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 Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:01 pm
We all now the classic tale of poor abused Cinderella. But are spin-offs still good? Like I have an idea where the Cinderella is asked to prom by the popular guy, they go to prom, then there's some romantic frolicking. But it has a tragic end. Very very tragic. So the discussion is, are Cinderella type stories still alive or are we sick of the old fairytales?
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:07 pm
I like the OLD fairytales. I mean the old ones were they get their eyes ripped out and Rapunzel gets pregnant. Awesome. I've got two stories going based on fairy tales, one on Cinderella. I think they hold a bit of charm, a reminiscent feel that seems new at the same time. The story, in essence, is basically timeless.
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:31 pm
That's what I'm thinking. It's like, we're reading what we did when we were little but we're reading it again with an older feel.
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:23 pm
Yesh. ^^ But I'm afraid I'm not very fond of the ones set in a newer world. The fantasy is supposed to be dark, not light hearted, like in most of those types that have come out.
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:03 pm
My thing about Disney-type fairytales is that because everyone always "lives happily ever after" people are convinced that they will too find prince charming and everything will be okay.
But it's not like that.
That's why I like my story. Big slap in the face right at the end.
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:29 am
Hmmm...that's funny, I just wrote a paper somewhat like your lsat comment.
It was a comparision of Cinderella and Mulan, and I definitely mentioned how Cinderella shows girls that they are helpless and all their self-worth is put in the acceptance of a guy.
I like the idea of a not happily-ever after. It's real life.
And I don't think fairy tales can ever die. They've lasted for YEARS now, people are still showing Cinderella to their kids. It's become a part of our society.
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:26 am
I don't know that individual fairy tales can't die. There are fairy tales that only a tiny, tiny percentage of society has heard of - a much smaller percentage of society than that part of it which can, for instance, read and write in Latin. And yet Latin is a dead language, so why not declare the fairy tales less well-known than it similarly deceased?
For instance: how many of you have even heard of "The Tin Pig"? A couple, maybe? Our resident Italian, and those who read the Grimm's fairy tales all the way through, maybe. And we're that cross-section of society most likely to have heard of obscure fairy tales - avid readers.
But certainly Cinderella is alive and well. A prom spin-off, eh? Should be interesting. =]
Oh, and out of curiosity, Waffles, were you saying that Mulan presented an extremely different message?
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:12 pm
I guess the Mulan comparison is that you don't have to be help less?
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 9:10 am
I'd say so... Mulan was about being yourself, and how you can be something different than what most people think a guy likes.
I love Mulan.
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:34 pm
But wasn't she doing it for her family's honor?
It wasn't a question of her wanting to be a warrior; it was a question of saving her injured father the shame of going and being weak, and also of just generally saving her injured father from getting himself killed. In Disney movie and original ballad, I believe.
Not that that's not a different message from Cinderella's, but I don't know that it's entirely about being yourself either. Y'know? In the ballad she actually ends up deciding to go home and be feminine again, rejecting the offered government post etc.
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:45 pm
Fairytales will probably never die. They've been around for tons of hundreds of years. And I love them. I wrote a huge paper on it fall semester last year, Grimm's, specifically. It would be my dream to find them and write my doctorate thesis on them. Except Romans ones. Omg. /nerdx10.
And the current story/theme/characters obsession is a throw-off of Alice. Except not anymore. It kind of expanded. From a short story to three, full length novels. ohgawd.
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