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Most people i've come across are the other way round - love cg work, but practically ignore stuff in coloured pencil for example, because it's not so 'shiny' and 'clean-looking'. Which is a bummer for me seen as i can't cg to save my life.
rolleyes I've had that problem too. People often come to my shop only wanting CG art, when traditional art is just as good.
yeah, but you guys are talkin' about people online who come to you online for art. people online, especially on a site like Gaia which no matter what is anime-based, are going to be fine with CG-art or even prefer it.
i know a lot of people who seriously dislike CG (which, while i'm on the subject, stands for
"computer graphics" and is what i like to call a
"big fat greasy stinky misnomer" when applied to colouring technique) for a few very valid reasons:
1. Computer art is not tangible.you can print it out, but all you have is ink on a piece of paper where you personally did not put ink on a piece of paper. (see #4.)
2. The cheating factor.frankly, a lot of people just have it stuck in their heads that the computer does all the real work for you.
all of that nice blur tool work you do on photoshop? on a big canvas, with oil paint, that s**t takes a ridiculous amount of time, believe you me. all of those cool spidery or grungy brushes you can get where otherwise you'd have to do all those effects by hand? well, uh, you do them by hand otherwise.
there's a sort of connoisseurship inherent in real artsnobbery, which makes us artfags look like the weenie little commercial sellouts that we sometimes are, by which i mean myself.
stuff like, "If you don't do it the real way/hard way/the way people have been doing it for SEVERAL HUNDRED YEARS (and it was fine for them/cavemen/Da Vinci/my grandpappy and by jiminy it's fine for me), then you're a big fat cheater and we don't want you anyway."
has anyone read
The Truth by Terry Pratchet? you know all the fuss the engraver's guild makes about the printing press? that, kids, is Pratchet's sociopolitical commentary on the uprising that is Computer Art, and you can quote me on that one.
3. Computer art does not document the process.say what you like, saving in-progress copies as you work is not the same thing.
one of the wonderful wonderful things about oil paint, for instance, is that nearly all of the process is right there on the canvas in the form of layers of paint and glaze and varnish and all sorts of things.
aside from the whole permanence thing, which is related to Point Number One up there and leads into Point Number Four, there's just something classically delicious about knowing that in a couple hundred years they'll be able to X-ray that painting and tell exactly how you did it.
4. Permanence.as in, there ain't any.
here are the easy ways to get rid of a painting on a canvas: you burn it or you can slice it up.
but since artists aren't made of money, you have to either hit it with a lot of turps or don't and then you begin a ridiculously long process of gessoing and waiting and sanding and gessoing again and waiting some more and then sanding again, and you do that a few more times and then you can use the canvas again.
all three of these options take effort and some willpower (it can be damned hard to gesso over a painting you've done even if you don't like it much) or possibly just a burst of artistic woe and insanity.
sure, you can just crumple up drawings and inks and watercolours and whatnot, but people are prone to showing off and givin' people little presents of things, or leaving doodles in other people's sketchbooks, and even if there's a fire something always survives.
whereas if something goes wrong with a few servers, or if in a few years something horrible and doomsdayish happens (which more people worry about than you'd think) then it's bye-bye pretty shiny picture done on Mister Wacom Tablet or whatnot.
as an amateur conspiracy theorist, i'm of the mind that we're pushing our luck as it is just using paper and canvas. the reason we have no paper records of ancient egypt is because they used, well paper. it all disintegrated. and i think Sumeria used dried clay tablets, which crumble in the rain let alone over a few thousand years. similar problems with ancient china and a dozen other ancient civilisations.
but we really take the cake. not only are we usin' paper, which anybody who's tried to read a really old dried out book can tell you is a bad idea in the long run, but invented The Internet- the absolute pinnacle of all things fleeting, abstract, intangible, ephemeral, an' otherwise
not really here.can any of you possibly imagine, in a few hundred years, alien races or advanced post-post-nuclear-holocaust humans tryin' to access our dippy little machines, such as may be left? be reasonable. how human-proof really is all this software? and by "human" i mean all sorts of things, up to and including napalm, splittin' atoms, and sittin' on the bottom of potential oceans, or gettin' swallowed up by earth quakes and all manner of natural and artificial hazards.
5. Real Media has seniority.no real refutin' this one. it really just has. painting drawing et al really have just been around a lot longer. (see Artsnob's Complaint in #1.)
don't get me wrong. i love photoshop and opencanvas and all their ilk. i have a wacom tablet and treat it with a mild sort of worshipful awe, if you ignore the whole frequently-losin'-the-pen thing.
but there really are some valid cons to the thing.
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