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Do you feel the same way and want to give Shadow Legion a new beginning?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:49 am


I posted an important message in the Ideas and Suggestion Thread, so if you haven't seen it, i'll post it right below 3nodding

Everyone, please tell me what you think and remember to vote, coz this is important since i really want Shadow Legion to became active and full of life again 3nodding

I really like this Guild and i want to do what i can to help out before it's too late sweatdrop I have some life changing plans and by this coming summer, i might not be so active anymore.

So do my a favor, post your comments here and not in the Ideas and Suggestion Thread (unless it has nothing to do with this issue and it's an idea for something else)!




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I have an idea or a suggestion really 3nodding I think we need to do something drastic and in my opinion, it'll be good for Shadow Legion 3nodding

I've been thinking of "reseting" or "deleting" everything smile After i'm done with the new Home design, discussed the rules for this Guild, then i'll make a huge list of Sub Forums, Threads, Topics, Announcements and so forth. After everything's done on "papir", i'll delete every single post and stuff and remake this Guild. We need a new start and it'll give this Guild a new breath of life 3nodding

We'll keep all the members, and we'll send a pm your way to let you know the new era of this Guild has begun. I'm hoping that we'll be up and running before New Years and we'll have additional new members smile

I wasn't here from the beginning and since i've worked to gain the title as Vice Captain, i'll do my best to take responsibility and do my part to aid Shadow Legion and her rightful owner, SexyG 3nodding

lol i'm not preaching xd I'm just saying that i'm not a fool nor disloyal or untrustworthy 3nodding

That's what i've been dwelling so far in that brain of mine, so, let me know what you think guys smile Ultimately, it's our GM's decision if she wants to go forth with this since it's not something that takes one day wink

Post: - Comment in the new Announcement "Big Decision"
Vote: Yes, No or Maybe
Why: Write why you chose Yes or No
PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:53 am


No! We are in full pogress remaking the guild! And watabout all the posts and work? You whant it to be deleted? eek Please don't!

Zaakii


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:55 am


< I posted >
Vote: Yes
Why: Sometimes we have to say goodbye to the old, in order to bring life to something new 3nodding So basically, "reseting" everything will be a good chance for Shadow Legion to grow to something greater smile As Byakuya said once:


Xx-byakuya kun-xX
what do you think we could do to help make this guild alot better than it is already?!? we need all your help to make this the most popular guild in the whole freakin network!!!!!!!!!! biggrin


That's what i'm trying to do 3nodding
PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:59 am


Zaaki
No! We are in full pogress remaking the guild! And watabout all the posts and work? You whant it to be deleted? eek Please don't!


Yeah, but it'l be "reborn" again 3nodding New introduction, new everything and it'll help Shadow Legion a whole lot smile After i'm done with the designs, i'll be promoting Shadow Legion 3nodding It'll be great for new comers and the old members will have something to do again smile

Like marketing, you wouldn't want to sell a broken object, you would want to sell a new product smile That's how i see it biggrin

Coz everything will be new, and with more thought and order to this Guild wink

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Zaakii

PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:02 am


That's no that good! I think the topics are nice 3nodding We just need more members, and active members! And i think we got lotsa good moderators!

Example in my 10k posts guild, the other moderators do not thake stuff that much in moderation, as guys in this guild does!

I ben waiting for a Messiah!

Though, i figureout that if i wanted a Messiah, i had to be the Messiah of other guilds first wink lol

We have 4 good moderator's! What u guys whant next? Better and active members? And more posts?

I just need promotion, soo that i can do big changes!


And the guild head banner sucks! REALLY!
PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:08 am


i say go for it! take the risk and good will come of it wink that's the difference between success and the norm 3nodding

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:21 am


Zaaki
That's no that good! I think the topics are nice 3nodding We just need more members, and active members! And i think we got lotsa good moderators!

Example in my 10k posts guild, the other moderators do not thake stuff that much in moderation, as guys in this guild does!

I ben waiting for a Messiah!

Though, i figureout that if i wanted a Messiah, i had to be the Messiah of other guilds first wink lol

We have 4 good moderator's! What u guys whant next? Better and active members? And more posts?

I just need promotion, soo that i can do big changes!


And the guild head banner sucks! REALLY!


Hey man, the topics will still be here + a lot more topics will be added, but people will have to post again to gain activity + starting fresh is good a thing 3nodding You'll rediscover the fun back then and it'll motivate you to become more active since you'll be meeting and talking to new people wink

Yeah, but asking for promotion isn't going to do good, you have to be humble and have patients. If our GM sees that you're doing a great job and that you're treating everybody with respect, kindness, and really working to hard, you might get a promotion 3nodding

Besides, it's okay to think the Guild banner sucks, but show some respect and don't say it like that here in this Guild! Stuff like that isn't a bright idea + who are you to say that? Can you make a better one? I don't know who made it but i'm thankful that we have one!

So yeah, thanks for a nice Guild design whoever you are 3nodding It gave me inspiration to make a new one for the Guild wink
PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:41 am


The Dung Master
Zaaki
That's no that good! I think the topics are nice 3nodding We just need more members, and active members! And i think we got lotsa good moderators!

Example in my 10k posts guild, the other moderators do not thake stuff that much in moderation, as guys in this guild does!

I ben waiting for a Messiah!

Though, i figureout that if i wanted a Messiah, i had to be the Messiah of other guilds first wink lol

We have 4 good moderator's! What u guys whant next? Better and active members? And more posts?

I just need promotion, soo that i can do big changes!


And the guild head banner sucks! REALLY!


Hey man, the topics will still be here + a lot more topics will be added, but people will have to post again to gain activity + starting fresh is good a thing 3nodding You'll rediscover the fun back then and it'll motivate you to become more active since you'll be meeting and talking to new people wink

Yeah, but asking for promotion isn't going to do good, you have to be humble and have patients. If our GM sees that you're doing a great job and that you're treating everybody with respect, kindness, and really working to hard, you might get a promotion 3nodding

Besides, it's okay to think the Guild banner sucks, but show some respect and don't say it like that here in this Guild! Stuff like that isn't a bright idea + who are you to say that? Can you make a better one? I don't know who made it but i'm thankful that we have one!

So yeah, thanks for a nice Guild design whoever you are 3nodding It gave me inspiration to make a new one for the Guild wink

Yea, that's right 3nodding But the guild is going very well at the momment, and when i'm done with my event, it whill go even better xd

And when i get promotion, it whill go awesomely 3nodding


That's what i'm saying!

And we delete posts, but not topics? confused


That's wasting of time! And why have a guild with 0 posts?

And sorry for the non-respect, but i think it's non-interresting 3nodding I think that one u have in your signature, is a bit more interresting 3nodding

But what does Shadow Legion acturally mean? And can't u write in the banner, it's an everything guild?(if it is)

Zaakii


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:40 am


Zaaki
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Zaaki
That's no that good! I think the topics are nice 3nodding We just need more members, and active members! And i think we got lotsa good moderators!

Example in my 10k posts guild, the other moderators do not thake stuff that much in moderation, as guys in this guild does!

I ben waiting for a Messiah!

Though, i figureout that if i wanted a Messiah, i had to be the Messiah of other guilds first wink lol

We have 4 good moderator's! What u guys whant next? Better and active members? And more posts?

I just need promotion, soo that i can do big changes!


And the guild head banner sucks! REALLY!


Hey man, the topics will still be here + a lot more topics will be added, but people will have to post again to gain activity + starting fresh is good a thing 3nodding You'll rediscover the fun back then and it'll motivate you to become more active since you'll be meeting and talking to new people wink

Yeah, but asking for promotion isn't going to do good, you have to be humble and have patients. If our GM sees that you're doing a great job and that you're treating everybody with respect, kindness, and really working to hard, you might get a promotion 3nodding

Besides, it's okay to think the Guild banner sucks, but show some respect and don't say it like that here in this Guild! Stuff like that isn't a bright idea + who are you to say that? Can you make a better one? I don't know who made it but i'm thankful that we have one!

So yeah, thanks for a nice Guild design whoever you are 3nodding It gave me inspiration to make a new one for the Guild wink

Yea, that's right 3nodding But the guild is going very well at the momment, and when i'm done with my event, it whill go even better xd

And when i get promotion, it whill go awesomely 3nodding


That's what i'm saying!

And we delete posts, but not topics? confused


That's wasting of time! And why have a guild with 0 posts?

And sorry for the non-respect, but i think it's non-interresting 3nodding I think that one u have in your signature, is a bit more interresting 3nodding

But what does Shadow Legion acturally mean? And can't u write in the banner, it's an everything guild?(if it is)


This Guild's on a hold, nothing big is happening.
If you read what i posted from the start, everything will be deleted. And then they'll be created again but with more order. It'll be a "makeover" if you will.

A waste of time, not at all since i'm the one who's going to do all that. I'm confident that Shadow Legion needs to be "reborn" and this is the best way in my opinion. Everything i'll do, and people are barely posting anything anyways, so nothing will be missed.

Well it's okay to say the Guild Banner or whatever's non interesting, but sucky is just too stupid and very disrespectful 3nodding One thing i do not tolerate, is the lack of respect!

My personal signature will be the Shadow Legion's new Guild design. As for what it says out on the Guild Home banner, i agree with you there. You can't say something that isn't "true".

It's up to our GM what kind of Guild she wants, and if she wants an all to do Guild, that's what i'll do for her. I'll dedicate what time i have left to make sure she'll come close to that goal. And for us to even remotely reach that goal, i'll have to "recreate" or "remake" this Guild.

Seriously, what you see now, it's pretty much nothing. Do not misunderstand! I love this Guild and as a Vice Captain, it's my duty to make this Guild better.

We have sooo many members and a lot of them have never even posted here! It's a bit sad since i really like this Guild sweatdrop Anyways, a Guild doesn't achieve success by only having lots of members. What i truly believe a successful Guild, is a place where you come to hangout with your fellow Guildies. A place that is fun, a place where you meet new interesting people, a developing Guild, a feeling you're addicted too and everyday you just can't wait too come on and chat with your fellow Guildies and friends. It's the kind of Guild i had in WoW (i had only one Guild which i was a GM of) and i know i can do it again 3nodding

Don't think i'm comparing World of Warcraft with Gaia. It's the same principal 3nodding There are people in WoW and here on Gaia. They talk in Guilds and so do they here. In WoW we do things together, and what did you know, they do it here too wink Well, i think you get my point 3nodding

Besides, i'm waiting for more people to post their comments and votes smile If the majority votes for a Yes, then it's up to our GM to make the final decision 3nodding If she gives the green light, then Shadow Legion will be reduced to nothing and reborn to something new, waiting for the opportunity to grow 3nodding

If the majority votes for a No, then i'll forget about my visions 3nodding But if our GM says "go for it" (remember, it's her Guild and her visions, so she has the final word no matter what), then i'll carry on with the big work ahead of me 3nodding

Yeah, there's a chance we might loose a lot of members, but i don't see much happening anyways, so what is there to loose really, since Shadow Legion will be good as new with better improvements and once they see that, they might have a change in heart and come back 3nodding

The Guild is on hold, nothing's happing, so why not take that risk of making it even better by giving it a fresh start wink
PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:00 am


Lølz WoW?

I am guild master in nerly all my servers, that's about 70 servers, since i keep changing razz

And i made 1000 member guilds, and i ben Game Master in 2 servers and much more!

But this is really diffrent from WoW! WoW is more of a RP/Adventure/Action game! It's really diffrent!


And forgive me for my dis-respect!

Soo u whill delete them all? And then u whill create them? What about all the work?

Zaakii


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:23 am


Zaaki
Lølz WoW?

I am guild master in nerly all my servers, that's about 70 servers, since i keep changing razz

And i made 1000 member guilds, and i ben Game Master in 2 servers and much more!

But this is really diffrent from WoW! WoW is more of a RP/Adventure/Action game! It's really diffrent!


And forgive me for my dis-respect!

Soo u whill delete them all? And then u whill create them? What about all the work?


Haha never truly said otherwise xd I know WoW and Gaia are different, but they still have the same aspects on some fields + the whole Guild vibe's not that different in terms of principals, that's what i've been saying wink

And yeah, i'll do all that work to bring Shadow Legion to a new stage in its life 3nodding Frankly, i don't like "mess" and for a Guild, i like there to be order. I don't feel the need to have all kinds of Topics and whatnot, if there is no need for them.

What i'm planning on doing, so to make Shadow Legion new again, give it an entirely new look and feel to it, a new beginning. Everything will be new, since i'll delete almost everything. So yeah, you'll be given a chance to re introduce yourself and for new members to get the chance to know the old members. It's like joining a new Guild, you'll still have to introduce yourself, so why not do it here as well wink Well i think that is the least what you can do, for a new beginning 3nodding

Yeah, as i said before, we might risk loosing a lot of members, but that's not what i want. If you can see past the fact some big changes need to be made, it'll be good in the long run. I'm not doing this for me, i could just give a rats a** to what happens to this Guild and find something better, but i'm not doing that. I love this Guild coz i can see the potential and i know it'll be a great Guild 3nodding We might not be the best Guild here on Gaia with thousands of members, but a Guild where we can call ourselves as a team or family wink

I'm going to put my heart and soul into this, so i know something good will come of it. I'm doing this for Shadow Legion and for our GM.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:52 am


Hey, it's totally up to you.
I said maybe, only because I'm stuck between "DO IIIIIIT!!" and "NUUUU!!".
I say yes because, seriously, it'd be cool to try and "revive" this guild from the dead. I mean, it's not totally inactive, but we could have a whole bunch of new things.
I say no because a lot of fun things have happened in the guild without it being "revived", like a lot of random conversations.

But hey, it's totally up to you guys!! I'll support your decision no matter what it is.

shadow_demon_Kyo


Zaakii

PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:01 am


It's good! But tell me EXACLY what u trying to do?

Deleting all the posts, and make them yourself? Cause that's stealing!

Ore u delete all topics? eek Cause that's no reason to do at all!



Do u think we need members? Well then annouce!

Do u think we need active memers? Well then promote me, and help me with making events!

Do u think that the topics are stupid? Well then do as in The Muslim Guild Of Gaia, and make a Recycle Bin forum, for the trash!!!!!!!!!!!!

What do u whant? I still diden't get it?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:12 am


shadow_demon_Kyo
Hey, it's totally up to you.
I said maybe, only because I'm stuck between "DO IIIIIIT!!" and "NUUUU!!".
I say yes because, seriously, it'd be cool to try and "revive" this guild from the dead. I mean, it's not totally inactive, but we could have a whole bunch of new things.
I say no because a lot of fun things have happened in the guild without it being "revived", like a lot of random conversations.

But hey, it's totally up to you guys!! I'll support your decision no matter what it is.


Sweet biggrin Well i see you point and i'll try and save as much as i can 3nodding

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:29 am


Zaaki
It's good! But tell me EXACLY what u trying to do?

Deleting all the posts, and make them yourself? Cause that's stealing!

Ore u delete all topics? eek Cause that's no reason to do at all!



Do u think we need members? Well then annouce!

Do u think we need active memers? Well then promote me, and help me with making events!

Do u think that the topics are stupid? Well then do as in The Muslim Guild Of Gaia, and make a Recycle Bin forum, for the trash!!!!!!!!!!!!

What do u whant? I still diden't get it?


lol, i don't even know how to explain things even more clearly than i did in all the other comments... you're wearing me out Zaaki sweatdrop This is the last time i'll try to explain it too you 3nodding

Answering your questions:

A) lol i'm not stealing anything xd If i did, i would be GM now xp I don't really see how that's called stealing since i'm not running off with anything xd
B) Yes, i would like to delete all the topics and make the same ones new again. Why? Because a lot of topics need a new way of introduction.
C) Yes, we need more members, but after the Guild has gone through some big changes. How do you feel about visiting a messy and dirty house? Not so good, so i'm trying to clean it all up.
D) Yes, active members are good for a Guild, but i will not promote you since it's our GM job. She will tell me who she wants me to promote.
E) No, i don't think our Topics are stupid. They are pretty much "dead". I want to make them even better, more organized, and in the right Sub Forums etc. etc.
F) Still don't get it?

What do i want to do with Shadow Legion and what are my plans?

A) I want Shadow Legion to be "reborn". For it to be "reborn", it has to "end".
B) I wasn't here when the Guild first began, but along the way i came and earned the right to be a Vice Captain. As an honor to be under SexyG, it's my duty to make sure Shadow Legion is up and running when she's not around + to help her with her visions for this Guild. Therefore i'm going to contribute my time, heart, and soul to this Guild coz it's my home and i love it here.
C) We have a lot of members that aren't active and yet some, haven't even bothered coming on to say hi. I want to change that.
D) The Guild is "dying" and i want to save it, my way. That's by changing the whole design and structure of Shadow Legion.
E) I want Shadow Legion to feel like it's a fresh and new Guild, like when the day it was made. I'm sure everyone had hopes and many plans for this Guild. Back then, it had a future and right now, it's "life" is at stake.
F) Like a Phoenix, it dies and turns to ash. But it's reborn from that very ash and burns the skies with a promising new life. I want Shadow Legion to be "reborn" as something bigger, with more stability and with hopes, dreams and a promising future as long as i am SexyG's Vice Captain. In my eyes, Shadow Legion can become that Phoenix.
G) I will put it all on me, i will be the one to "destroy" and "revive" this Guild. I will not remain active for much longer, so before i join the Army, this will be my final and big contribution to this Guild that is my home and that i am passionate about.
H) I'm currently making Shadow Legion's new Guild Home design, banner and that mini banner. Some people like myself, are intrigued with a great design and it'll peek their interest and make them explore. That way we can gain additional curious members.
I) I want to to promote this Guild in the Guild Forums and wherever i can in places that are allowed. For me to do that, i want Shadow Legion to be cleaned up. You would much rather by something new and shiny, than an old used rusty piece of junk. No! Shadow Legion is not an old used rusty piece of junk, i'm just using examples so don't take things literally!
J) I want Shadow Legion to have new Events and Activities and so much more, but i'm not ready to make them unless Shadow Legion undergoes a "makeover".
K) I probably have more in my arsenal but i can't think of it since i'm tired of explaining the same thing... i feel like i'm repeating myself over and over again...
L) Do you get it know?

This concerns everyone! I will not answer to the same questions, so please read the entire thing, yes, the ENTIRE thing! I don't want to explain what i already have said before!
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