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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 6:32 pm
I figure the first thing we need to do is come up with a fair stat sheet for Goku... as the n00bs can't do this on thier own... I can try but I'll need help... The version I want to start out with is SS3 Goku, I'm leaving out GT because I do not know enough about the series and from what I can tell it is a bit inconsistant... No comparing him to Superman just us giving him a clear decent Stat Sheet. Goku BASE FORM Intellect:Below Average Has trouble with base level Technology Strength:2 tons It is easy to say that non-powered he could lift up a Car effortlessly Agility:Enhanced Human Speed:40 mph With out the use of Chi Goku is faster than a normal Human. Shown that he could out run a Sabretooth Tiger at a young age. Durability:Superhuman He has taken a pounding that a good deal of Super Heroes would die from. Endurance:Enhanced Human May fight a full 12 hours with out rest.
Super Saiyin Intellect:Below Average Has trouble with base level Technology, His cunning and Combat Tactics I'd place as Combat Skill. Strength:600 tons Taken from Freiza Saga Kaio-Ken x20 and x15 Strength and Speed for Super. (I Deduced this from using Math during the Frieza Saga after adding in Kaio-Ken x20 multiply his Power Level by 15 his power level is what is shown in the Freiza battle. SS1 does add to Strength and Speed it was obvious in the Episodes) Agility:Super Human Speed:Just under Mach 2 Again Kaio-Ken x20 and x15 for Super. With out the use of Chi Goku is faster than a normal Human. Shown that he could out run a Sabretooth Tiger at a young age. Durability:Superhuman He got knocked clean through mountains and was still up and fighting. Endurance:Enhanced Human May fight a full 12 hours with out rest. Note: When first generated it was said that the Super Saiyins, Goku, Vegita, Gohan and Trunks could only keep Super Saiyin up for a short amount of time before going back to Base Form. No information is given on how long this form could be used.
Super Saiyin 2 (Accended Saiyin) Intellect:Below Average Has trouble with base level Technology, His cunning and Combat Tactics I'd place as Combat Skill. Strength:900 tons Taken from Freiza Saga Kaio-Ken x20 and x15 Strength and Speed for Super. (Based from what I've seen and have been told Strength and Speed do not change much in this form at most I'd give a 50% increase in strength.) Agility:Super Human Speed:Just over Mach 2 I'd give Goku a burst of speed as well. Durability:Superhuman He got knocked clean through mountains and was still up and fighting. Endurance:Super Human May fight a more than 12 hours with out rest. Note: In this form a Saiyin may stay in Super Saiyin form for quite some time with out being forced to go back to Base Form.
Combat Skills: Genius level at analyzing combat and strategy, extensive martial arts training, and ki manipulation.
Powers/Techniques: - Altered Form (Oozaru): The ability to turn into a 50' tall giant monkey, in this form Goku's strength is increased by x10, his durability is also increased based of added mass. - Photographic Reflexes:The Ability to learn a new move by seeing it done once. -Kamehameha: concentrated ki-wave attack, [also 10 times kamehameha used in SSj4 form] - After-Image: can move fast enough to leave multiple Images of himself. -Taioken/Solar: flare-blinding flash of light -Energy barrier: creates a shield of ki -Renzoku Energy Dan: machine gun ki-blast attacks -Kaio-ken: multiplies the user's power level by a factor. Max seen is 20. Normal is 1.5. (also Super kaioken-using this ability in ss form) -Genki Dama/Spirit bomb: borrows the energy of surroundings to form a massive ball of energy. -Zenkai: Gets stronger each time he takes near fatal to fatal damage. - Altered Form(Super Saiyin):The Ability to go to Super Saiyin Form up to 4 levels -Instant Transmission: teleport to a given spot, or area with ki, also gives the user superspeed up to lightspeed. -IT kamehameha: teleport directly in front of an opponent to unleash the attack. - Fuzion Dance: The ability to merge into a gestalt with another of similer height and power. The two share techniques and have an increase of Power, Strength and Speed. -Dragonfist: uses eternal dragon's power to launch a powerful punch
Hows this so far?
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 7:34 pm
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 7:38 pm
*Can't resist. Does his best Uncle from the Jackie Chan cartoon* One more thing!
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 7:54 pm
Just as a point of fact, SSj3 Goku is stronger than he displays in the show, he can't use his full power because he's in the living realm.
I've got a bit of info, and I believe most of it is correct.
Intellect-Genius level at analyzing combat and strategy, fairly low outside of that. Examples-Staying in Super Saiyan form, showing Gohan all of Cell's moves under the guise of fighting, conserving energy, combining attacks (IT kamehameha), analyzing and finding weaknesses in an attack (piccon's thunder flash).*
Strength-He can, literally, rip apart the planet just by powering up, which is why he couldn't use full power against Kid Buu or Fat Buu.
Agility-shown to dodge attacks without even appearing to move (Ginyu force battles in base form), full mobility on air, ground, and in water.
Speed-Unknown, but they do exceed the speed of sound. Note, instant transmission, despite what the dub says, is exact teleportation. He just disappears and reappears. It can be used to teleport right in front of an opponent with devastating results (IT kamehameha, battle with Cell).
Durability-deflected blasts capable of destroying planets, absorbed physical damage from someone just as powerful as he is. (Buu saga)
Endurance-this one's a kicker. the SSj3 form can't be maintained for very long, whereas SS and ssj2 appeared to be able to be maintained indefinitely. I don't remember the exact time limit though.
Combat skills-extensive martial arts training, ki manipulation, flight
Powers/Techniques- -Instant Transmission-teleport to a given spot, or area with ki. -Kamehameha-concentrated ki-wave attack, [also 10 times kamehameha used in SSj4 form] -IT kamehameha-teleport directly in front of an opponent to unleash the attack. -Kaio-ken-multiplies the user's power level by a factor. Max seen is 20. Normal is 1.5. (also Super kaioken-using this ability in ss form) -Renzoku Energy Dan-machine gun ki-blast attacks -after image technique-move extremely fast to create illusory duplicates -Dragonfist-uses eternal dragon's power to launch a powerful punch -Energy barrier-creates a shield of ki -Taioken/Solar flare-blinding flash of light -Genki Dama/Spirit bomb-borrows the energy of surroundings to form a massive ball of energy.
*those who say that Vegeta had to tell him to use the Genki Dama against Buu and that makes him stupid are wrong in my opinion.
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Harbinger of Pandamonium Crew
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 9:54 pm
Well, Vegeta did have to tell him to use it... he never thought it would work. In that case, it proves that Goku isn't the fighting genius people think he is. That also has nothing to do with Vegeta stalling for time while Goku charges, it's two seperate things.
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 10:16 pm
Sorce Well, Vegeta did have to tell him to use it... he never thought it would work. In that case, it proves that Goku isn't the fighting genius people think he is. That also has nothing to do with Vegeta stalling for time while Goku charges, it's two seperate things. Fine. I'll take edit out. It was just my opinion on it all.
Though I still think he was factoring in the time it would take to charge and discarding it because of that.
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Harbinger of Pandamonium Crew
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 6:04 pm
I don't think thre's actually a good example of his non-pwered up durability. confused
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 6:28 pm
Jak Sacul I don't think thre's actually a good example of his non-pwered up durability. confused Hmm, there's being hit on the head with an axe with no effect, Gohan stopping a car with no effort, Raditz catching a bullet with no effort.
granted none of those are damage on the scale he'll be fighting in, but I'll try to think of more or look them up later.
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Harbinger of Pandamonium Crew
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:28 pm
Ok now it looks a bit better.
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:23 pm
Added Super Saiyin 2. Now racking my brain on Super 3
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 4:29 pm
Question for all of you who actually watch Dragonball Z. How accurate is this "representation?" Titled: Summary of Dragonball Z
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:02 pm
Fairly accurate up to the Saiyan Saga. 3nodding
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 2:28 am
Phoenix315 Fairly accurate up to the Saiyan Saga. 3nodding impressive... blaugh
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