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Ok to address an issue on my mind. I first found out about this Guild from a site that was advertising some peoples concerns about Gaia. So my point is that if we were to advertise a few things around Gaia.

Get the issues people hate out and get more people active in this issue. It would give us an even larger demographic to recruit from and also allow us to increase the pressure on gaia. I know we are trying to build a site but other aims should include making Gaia aware of the issues that have brought us to this point. Also trying to get it to change without expending the effort required to build a site. I know that building it would be a good idea and make it a powerful tool but if we were to actually circumvent the need for the site wouldn't that be our goal acheived?

Post methods to spread our message beyond the feedback forum. I know it'll be difficult to actually do this within the constraints Gaia has imposed. Suprising huh? People trying to make Gaia better have a hard time telling people but trolls can post porn all over the place.



Unrelated to the above point is the Treatise.
I know several Socio-Economic-Politics students who could help (if supplied with the research they need) provide us with a certified college level paper on the problems Gaia faces and resolutions. One of the guys is actually using web based cultures for a paper so bonus right there. Anyway this treatise could be like our Bill Of Rights or the Declaration of Independence. It could provide a real rallying logical thing for people to muster at and with the advantage of just being text we can store copies offline and quickly repopulate forums with threads. Handier than a thread that relies on its fans sticking to it. An intelligent plan would be to actually take control of an entire forum. Essentially at a predetermined time we would all post exactly the same thread in one forum thereby pushing other topics onto page 2 and giving us a forum for a bit. It would certainly make an impact.

Actually, the aim is the latter, the make gaia aware of the issues. If you want though, I'd be happy to allow it to remain live instead of taking it down after a limit. It depends on if it gets successful.

Not too sure if NK will agree to this.

We want to build something on a slightly smaller scale to gaia actually, as an experiment, we don't want to get that big so soon. We would also have to re-design quite a lot to prevent copy right infringement.

On that note...we would also need to make a constitution, that would bind us forever. Unlike gaia who choose to opt in and out of their self imposed rules.

Orion has a point.

At least someone is thinking of the legalities, if not in a major sense just yet. Always handy to have you onboard.

Nope any sort of proxy from proxy.org should be fine...here's some browser proxies...

Atunnel.com
Ctunnel.com
Dtunnel.com
Securetunnel.com
Ztunnel.com (Pick a letter)

Gaia are not bound by their TOC, or Rules & Guidelines, after all, they are able to change them, if and when they see fit.

Hehe, patriots. Well, I do love gaia, just not what it seems to be becoming. Look at facebook.com, and then Gaia's front page, and you tell me the difference.

We'll look at it, but I can only give the greenlight once i've looked it over as a major document.

Yep.

Ninjaking333... I don't know why, but when you say something, my brain has trouble absorbing exactly what you mean...

I think a research paper would be an AWESOME idea.
I don't think making the same mistakes as the US government is though.

I don't think gaia is salvageable:/ so I personally won't bother trying to make them aware of how unhappy their gaia cash shops make me.

I think it's just word choice and sentence arrangement... oh hey, it might be easier if you just chucked in some semi colons. xP

I'd like to eliminate the US government, on the grounds that almost any government wouldn't work online. If we're talking about a feedback system that works, I honestly don't believe the US government has one of those for anyone to use.

I'd also like to suggest that we base whatever we do off a system, (or systems) that're proven to work well.

Yeah, but Rome wasn't built in a day.
It took a lot of hard work and time to build, and then it turned into an empire and fell.

Also there's a population issue. Say we only have 10 users, and they want to give input. You can hardly make all 10 of them part of the senate, and picking only some of them is too small a pool to get feedback from.

Then there's the responsibilities; as if an online community would be dedicated enough to go through long parliamentary procedures.

What's wrong with having a feedback sticky in each forum? Or one for each forum in a feedback section? Wouldn't it be better to get everyone's opinions and see what's wanted most? If you hadn't noticed, there are several different types of people that hang out in each forum, I doubt one person could represent the majority of them. With big forums, there may need to be 10-20-100 different representatives...

You'd need the senate to go down to the individual level for it to work, even then, you'd have to pray that the representatives aren't lazy, or mean, or corrupt. Then you'd have to hope that the people actually vote for who they want and not who's going to give them each an item, if they vote at all.

It's probably better for everyone if moderators are harshly selected, and then have them sort through their forum's feedback, in some kind of feedback area, and then list what people want and how many people what it.

Then of course it would be nice if the site put up a list of things they're going to do, and actually do them in order of what's needed the most.

It's a nifty idea to copy a government, but practically, it's not going to work the same.