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 Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:03 pm
Have you ever found yourself hating the "Beauty"? I do all the time!
For instance in "Phantom of the Opera" Sure the Phantom was a little odd but he was only like that because of the environment he grew up in!
Christine took one look at his face and she immediately deemed he was a horrible monster!
It Just Frustrates me.
Discuss:
Beauties that You Hated!
and Why.
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:45 pm
Hmm, I don't think I have ever hated the "beauties" however I find myself constantly frustrated with the characters. Probably becuase I can't associate myself in that kind of a role. I am more of a tom boy/attitude/independent chick type, not the pretty girly type.
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:06 pm
Yeah. I'm independent in a lot of ways but I kinda long for the day that I'll be swept off my feet.
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:11 pm
Akida MiLou Yeah. I'm independent in a lot of ways but I kinda long for the day that I'll be swept off my feet. Being swept off your feet is wonderful. ^^ I should know, I'm happily married to the guy that I feel was my soul mate. Anyway... Bella from Twilight kind of annoyed me at times... she seemed kind of ditzy and not very bright....
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:17 pm
Nick_Tereasa Akida MiLou Yeah. I'm independent in a lot of ways but I kinda long for the day that I'll be swept off my feet. Being swept off your feet is wonderful. ^^ I should know, I'm happily married to the guy that I feel was my soul mate. Anyway... Bella from Twilight kind of annoyed me at times... she seemed kind of ditzy and not very bright.... I got that vibe from her as well.
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:54 pm
Now that you mention it. I did kinda hate the leading lady of phantom of the opera (the character not the actor). She kind of lead him on a bit.
I was never much of a fan for sleeping beauty. If only I had a knight who'd break a spell for me like that!
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:03 pm
I also want to agree with you guys about Bella.
She was whiny, overly defendant on people, and a mary-sue. Those qualities combined with clumsiness doesn't make her NOT a Mary-Sue, they just make her an annoying, clumsy brat.
I really had to stop reading the books for a few hours out of frustration at her.
I didn't much care for "the beast" in Twilight, either.
But that's a whole different topic.
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:05 pm
Eladrin Now that you mention it. I did kinda hate the leading lady of phantom of the opera (the character not the actor). She kind of lead him on a bit. I was never much of a fan for sleeping beauty. If only I had a knight who'd break a spell for me like that! I know right!?! He loved her so much and all he wanted was her love in return emo
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:07 pm
Jezze-a-Belle I also want to agree with you guys about Bella. She was whiny, overly defendant on people, and a mary-sue. Those qualities combined with clumsiness doesn't make her NOT a Mary-Sue, they just make her an annoying, clumsy brat. I really had to stop reading the books for a few hours out of frustration at her. I didn't much care for "the beast" in Twilight, either. But that's a whole different topic. I have a love hate relationship with Twilight. Not all of it is very good but I still can't stop reading it sweatdrop ... Well I guess now I can, since the series ended. ^.^
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:17 pm
Akida MiLou Jezze-a-Belle I also want to agree with you guys about Bella. She was whiny, overly defendant on people, and a mary-sue. Those qualities combined with clumsiness doesn't make her NOT a Mary-Sue, they just make her an annoying, clumsy brat. I really had to stop reading the books for a few hours out of frustration at her. I didn't much care for "the beast" in Twilight, either. But that's a whole different topic. I have a love hate relationship with Twilight. Not all of it is very good but I still can't stop reading it sweatdrop ... Well I guess now I can, since the series ended. ^.^ well, she was going to make another book for it... Twilight from Edward's point of view... which I thought was going to be very interesting.... but instead she put it on hold.... because of a leak of a few chapters.... which seems very childish to me, it's not about her, it's about the fans, and most books have transcript leaks anyway.
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:24 pm
Nick_Tereasa Akida MiLou Jezze-a-Belle I also want to agree with you guys about Bella. She was whiny, overly defendant on people, and a mary-sue. Those qualities combined with clumsiness doesn't make her NOT a Mary-Sue, they just make her an annoying, clumsy brat. I really had to stop reading the books for a few hours out of frustration at her. I didn't much care for "the beast" in Twilight, either. But that's a whole different topic. I have a love hate relationship with Twilight. Not all of it is very good but I still can't stop reading it sweatdrop ... Well I guess now I can, since the series ended. ^.^ well, she was going to make another book for it... Twilight from Edward's point of view... which I thought was going to be very interesting.... but instead she put it on hold.... because of a leak of a few chapters.... which seems very childish to me, it's not about her, it's about the fans, and most books have transcript leaks anyway. I started reading the leaked stuff on her site, and I actually liked it a lot. I wish she would continue it from his perspecive. @Akida;; That's how I felt until Breaking Dawn came out. And then I made it to the end of section two and nearly threw the book out the window. I stopped reading, put it away, and haven't finished it. o-o
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:29 pm
Jezze-a-Belle Nick_Tereasa Akida MiLou Jezze-a-Belle I also want to agree with you guys about Bella. She was whiny, overly defendant on people, and a mary-sue. Those qualities combined with clumsiness doesn't make her NOT a Mary-Sue, they just make her an annoying, clumsy brat. I really had to stop reading the books for a few hours out of frustration at her. I didn't much care for "the beast" in Twilight, either. But that's a whole different topic. I have a love hate relationship with Twilight. Not all of it is very good but I still can't stop reading it sweatdrop ... Well I guess now I can, since the series ended. ^.^ well, she was going to make another book for it... Twilight from Edward's point of view... which I thought was going to be very interesting.... but instead she put it on hold.... because of a leak of a few chapters.... which seems very childish to me, it's not about her, it's about the fans, and most books have transcript leaks anyway. I started reading the leaked stuff on her site, and I actually liked it a lot. I wish she would continue it from his perspecive. @Akida;; That's how I felt until Breaking Dawn came out. And then I made it to the end of section two and nearly threw the book out the window. I stopped reading, put it away, and haven't finished it. o-o Out of all of the them i was most disappointed by book BD. The book was less thought out as the rest and after you stopped reading the rest of the book kinda play out like a grocery list of events. All topped off with an anti climatic ending.
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:32 pm
Nick_Tereasa Akida MiLou Jezze-a-Belle I also want to agree with you guys about Bella. She was whiny, overly defendant on people, and a mary-sue. Those qualities combined with clumsiness doesn't make her NOT a Mary-Sue, they just make her an annoying, clumsy brat. I really had to stop reading the books for a few hours out of frustration at her. I didn't much care for "the beast" in Twilight, either. But that's a whole different topic. I have a love hate relationship with Twilight. Not all of it is very good but I still can't stop reading it sweatdrop ... Well I guess now I can, since the series ended. ^.^ well, she was going to make another book for it... Twilight from Edward's point of view... which I thought was going to be very interesting.... but instead she put it on hold.... because of a leak of a few chapters.... which seems very childish to me, it's not about her, it's about the fans, and most books have transcript leaks anyway. I'm really looking forward to it too. I read the First Chapter on her Site. I'm intrested to see what Edward was really thinking in certain situations. rolleyes
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:42 pm
Akida MiLou Jezze-a-Belle @Akida;; That's how I felt until Breaking Dawn came out. And then I made it to the end of section two and nearly threw the book out the window. I stopped reading, put it away, and haven't finished it. o-o Out of all of the them i was most disappointed by book BD. The book was less thought out as the rest and after you stopped reading the rest of the book kinda play out like a grocery list of events. All topped off with an anti climatic ending. That's along the lines of what my cousin said, actually. Apparently Bella is very distractable now? LOL, good one SM. She's totally not a Mary Sue now. rolleyes Wasn't the ending a deus ex machina? Like. Oh no, we have to confront the Volturi, but it's cool, because we're going to have a mind battle and Bella isn't effected by others' mind power. And, oh, wow, Nessy stops growing at "seventeen" or whatever so she and Jakey can be 2gethr4evr. AND OH WOW. ALICE COMES BACK. AND WITH /ANOTHER/ HALF VAMPIRE/HUMAN THING. Really easy and unlikely plot-hole fixers=NO. =/
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:10 pm
I kind of feel bad for her though. Someone she trusted leaked more than half the book onto the internet. If you were in her position, would you have the will power or inspiration to continue with the story? Trying to become an author myself, I know I wouldn't.
On the other hand, I still stick by the Twilight is the best book. I didn't like New Moon because I never liked Jacob(until BD) nor Edward leaving, Eclipse the characters changed wayy too much for my taste, and Breaking Dawn went a little overboard with the whole pregnancy. Near the end I was just like "Have the stupid baby already!!"
But Twilight I have read tons of times. Sure, there are a lot of Mary-sue characters in there, but tis still my fav. biggrin
I'll admit, BD was a disappointment. I mean, the plot wasn't bad overall, but she could've written it much better. I still consider myself a HUGE fan though. I can't help it xD
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