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 Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:50 am
Ooookay, again, this will be contraversial, but, gotta post it. FYI to those that don't already know, I'm a girl. Anyways, I'll post all about eating raw food when I have more time, but here's a little introduction for you, and I use it as motivation. http://rawfoodhowto.com/video-go-raw-now-markus-rothkranz.cfm
Sure, you have to balance out your eating or you could just become a very skinny mal-nutrient person without meat, but if you know how to do it right, you'll be on the most healthiest 'diet' ever. About meat!!! Heh-heh. So, we're the ONLY mammal out there that cooks its food . . . hmmm, well, the elephant and gorilla do not eat meat nor cook their food, but instead eat all raw greens and such. And they're the strongest things around! If I remember correctly, a gorilla can bench press 2,000 pounds? Cool. And have you ever eaten meat WITHOUT spices? EWWWWWW! NASTY stuff! Add the spices and we're okay! Umm, no. And meat can stay in your system sometimes for upto 15 days! Talk about rotting! I hate to think about it these days.
Dairy! Oh, do I love ice-cream, but I've found out that it has tons of mold in it! O_O Noooooooooo!!! TT^TT Crap! But a nice lady on here told me there is RAW ICE CREAM!!! I'm so happy, Sorry, I forgot your name '^_^ Dairy also clogs your system and was only for you when you're a baby. Milk from animals may have calcium, but it's the wrong kind. It actually makes brittle bones (and no it doesn't make you tall! I'm 5'2" for crying out loud! LOL), the calcium you actually need is from dark, leafy greens, like kale and collard. Yeah, they're bitter and I hate it when Mom buys them, but I eat it with tears still.
So, those are two of the biggest things to try and get rid of, I'll go over my books again and correct myself if need be, and I'll post on other food groups asap when I get the chance. But for now, that's all I have time for.
Most I ever went raw: about a week. But I'm a vegetarian now, at least. Go me.
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:06 am
I'll talk about how to make the switch here and how it should be done in a safe way.
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:10 pm
yay raw ice cream. heart
I actually love kale. It's so tasty. I'd be interested in following your transition to raw if you're willing to keep writing about it here.
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:09 pm
Yeah, I'll deffinatly start talking about the steps I'm doing to go raw. My first is no meat, but sadly, someone bought fast food yeasterday and I ate it TT^TT I was surprised at how heavy it seemed and I don't wish to do it again!!! It's very expensive to eat this way as well, but I'm going to do my best! Back to NO MEAT!XD I'm going to also cut out all processed sugars now. I'll stick to fruits. I got a bit carried away before on the sugar and ended up making myself really sick, if ya know what I mean. wink So, yeah. n_n
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:33 am
My whole family loves greens, kale, collard, turnip, all kinds. We are a family of five. I have three boys 6, 7, and 11. My 11 year old is autistic and tends to go semi-vegetarian every few months and it last for 2-3 months. It really seems to make a difference for him. All my kids ask for all fruit and veggie days. I don't keep them on it because I am worried about nutrition (mainly protein) for such young kids. I can't name a vegetable they wont eat. When they were born and they started on foods I only fed them home made organic vegetables. Mainly because no one knew what was wrong with Matthew at the time so the doctors had me do this. At first they thought it was allergies. And I figured if it was good for him then it was good for the others as well. I didn't even start them on fruit until much later because I wanted them to like there veggies.
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:28 pm
Wow, that's really that you do that for your children!!! I wish more mothers were that carring had had their kids on such a healthy 'diet'. n_n You're not soing anything wrong, so don't let anyone tell you that your kids are missing out on something, they aren't!!! XD
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:25 pm
I hang out around too many Ayurvedic practitioners to follow the Raw Diet way of thinking about food and health, but hey, if it works for you it works for you.
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:02 pm
Prince Gackt-sama Ooookay, again, this will be contraversial, but, gotta post it. Likewise. You probably won't like what I'm about to say, but hey... it's the truth. wink Quote: hmmm, well, the elephant and gorilla do not eat meat nor cook their food, but instead eat all raw greens and such. And they're the strongest things around! If I remember correctly, a gorilla can bench press 2,000 pounds? Cool. Physiologically, we are neither elephants nor gorillas. You're comparing apples to oranges. (Seriously - when's the last time you saw a human eat their own poop, like gorillas do? We're not as close to gorillas as some would like to think.) Quote: And have you ever eaten meat WITHOUT spices? EWWWWWW! NASTY stuff! Yes! It's delicious! Also, I like my beef rare. smile And I happen to find that a lot of plant foods are unpalatable without spices or cooking. Does this mean that eating vegetables isn't natural? Quote: Umm, no. And meat can stay in your system sometimes for upto 15 days! Talk about rotting! I hate to think about it these days. No. Meat digests like everything else. The "rots in the gut" bit is utter balony. Quote: Milk from animals may have calcium, but it's the wrong kind. It actually makes brittle bones (and no it doesn't make you tall! I'm 5'2" for crying out loud! LOL), the calcium you actually need is from dark, leafy greens, like kale and collard. Yeah, they're bitter and I hate it when Mom buys them, but I eat it with tears still. There is no such thing as "the wrong kind" of calcium. Milk has been linked to osteoporosis, yes. There are two theories: 1: An overload of calcium from the milk makes the body replace old calcium in the bones too quickly, wearing them out earlier. 2: Pasteurization kills enzymes in the milk that would allow our bodies to process it properly. (If this is true, then raw milk would be safe.) Quote: Most I ever went raw: about a week. But I'm a vegetarian now, at least. Go me. Good luck with your raw diet, but please be aware that raw foodists often try to back themselves up with mind-bogglingly ridiculous pseudoscience. I recommend this page for some excellent unbiased information on human anatomy and our natural diet. There's a lot of stuff to read, but if you're really and honestly interested in human health and physiology, it's a veritable goldmine.
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:36 am
biggrin Syera, when you're right, you're right.
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:05 pm
You can add that milk is high in phosphorus that prevents calcium absorption. I'd also like to point out, that while raw food is great, humans don't have the gut bacteria that herbivores do that helps them break down the cellulose in raw plants. Because of this, even though a raw carrot will have X amount of beta carotene, your body isn't going to get the full amount due to the inability to fully digest raw plant material. Cooking foods helps us digest it better, so even though cooking "kills" some of the nutrients, it also makes more available so that our body can absorb and use. As well as the bacteria, herbivores have developed other special things, such as super long digestive tubes, to help with plant matter. Human intestines may not be as short (body length comparison) to full on meat eaters, but human intestines won't hold nothing to herbivore intestines, which by comparison, are much longer. Herbivores also lack canines and have an elongated jaw with a diastema. The molars are also much wider to accommodate the extra necessary chewing. As well as some have whacky digestive habits - cows regurgitate their food to break down (cud) and I found out today that rabbits eat their poop. Yep, they have two types - one that can be eaten and another that can't be. Though, with all this nay saying, a diet should be what you feel is the right choice. :3 If this is what you feel is right, then by all means experiment. biggrin (My biology teacher would be so proud of me.)
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:12 am
*sniff* I'm proud of you. xd
Also, guinea pigs eat their poo in the same way rabbits do.
There are also a few other things I'd like to point out about the "naturalness" of an all-raw diet:
-We are the only animals who intentionally cook their food, yes. But we've had more than enough time to adapt to cooked foods. Also, keep in mind that humans aren't the 'only' animals to be the 'only' animals to do something. Consider how unique honeybees are: they are the only animals that build hives out of wax to store deposits of sugar.
-A lot of people play the "if it was made with tools, then it's not natural" card. But this is silly. Tools are nature to humans (and other hominids). And consider the otter: without its clever use of rocks, it couldn't eat the clams and mussels it loves so much.
-An all-raw diet of plants was most definitely not the diet of our ancestors for two reasons:
1: The plant foods necessary for an all-raw plant-based diet did not exist before the agricultural period. Pre-ag-era plant foods were far smaller and tougher. If you tried to find a banana 10,000 years ago, you'd be sorely disappointed when all you could find was a small turd-shaped fruit with very little soft matter, but very full of rock-hard seeds.
2: The plant foods it would have taken to get "complete protein" would have been limited to season and separated by miles. It also wouldn't have been available in substantial quantities, large-fruited grains and pulses having not yet been developed by farmers. How did primitive man get substantial energy, then? Most likely by gorging himself on raw meat, as primitive tribes in Africa have done into the modern era. (And I might add that these tribes are conspicuously virtually free of the diseases that our doctors blame on meat - and it's not because of lifespan.)
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 5:43 pm
as a veggie myself, I say if you want to eat your food raw go for it, but don't expect me too. One of the reasons I went veg is that I had gotten bored with the taste of meat. But in order to not have a boring diet, which as a foodie I choose death first, I have learned many healthy ways to cook and spice my foods. (trust me I make a killer stir-fry, and my miso soup is to die for.)
If you like raw food you like raw food, just don't use pseudo science to justify it.
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 2:46 pm
Good luck with your raw food journey. I am a raw foodist and I really enjoy my diet. Like others have said, do what is right for you!
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 2:54 pm
Also, I love how you imply that finding meat unappetizing without first seasoning it means that it doesn't actually belong in your diet, but somehow our main source of calcium should be from a type of food that many people find absolutely vile no matter what you do with it.
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Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 8:07 pm
@ xure - yay, I have a friend n_n
@ viridian - miso is my weakness O_O how dare you >w< don't even mention inari!!! >w<
@ syera - n_n http://www.paulnison.com/aboutpaul.htm Please read his about section there, althouggh it is very, very brief, his story is indeed amazing. This man (Paul Nison) has put out many books, the next time you go to the store, please pick up his book entitled The Raw Life. You can see what it looks like here: (2nd one down) http://www.paulnison.com/paulsbooks.htm Until then, have a sweet day! >w<
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