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Okay, so this thread is controversial to say the least. I am well aware of the fact that a few of you take theanti-religion stand point and make no bones to sugar coat anything to myself and to Trevor. I made this thread to discuss something, a discussion- Not a Fight. I am not trying to offend anyone here, we are a family here, yes? So let's act like one. This is an issue in the US, so why not discuss something of real substance. No one will be saying statements as such, "Athesits are stupid or Christianity is for losers". It's not constructive to any sort of discussion. I layed my cards out on the table, these are my feelings on the matter. What are yours?





So in publics school, they teach Evolution as reason for the creation of the universe. But they don't teach it as much of a theory anymore, more as fact. The big debate is why not teach intelligent design as well?

I've heard this thrown in my face countless times by atheists: Don't put your morals and ethics on me.

Well, all do respect, but aren't you doing the exact same thing by not even allowing different theories to be taught? I'm not asking to only teach intelligent design, I'm asking why not present all the options on the table and let the kids decide for themselves. Why not show all theories available?

The fact remains evolution is a theory, it hasn't been proven, so teach it for what it is and include other options in the lecture. Whatever those options may be. If in fact evolution is the right choice with no flaws, then kids will see that this is obviously the right choice, no?

hmm. I have actually often thought about this, and my first reflexive answer is to say absolutely not! I do not say this because I do not agree with the option to learn intelligent design as well, but because I so strongly believe in the separation of church and state. I absolutely disagree with the mixture of religion and government or religion and politics, which is really another thread altogether....
That being said, I also believe in the pursuit of knowledge, and I do not, under any circumstances, believe in withholding knowledge from anyone who wants to know.... So for reasons that actually have nothing to do with religion per say, I believe that it should be an optional section of that particular class (not up to the teacher, but up to each individual student) . I say optional because some atheists can be as offended by blatant religion being handed to them as some religious people can be offended by blatant disdain for Christianity.

I think evolution, or rather adaptation, is a very plausible idea and is not so farfetched. If God can create something as complex as the human body and hundreds of thousands of different species of animals, trees, fruits, etc., then I don't think it is to strange of an idea that God would also apply that particular idea.

@KY: It gives an explanation for the creation of the universe, seems scientific enough. Where your flaw is there is that YOU don't believe in God, therefore it cannot be, and cannot be taught because its strictly religion based.


Yes, listen to lotus, I am not discussing what YOU guys believe, that's already been discussed. I am talking about this: Whether or not school should teach more than one option for the creation of the universe.

Evolution is a theory, for many, many reasons. What is the big deal with exposing everything to different ideas?

The same reason for separation of church and state (well besides the fact that everyone has taken this statement way out of context), don't shove your morals on me.


Well, like I said before: Don't shove your evolution on me.

Huh?

here we see the theory of creation as the big bang and all that stuff . if in an exam we answer that it is a fact we get the answer wrong. and we get a lot of theories in school , creation of the universe , or even the word of god even when school is supposed to be aside from faith

Oh, not at all. I have no problem with kids being taught both, in fact that's what I'm asking for. The truth is there, it's up for the kids to decide. Not The government.

Whenever science class starts to discuss how the Earth was formed.