyph of innervate so we could at least share our cool down with others, and the restro shama had mana tide, but at some times it still wasn't enough between the pot cool down (uhg dumb idea blizz) and all our tricks. Our tanks, however, are sexy. Rashul, Kacia, Urt, Dakeyras. They took the hits like champs on the various nights. Our only DPS that is geared to the max (needing Naxx and 25 man gear basically) is our rogue Birc and maybe our lead hunter Rubica. Other then that, I think slowly we'll get there. It seems from what people have been saying that 25-man is easier then 10. 10 man is harder than 25 man by leaps and bounds, especially some particularly heal intensive encounters. Malygos, for example, cannot be done without 20k+ hp or a priest/druid. I did it for the first time last night and ran OOM whereas on 25 man I didn't come close. First time I did Sapph on 10 man we used 4 healers, 3 less than we use on 25.
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:45 pm
Requirement: Don't be an idiot.
Last night: 4 wipes on Thaddius due to people not being able to jump platforms and not knowing which is left/right for polarities.
Tonight: 11 wipes on Heigan because people can't dance.
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:13 pm
Heitaki Tonight: 11 wipes on Heigan because people can't dance. >_< Ouch. We just kick our apps out that can't heigan dance problem solved for us...
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Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 5:52 am
So far really enjoying the challenge that the difference of 10 and 25 man are posing in all the raids. Can't wait till the release the next set of raids and achievements.
On a side note, I will have my proto-drake from heroic dungeons! D: Even if Oculus kills me.
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:22 pm
only thing i can say is patchwerk 25man ver is a tank and heals check. dramallama
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:03 am
You need 25 bodies that aren't completely retarded.... My guild cleared it in one night after hitting 80, the only fight that we wiped on more then twice was Thaddius because the 5 people my guild carries that have a raider position because they are nice are beyond horrible.
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 10:24 am
Indigogold Heitaki Tonight: 11 wipes on Heigan because people can't dance. >_< Ouch. We just kick our apps out that can't heigan dance problem solved for us... apparently there is a trick that was used in the old naxx
where the mele and tanks stand in one corner of the platform and the casters on the other side, diagonally
it still works =]
but when it came time for all of us to dance, 1/2 of the casters would get there too eairly and get hit by the poison
so if you choose to do this old trick, then make sure the casters only move down once the mele is by them ^_^
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:00 pm
i've got some questions on Naxx
k i've pugged all wings except frostwyrm lair but i've joined a guild and am a trial member now and don't want to screw up when they ask me to things i'm not experienced doing
first off
four horsemen, i've only healed the groups at the front and am not sure what to do if i'm told to heal in the back, do i stay near a tank and cross with to the middle with him with the marks or do i stay in the middle and attempt to heal both tanks while staying out of range of the marks? for both 25 and 10 man...
also, when i'm healing one of the front groups and the 2 front horsemen are down the front groups run to the back, do i stay with my tank switching with marks? or again stay out of range of marks in the middle (if thats even possible)
then for grand widow, i have like no +hit (25) so when i'm to mc a mob to disenrage her how many seconds should i do this before the enrage to be safe?
k
thx
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:28 pm
Starcus i've got some questions on Naxx k i've pugged all wings except frostwyrm lair but i've joined a guild and am a trial member now and don't want to screw up when they ask me to things i'm not experienced doing first off four horsemen, i've only healed the groups at the front and am not sure what to do if i'm told to heal in the back, do i stay near a tank and cross with to the middle with him with the marks or do i stay in the middle and attempt to heal both tanks while staying out of range of the marks? for both 25 and 10 man... also, when i'm healing one of the front groups and the 2 front horsemen are down the front groups run to the back, do i stay with my tank switching with marks? or again stay out of range of marks in the middle (if thats even possible) then for grand widow, i have like no +hit (25) so when i'm to mc a mob to disenrage her how many seconds should i do this before the enrage to be safe? k thx Paladins work better in the back but here's a graff:  basically: 1-2 healers go in the back (we use one per tank, but we use 5 healers in naxx) and they heal the tank and themselves. switch with your tank. when the frost two are down i smite because there's practically no healing to be done. All MCing should be done with a shadowpriest, I've never done MCs on Faerlina so I couldn't tell you but if you don't have a shadowpriest available in your guild you'll want to do it about 5-10 before the cooldown is up - she wont enrage right away as soon as the cooldown pops. you'll have to MC on Razuvious probably, it's fairly easy but like I said people with hit rating should probably do it (I have a capped set of my tier 6 gear with hit rating gems in it and a hit weapon with a titanium weapon chain on it, lulz)
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:47 am
lolol thanks for the diagram!
and razuvious is the fight i'm worried about most ;a; thankfully my guild is on a break from raiding till after new years so hopefully i can practice tanking with the mob this week in a pug, with my awesome 25 hit rating
would you reccomend buying crappy armour with gem slows from the ah and filling them with +hit gems?
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