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Voldemort point two
Crew

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:28 pm


Okay, some of you may have noticed that I have referenced a disscussion I'm having on Facebook about ******. It's getting very interesting, and I thought I'd open the subject up here to see what you all think.

Basically my argument is that killing another human is wrong, no matter what they did. Killing the abuser would spread the wrong kind of message to the abusee, and killing is wrong. Also, it'll stop repeat offenders but it won't stop first time offenders. Offering them help before they offend will stop them in the first place.

Their argument is that ****** (or '*****' as most of them spell it... noobs. I don't know why anyone would be sexually attracted to feet) aren't human and that it doesn't matter. They're too blinded by their emotions to know, and they say that I don't know because I'm too young. And then they just ignore everything sane I say because I'm younger than them.


Discuss:

- People on Facebook being idiots.
- How some people think age = intelligence.
- The right thing to do about ******/>- Anything else that's related.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 3:30 pm


Ummm... You do know that none of us can read that because it's censored.

xxPromarkxx


Voldemort point two
Crew

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:24 am


What's censored?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:21 pm


I can see it... But that might be because I'm on a proxy. Maybe.

Or you could turn off your censor thingys.


So is this about the death penalty, or about selihpodep?

Violent_Irony


Venat the Undying

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:39 pm


Turn your filtering off.

Anywho: Ed, almost everyone is an idiot...not just facebook. My Number 4 Pet Peeve is people thinking with their emotions...WE ARE HUMAN!!! WE HAVE LOGIC!!! USE IT!!!!

age = intelligence. Intelligence = ability to learn. That decreases with your age, since your braincells are constantly dying, and, being Nerve cells, they cannot be replaced. Age = expierience, however Age =/= Wisdom or knowledge....that comes with how you are brought up and stuff....

****** should be treated the same as any other criminal.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:43 pm


Venat the Undying
Turn your filtering off.

Anywho: Ed, almost everyone is an idiot...not just facebook. My Number 4 Pet Peeve is people thinking with their emotions...WE ARE HUMAN!!! WE HAVE LOGIC!!! USE IT!!!!

age = intelligence. Intelligence = ability to learn. That decreases with your age, since your braincells are constantly dying, and, being Nerve cells, they cannot be replaced. Age = expierience, however Age =/= Wisdom or knowledge....that comes with how you are brought up and stuff....

****** should be treated the same as any other criminal.


But should anyone be killed?

I don't think its inhumane, but I don't see it as a sufficient punishment for truly heinous crimes. I mean, what if we're wrong, and nothing happens once you die? Sure, you're gone, but that doesn't even the score in my opinion.

Violent_Irony


Voldemort point two
Crew

PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 5:18 am


Violent_Irony
Venat the Undying
Turn your filtering off.

Anywho: Ed, almost everyone is an idiot...not just facebook. My Number 4 Pet Peeve is people thinking with their emotions...WE ARE HUMAN!!! WE HAVE LOGIC!!! USE IT!!!!

age = intelligence. Intelligence = ability to learn. That decreases with your age, since your braincells are constantly dying, and, being Nerve cells, they cannot be replaced. Age = expierience, however Age =/= Wisdom or knowledge....that comes with how you are brought up and stuff....

****** should be treated the same as any other criminal.


But should anyone be killed?

I don't think its inhumane, but I don't see it as a sufficient punishment for truly heinous crimes. I mean, what if we're wrong, and nothing happens once you die? Sure, you're gone, but that doesn't even the score in my opinion.

I know. But should we be aiming to punnish them as much as we can? Surely the most important thing is that they're saved. To them, it wouldn't matter what they did, or how many people they abused, because it would be the same place they're headed.

However, we need to stop them (re)offending. There isn't really a way to make them not offend at all, unless you gave them therapy before, but there's no way of knowing who to give therapy to. So, they should get therapy and/ or chemically castrated in jail.

@Venat: Can I quote you on that site? xD
PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:05 pm


Voldemort point two
Violent_Irony
Venat the Undying
Turn your filtering off.

Anywho: Ed, almost everyone is an idiot...not just facebook. My Number 4 Pet Peeve is people thinking with their emotions...WE ARE HUMAN!!! WE HAVE LOGIC!!! USE IT!!!!

age = intelligence. Intelligence = ability to learn. That decreases with your age, since your braincells are constantly dying, and, being Nerve cells, they cannot be replaced. Age = expierience, however Age =/= Wisdom or knowledge....that comes with how you are brought up and stuff....

****** should be treated the same as any other criminal.


But should anyone be killed?

I don't think its inhumane, but I don't see it as a sufficient punishment for truly heinous crimes. I mean, what if we're wrong, and nothing happens once you die? Sure, you're gone, but that doesn't even the score in my opinion.

I know. But should we be aiming to punnish them as much as we can? Surely the most important thing is that they're saved. To them, it wouldn't matter what they did, or how many people they abused, because it would be the same place they're headed.

However, we need to stop them (re)offending. There isn't really a way to make them not offend at all, unless you gave them therapy before, but there's no way of knowing who to give therapy to. So, they should get therapy and/ or chemically castrated in jail.

@Venat: Can I quote you on that site? xD


Just make sure you credit me. wink (no really, I'm serious)

Venat the Undying


Voldemort point two
Crew

PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:10 pm


Venat the Undying
Voldemort point two
Violent_Irony
Venat the Undying
Turn your filtering off.

Anywho: Ed, almost everyone is an idiot...not just facebook. My Number 4 Pet Peeve is people thinking with their emotions...WE ARE HUMAN!!! WE HAVE LOGIC!!! USE IT!!!!

age = intelligence. Intelligence = ability to learn. That decreases with your age, since your braincells are constantly dying, and, being Nerve cells, they cannot be replaced. Age = expierience, however Age =/= Wisdom or knowledge....that comes with how you are brought up and stuff....

****** should be treated the same as any other criminal.


But should anyone be killed?

I don't think its inhumane, but I don't see it as a sufficient punishment for truly heinous crimes. I mean, what if we're wrong, and nothing happens once you die? Sure, you're gone, but that doesn't even the score in my opinion.

I know. But should we be aiming to punnish them as much as we can? Surely the most important thing is that they're saved. To them, it wouldn't matter what they did, or how many people they abused, because it would be the same place they're headed.

However, we need to stop them (re)offending. There isn't really a way to make them not offend at all, unless you gave them therapy before, but there's no way of knowing who to give therapy to. So, they should get therapy and/ or chemically castrated in jail.

@Venat: Can I quote you on that site? xD


Just make sure you credit me. wink (no really, I'm serious)

Meh, okay. Fair enough. I'll let you know their feedback?
xp
If the age thing ever comes up again I'll tell you.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 3:46 pm


Voldemort point two
Violent_Irony
Venat the Undying
Turn your filtering off.

Anywho: Ed, almost everyone is an idiot...not just facebook. My Number 4 Pet Peeve is people thinking with their emotions...WE ARE HUMAN!!! WE HAVE LOGIC!!! USE IT!!!!

age = intelligence. Intelligence = ability to learn. That decreases with your age, since your braincells are constantly dying, and, being Nerve cells, they cannot be replaced. Age = expierience, however Age =/= Wisdom or knowledge....that comes with how you are brought up and stuff....

****** should be treated the same as any other criminal.


But should anyone be killed?

I don't think its inhumane, but I don't see it as a sufficient punishment for truly heinous crimes. I mean, what if we're wrong, and nothing happens once you die? Sure, you're gone, but that doesn't even the score in my opinion.

I know. But should we be aiming to punnish them as much as we can? Surely the most important thing is that they're saved. To them, it wouldn't matter what they did, or how many people they abused, because it would be the same place they're headed.

However, we need to stop them (re)offending. There isn't really a way to make them not offend at all, unless you gave them therapy before, but there's no way of knowing who to give therapy to. So, they should get therapy and/ or chemically castrated in jail.

@Venat: Can I quote you on that site? xD


Not necessarily as much as we can, but some kind of punishment beyond death in addition to the death penalty should exist. That's why I'm glad that there is an 8-10 year holding period before people on death row are killed.

I don't particularly like the idea of chemical castration, simply because it really reminds me of when they would chop off someone's hand for stealing, and cut off a liar's tongue. It seems kind of horrible to me. Besides, what about female rapists?

Violent_Irony


Voldemort point two
Crew

PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:06 am


Violent_Irony
Voldemort point two
Violent_Irony
Venat the Undying
Turn your filtering off.

Anywho: Ed, almost everyone is an idiot...not just facebook. My Number 4 Pet Peeve is people thinking with their emotions...WE ARE HUMAN!!! WE HAVE LOGIC!!! USE IT!!!!

age = intelligence. Intelligence = ability to learn. That decreases with your age, since your braincells are constantly dying, and, being Nerve cells, they cannot be replaced. Age = expierience, however Age =/= Wisdom or knowledge....that comes with how you are brought up and stuff....

****** should be treated the same as any other criminal.


But should anyone be killed?

I don't think its inhumane, but I don't see it as a sufficient punishment for truly heinous crimes. I mean, what if we're wrong, and nothing happens once you die? Sure, you're gone, but that doesn't even the score in my opinion.

I know. But should we be aiming to punnish them as much as we can? Surely the most important thing is that they're saved. To them, it wouldn't matter what they did, or how many people they abused, because it would be the same place they're headed.

However, we need to stop them (re)offending. There isn't really a way to make them not offend at all, unless you gave them therapy before, but there's no way of knowing who to give therapy to. So, they should get therapy and/ or chemically castrated in jail.

@Venat: Can I quote you on that site? xD


Not necessarily as much as we can, but some kind of punishment beyond death in addition to the death penalty should exist. That's why I'm glad that there is an 8-10 year holding period before people on death row are killed.

I don't particularly like the idea of chemical castration, simply because it really reminds me of when they would chop off someone's hand for stealing, and cut off a liar's tongue. It seems kind of horrible to me. Besides, what about female rapists?

Hmm. That's a good one. To be honest, I have no idea. In the group on Facebook (It's called "Lock up ***** with no parole" or something like that on the Causes app.) someone posted something about a ****** who requested chemical castration. So it's not like they don't want it (although it could have just been omeone who was stupid)... maybe there's something that could disable their hormones? Or give them a sex change then chemically castrate them?

And... it's not as cruel as killing them. They should be punnished, but not killed. That's just showing off the government's inability to come up with something to do with them.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:19 pm


Sorry, I could have sworn my filtering was off. Wow, that post makes alot more sense now.

Most of the government officials are either agnostics or really stupid Christians. They think that death IS the worst punishment. Although chemical castration does sound a little harsh... and I don't even want to imagine what would happen to the female ******.

xxPromarkxx


Voldemort point two
Crew

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:39 am


Yes, but should we even be trying to punish them? I also just figured out that death is possibly the worst thing they could threaten.

If they know they're going to die once they've done it once, they'll have nothing left to lose, so they'll do it again, or kill their victim. Or all three both.

EDIT: three sentence parts =/= three points. I knew that. xD
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