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 Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:52 pm
Heated discussion... I bet this will be.
God has given me a huge heart for the unborn children who are killed.
standtrue.com
abort73.com
This Christmas, I am spending alot of money. Not on my immediate family or close circle of friends, although they will get gifts too...
But I am getting a group of my friends to buy gifts for the unborn children at that are about to be murdered, and their mothers. I am buying blankets, bottles, bottles and toys and setting off to the abortion clinic. I am also gathering information on adoption agencies in the area, and having hand outs for the soon to be mommies.
I got the idea last week, and have prayed so much since then. I really want to do this!
I am not forgetting about the people who work at these murder houses. I'm praying for them as well. I'll have chocolate and little new testaments for them as well.
Showing the unsaved LOVE is my goal. Not to accuse them of being murderers. Just informing them in love of other options.
And if need be, I'll offer to adopt their unborn child. I'll not only offer, I'll do it. One, two or five children if thats what I have to do to save them!
And seriously, I am 18. I go to a community college, I work two jobs... And I would give all of that up to save just one life. I'd drop out of college, work part time and live on welfare if I need to to give this child a gift of life.
My mom didn't abort me because of a similar story. And she was a heroin addict and I was born that way! And still I cherish life!
I really would love as much prayer as I delve into this as I can!
So please pray, and offer advice.
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:23 pm
We haven't had a thread on this topic for a while, so it's about time it came off the shelf.
Have you read our previous thread on this topic? It's in the archive along with many other old threads on various topics for your perusal listed in the directory.
I commend you for such a loving gesture as to spend your time and money reminding pregnant women about the options open to them other than abortion, and even going as far as to offer to be the adoptive mother and primary carer of their children, but there's a fine line between that and emotional manipulation. I would advise against buying baby items as it will skew the judgment of the more emotionally suggestive women into wanting to make use of such gifts. Besides, if the women choose to give them to you for adoption, you will need them more than they will.
I noticed you said that the unborn in question will be "murdered" and the abortion clinics are "murder houses". By doing so, you imply that you think the employees at the abortion clinics are murderers and the mothers are accessories to murder. While I am of the opinion that people should be responsible for their actions, whatever the consequences may be, I think regarding them as murderers is heavy-handed judgement.
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:31 pm
I think that's a great idea! Just keep praying a lot, and if you know that it's what God wants you to do, then go for it! I personally hate abortion, and it disgusts me how many people think it isn't murder. Anyway, I'm interested in what happens, and I will pray for you. Hope it goes okay. smile
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:40 pm
I agree with Priestly. I think what you're doing is wonderful, wonderful, wonderful, but I think the use of the word "murder" is a little harsh. I'm what my friend once refered to as "pro-pro-choice" meaning I believe in the right to choose, though I don't one hundred percent agree. I think it's a personal desicion however, and definetly a last resort.
I think what you're doing is wonderful. I wish you luck! You'll be in my prayers.
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:50 pm
I am pro-life as well. And murdering is the actuality. What's wrong with stating truth?
anyhoo, knatalie, you might be interested in a short story i wrote concerning abortion....it's in the artwork subforum and its called "anonymous"
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:18 pm
saki_hanajima7 I am pro-life as well. And murdering is the actuality. What's wrong with stating truth? anyhoo, knatalie, you might be interested in a short story i wrote concerning abortion....it's in the artwork subforum and its called "anonymous"
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:32 pm
A life is a life no matter how small. And it is murder in my view. I will not sugar coat it. Although, when I go into the abortion clinic, I will definitely use nicer language.
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:01 pm
Knatalie9 A life is a life no matter how small. And it is murder in my view. I will not sugar coat it. Although, when I go into the abortion clinic, I will definitely use nicer language.
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:03 pm
Priestley saki_hanajima7 I am pro-life as well. And murdering is the actuality. What's wrong with stating truth? This is true, but is awareness of existense the only criteria that constitutes a life worth living? What about a heartbeat, what about those little legs kicking inside the womb? Also, I don't remember anything from my first few years of life...does that mean it would have been all right to murder me then?
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:07 pm
Priestley Knatalie9 A life is a life no matter how small. And it is murder in my view. I will not sugar coat it. Although, when I go into the abortion clinic, I will definitely use nicer language. Being diplomatic isn't a disguise. There's a difference between "Hey Joe, your mom died last night" and "Hey Joe, your mom got gang-raped to death in a filthy back alley and tucked in a dumpster, would you pass the potatoes please?"
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:41 am
ryuu_chan Priestley Knatalie9 A life is a life no matter how small. And it is murder in my view. I will not sugar coat it. Although, when I go into the abortion clinic, I will definitely use nicer language. Being diplomatic isn't a disguise. There's a difference between "Hey Joe, your mom died last night" and "Hey Joe, your mom got gang-raped to death in a filthy back alley and tucked in a dumpster, would you pass the potatoes please?" sorry... laughed at that... aha. Its not sugar coating in when I am in the abortion clinic. It is NOT showing the love of God to go in accusing the mothers of murder. What is the best is to show love. And that is not saying "YOU MURDEROUS FEIND!" but rather, "You know there is a child in your womb right now? He or She loves you already. And even if you don't want this child, I know someone who does... Yes, God, but also me. Also hundreds of other couples who can't have children. " The goal is to save children not push mothers away from LOVE.
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:18 am
It's very risky. It has the potential for alot of good, but also the potential for alot of bitterness. I don't think anyone goes into the decision to abort without putting any thought into it. While I agree that abortion in most cases is the worst kind of selfish, and while I believe that abortion is murder, I also believe that these women that go in there are emotional wrecks, and having someone remind them of the wrongfulness of their decision only makes them worse. If you are very careful, and let the Spirit guide your words, you may get lucky, and a few lives may be saved because of you. Keep in mind though, that even though adoption is an option for these women, many of them don't want to have to carry a baby for 9 months only to give it up later. There is not only the inconvenience of being pregnant, and the stigma that it might hold for many of them, but also the fear they have that they might just change their minds. And for some younger girls, they may really have no other choice- not everyone's parents are as supportive as we'd like, and I once knew a girl who told me that her parents would force her to have an abortion if she ever got pregnant. There are alot of stories that walk into those clinics. Just be sure that you are loving them, and not condemning them. It might be helpful to even offer to pray with and over the women who walk out childless.
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:46 pm
Mothers may not go into the decision to abort without thinking about it... but my view on it is that they don't exactly think of all the options... and totally flip out.. you know? And alot of the time I don't think they want to think of it how it is, as a life that they are giving up. I think most go into it thinking, ohmygoodness, I can't have this child right now. And while that may be true, I can have this child right now. I just want the mothers to fully open their eyes to the fact that it is a child... and that there are other options.
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:32 pm
I cannot see how abortion would be "murder" from any standpoint. I do not know of anything in the Bible to suggest such, so I do not see what it is called murder.
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:50 am
saki_hanajima7 Priestley saki_hanajima7 I am pro-life as well. And murdering is the actuality. What's wrong with stating truth? This is true, but is awareness of existense the only criteria that constitutes a life worth living? What about a heartbeat, what about those little legs kicking inside the womb? Also, I don't remember anything from my first few years of life...does that mean it would have been all right to murder me then?
Whether something is 'okay' to do is probably down to community and personal morals but, would it have mattered to you whether it was right or wrong if you were aborted before you were even aware of your own existence, let alone the morality of your mother's choice?
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