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deprived_shadow
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:57 pm


Mmmk For those of you in the US you all should know about the most retarded Proposition in the world. PROPOSITION 8 . For those of you who don't know Prop 8 is whether Gays should be allowed to marry or not. For those who want them to not be able to they would vote 'YES' on Prop 8. For those who want Gays to have every right others have they would vote 'NO'.

This is just a topic for your ideas on this subject. And yes California voted 'YES' on 8 ... -sighs- so stupid ...


Even if you're not in the US you can say what you want on this. Please give your ideas!

(check this website out for a friend of mine and his thoughts on Prop 8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qayKz-2hLEk )
PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:57 pm


This is just because I know that a lot of people from Australia, if they read this, are going to get incredibly confused, so here is what Wikipedia says on Prop 8 (I just quickly Googled it looking for the actual proposition, but I don't have a lot of time so if anyone could find it and post it that would be great)

Proposition 8 is a California State ballot proposition that would amend the state Constitution, to limit marriage to unions between a man and a woman, overturning a recent California Supreme Court decision that had recognized same-sex marriage in California as a fundamental right. The official ballot title language for Proposition 8 was, "Eliminates Right of Same-Sex Couples to Marry"

Arguments of Prop 8 Supporters (ie, people who want to ban gay marriage):

- to protect family values
- to protect what their children learn in school
- to keep marriage sacred in the eyes of the church

http://www.protectmarriage.com/

Arguments of those against Prop 8 (ie, people who believe there should be gay marriage in California):

- equal rights
- freedom of choice
- respecting others' decisions

http://www.noonprop8.com/

Note: Personally, I am AGAINST proposition 8. I believe that no matter who you love, you should be allowed to get married. And how does gay marriage even affect our lives? It's up to the couple in question whether or not they wish to be married; we have no right to tell them that they cannot. I know I've left out a TON of arguments, I'm just adding this to help clear things up for people who don't live in California in case they want to add their views. I am NOT a prop 8 supporter, and I think that passing it was wrong.

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deprived_shadow
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:22 pm


'DON'T HATE NO ON 8!' Is the slogan I have been repeating since the Prop came up! I know plenty on Gays and Lesbians, some are in my family and they deserve every right we have! California is taking a huge step BACKWARDS! We might as well now eliminate rights for blacks, asians, mexicans, etc. Cause thats were we're heading right now!
PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:37 pm


I'm NoOn8 as well. Its pure discrimination. Unfair. Most people I know that said 'yes' to it, their best excuse was, 'its against my religion' I fully agree with Lanas friend on youtube.

immortal_shadow_wolf
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deprived_shadow
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:17 pm


immortal_shadow_wolf
I'm NoOn8 as well. Its pure discrimination. Unfair. Most people I know that said 'yes' to it, their best excuse was, 'its against my religion' I fully agree with Lanas friend on youtube.


Yay ^ ^ I forgot to ask you on what you're position on 8 was... I'm glad we're on the same side x3
PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:20 pm


yeah, i watched dusty's video, that pretty mush explains it all, including the phone part....damn phone...

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deprived_shadow
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:26 pm


mitsukivampire
yeah, i watched dusty's video, that pretty mush explains it all, including the phone part....damn phone...


lol ya. Dusty did a good job of explaining the NoOnP8 thing... I like the name too cus it really describes how i feel right now... I'm proud to be an American... but really really ashamed to be a Californian ...
PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:42 pm


what ever happened to 'im proud to be an american, because at least i know im free

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deprived_shadow
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:47 pm


mitsukivampire
what ever happened to 'im proud to be an american, because at least i know im free


hey i said i was proud to be an American ... well for the most part ... All I said was that I was Ashamed to be a Californian ...
PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 6:54 pm


She means freedom of choice. It's a rhetorical question ... like what happened to American freedom? Can't gays and lesbians have the same rights we do type of thing ... she's not commenting on the fact that you are proud to be an American etc etc

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:19 pm


*FIRES TOAD CANNON* YOU HAVE BEEN TOADED!!!
PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 3:02 pm


stupid prop 8 passed. crying

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light_weilder

PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 3:23 am


well if gays and lesbian's can't get married why can strait couples I mean they're just different orientations...
PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 6:01 pm


*FIRES TOAD CANNON* YOU HAVE BEEN TOADED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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riya999

PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:19 pm


I have no idea why, but I just feel like posting on this forum... (?)

but anyways....since the topic's ready, I might as well say what I think.

To people who want to ban gay marriage

Do you honestly think that.....if you success on BANNING gay marriage or whatever, would that actually stop gays and lesbians' existance?????

the answer is obviouslly....NOOOO

as you would have known, in most countries and most states, gay marriage is still not legal. But, in ALL countries and ALL states, there are always gays and lesbians, or at least people who know that they love their same sex and just cannot admit it....

since banning won't stop or do anything, we might as well let all the people have what they want. Let them marry, don't go to their wedding if you don't like it, no one invited you!!!!
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