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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:40 pm


Figured this might be an interesting topic of discussion for us all.
Most say these creatures dont exist, some say they do.
Anything from Unicorns to Werewolves, Bring your sites, witnesses, information in general. Just make sure its not hokey.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:04 pm


I know for a fact Vampires are real (No this has nothing to do with Twilight)

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:36 pm


Ive seen faeries... they have thier own realm, and summoned a dragon from the south. IT flew right over me!!! beautiful one too!!! ...

I've felt, seen, and heard ghosts.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:59 pm


Well, I can't say I've ever found any sufficient evidence for existence of such creatures, but I do believe they exist, just that people haven't found discovered them yet.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:58 pm


I am a believer in all sort of things like ghost, vampire, etc. I seen and felt the presence of ghost and I see shadow people. I know that dragons are real because even though most people don't believe in dragons, most christians can show you where the bible itself mentioned dragons. most of the people in this clan believe in witches and scientist have discovered creatures that were suppose to be 'myths'.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 1:41 pm


Vampires deffinately are real. I donated my blood to one, non-medically. She was sanguarian. My friend jon is a hybrid psi/sanguarian vampyre. The same thing goes for them as it does for us. Witches don't fly on broomsticks, and vampires don't turn into bats. As for magical creatures that aren't also human (such as witches, vampires, elvans(elves), etc), I don't believe that they exist on the physical plane. I believe that they have energies that represent them on the physical plane and that they reside in the astral planes. Another interesting thought: how many physical planes do you believe there are? If there are more than one, do you believe there are alternate universes with alternate versions of ourselves, or are there completely different life forces, is it in a different time phrame (past, present, future, day or night timed diffrently, etc.), or a mixture of all or a few of them?
As for the biblical reference: I hate to burst your bubble, but most things in the bible are rather phoney, and proven to be so. The bible has created unrealistic and flat explenations for things. For example: gender roles are instructions that create flat characters such as adam and eve; and the world was obviously not created in 7 days. If it takes a woman 9 months to have a baby, it probably took our mother, Earth, over 9 million years to create the world inside of it. Also, scientists are far behind wiccans, afterall, we discovered energies long before they did! Not to say the bible and science aren't recomendable things to learn from, but that I doubt that they would prove pagan creatures to be true, even if it were possible, which is doubtful in most cases.
As for people who can see these creatures, this is easily explained. You obviously have the gift of seeing creatures from other planes! As for the ones discovered by scientists, none of these animals have supernatural powers, other than their long lifespans and how ancient their line of ancestory is; which really isn't unpredictable of mother nature to create such fascinating beings here on the physical plane.
Everyone is entitled to their opinions, and probably think mine are a bit radical. That's okay. There's this old japanese proverb that goes: A theory is something that the creator believes and everyone else doubts; an experiment is something everyone believes except for the creator. I'd rather have my theories and allow people their theories instead of ruining it all by tampering too much with what we should be greatful for: these beautiful creatures existing at all.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:53 pm


Well, you never know if the world was created in 7 days or not. A lot people who pratice witchcraft believe in different power level so there is a possiblity that there is a stronger being who is able to perform such action though the world was actually created in 6 days....the 7th day was a day of rest Sabbeth or however you spell it. I believe there can be more then a one physical plane. There could be other versions of us that could be exactly like us or they can be the exact opposite of us. I am a nice polite bi guy who is anti-war. There can be another like me that is rude, and mean who love war. No one knows for sure.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:39 pm


i've felt and seen apparitions,
i have a phobia for werewolves so i believe they exist
and as for other creatures, if they exist then they do, or else it's just adults conjuring up creatures to scare children cool

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:13 am


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Well, you never know if the world was created in 7 days or not. A lot people who pratice witchcraft believe in different power level so there is a possiblity that there is a stronger being who is able to perform such action though the world was actually created in 6 days....the 7th day was a day of rest Sabbeth or however you spell it. I believe there can be more then a one physical plane. There could be other versions of us that could be exactly like us or they can be the exact opposite of us. I am a nice polite bi guy who is anti-war. There can be another like me that is rude, and mean who love war. No one knows for sure.


Most wiccans believe that mother earth created humans as a microchosm of the earth we reside in, which suggests that if a pregnant woman takes nine months to have a child (with the exception of premature and delayed birth), the approximate length in years (measured to a converted scale) would be about anywhere from 9 million to 90 million years. It may be supernaturally possible for our earth to be created in 7 days, but it is scientifically impossible. Not to mention, the bible also suggests that the world has only been around for a couple of thousand years and that the sun, moon and stars were in the earth on our sky which suggested that (before recent discovery in the last 800 to 900 years) there were no other planets, which isn't true; other planets, outer terrestrials and the fact that igneous and sedimentary rock have been discovered to have lasted for about 2.6 billion years, proves the bible wrong. Most wiccans also believe that the Earth is the source of all supernatural energy since it holds life; wiccans are divided in the arguement about whether the Earth has simply existed forever and was never created or whether it created itself through an extremely long and tedious birth-cycle simular to the idea of a human womb (which is why the sabbat wheel revolves around seasons, crops, and fertility: the earth is, in theory, synonamous with the womb of us all).
PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:26 am


Forgive me for being so extensive and argumentative; I had not meant to come across as agressive or hostile: I was simply opening discussion and I would like to hear complex theories that anyone else may have. I did pass my theology course with flying colors, you know...
Sorry again, not trying to show off, just proving my qualifications.
BTW: Theology isn't mind control. Most people didn't agree with eachother in my classess, but they respected eachothers differences and had civil debates (which I think were really fun). Most of us got along really well outside of the classess, and we even had fun laughing and stuff during classess, too. I hope this can be something like that.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:46 am


arachno-sama
i've felt and seen apparitions,
i have a phobia for werewolves so i believe they exist
and as for other creatures, if they exist then they do, or else it's just adults conjuring up creatures to scare children cool


As I've said, werewolves derive from human beings and are technically human. They aren't scary either. Just like vampires and witches, they don't follow stereotype. Witches don't fly brooms. Vampires don't turn into bats. Werewolves don't turn into wolves (not physically anyways, some believe that they can on the astral plane). Werewolves are human beings with wolf-like tendencies. They are most alive at night and love the moon. Their sexual cycle revolves around the moon, and they are extremely hightened and aware on a night of the full moon (sorry if that was innapropriate, I don't try to offend, I just speak the truth). They are most likely nocturnal and/or have insomnia (like vampires). They are agressive, passionate, loud, mirthful (love to laugh) and probably couldn't be vegitairan if their lives depended on it (they can't help it, it's their awesome style). They are very protective of family and friends and are quite authoritative in most situations and absolutely love the winter. Their most lively month is June and their calmest, most sensual month is January. They love to nurture their lovers, are very trustworthy and will always have your back if you are good to them; they are very loyal to those they feel deserve it.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:16 pm


These are some very interesting theories, and I have to agree with you, Pakhit, on there being multiple planes or realms. I have felt the thinning of these barriers on the solstices and such.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:07 pm


Hahaha, The more I read of yours Pakhit the more I realize I have to add you to my friends hahaha. I completely agree with everything youve thrown out theologically.
Now, How Feasible are these creatures?
BTW. Anyone read Sherilyn Kenyon?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:50 pm


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Hahaha, The more I read of yours Pakhit the more I realize I have to add you to my friends hahaha. I completely agree with everything youve thrown out theologically.
Now, How Feasible are these creatures?
BTW. Anyone read Sherilyn Kenyon?


Author of dream chaser? I haven't read her works, myself, but friends of mine have talked about her. I think I may read a few of her books someday.
These creatures are most certainly feasible; on other planes, at least. It's plausable that the energies you attract and the spiritual associations that you have with other creatures are those which determine if you can contact their spirit through the several astral planes. At least, that's what I am sure of, it's certainly debatable.


ETA: Oh... you meant the homosapian stemmed parafanalia? The likliness that people can be born simply human and ultra-human, or of advanced spiritual species? I don't have any hard core theories for that, actually. However, as I've sad, I myself must believe what I know to be true. I've met them, a few of my friends are vampyric. I myself am somewhat were-cat. I do not associate with it on the astral plane (though someday I might) but I have a minimal amount of characteristics. I'm very flexible, I purr instead of snore, when I'm really cozy I tend to curl up into a ball, nuzzle my nose into a blanket, shoulder or someone's neck, make a whimpering "meow"-like sound and fall to sleep...then proceed to snore. I'm not deceptive or dishonest like cats tend to be associated with, but I am cunning and mischevious; I pull pranks and get away with things and plot and keep other people's secrets and tease people for humor. I also would rather curl up by the fire place and read a favorite book rather than go to a wild party (although I will if it's for a friends or one that I am hosting), as I've said, that's what I would rather though.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:55 pm


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These are some very interesting theories, and I have to agree with you, Pakhit, on there being multiple planes or realms. I have felt the thinning of these barriers on the solstices and such.


I feel the deterioration of the hypothetical walls and expanding of the barriers most on Samhain night. Said, "Sah-when" or "Sa-ween". Why the *mh* makes a "wuh" sound, not a clue! It could be that it's from old english (most likely), stemmed from a germanic form instead of completely latin, or it could be that people simply couldn't spell worth crap years ago... haha, just kidding about that last bit.
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