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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:30 am
I've been wondering for a while if it's more 'beneficial' (I guess) to know one type than the other. Or is tab okay? My guitar teacher only teaches me tab, but I haven't asked to learn real music, either. I can read music, I used to play clarinet, but I've never learned much of it for guitar. When I told my grandma this, she kind of made a strange face :/ Knowing only tab isn't that bad, is it? Does it even matter?
And I'm hoping this belongs here? XD
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:49 pm
Tab is easier to learn from, but using tab and staff together is what I do. I usually use my little knowledge about real music and apply it to tab, so I can understand what I'm doing. Learning staff music has been the most beneficial thing I've ever done as far as playing guitar goes.
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:10 am
Well tabs are only useful if you've heard the song methinks because you can't learn the rhythm of the song from the tabs alone while with staff notation, you can. However, tabs show you the techniques that are used, which I find to be more useful than staff (for guitar) because you can just find the song and listen to it, although in theory, this is a strong flaw because learning the song relies on other things used in conjunction with it.
I guess staff is useful if you want to transfer a song on guitar to another instrument, and is definately worth learning if you're gonna go into that sort of stuff.
Also, I guess learning staff and applying it to the guitar helps you differentiate between notes on the fretboard and helps you to play by ear for that reason.
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:22 pm
Tabs are good if you hear the song and, not only learn the riff, but also put the tempo together as you listen to, and learn, the song. It's much easier to learn tablature, as well, making it much easier to learn the song itself, but much more difficult to learn the tempo(Unless you listen to the song enough to know the tempo right off the back, then you're perfectly fine. That's what I do)
Staff is great if you know how to read it. I for one can barely read it. I can tell you what a C, D, E and F are by looking at it with a moment or two dedicated to staring at it to figure it out, but staff is great if you hear the song once or twice, or have never heard the song at all before. Perhaps you heard part of the song that you like? It's good because the tempo is given to you along with the notes, making it great for learning the song without having to listen to the song itself like you would for tabliture. But the drawback is, of course, having to learn to read the music...
Of course both have their drawbacks and both have already been mentioned: Tablature doesn't given you the tempos and speeds while Staff requires you to read the music. Also, Staff won't tell you what octave to play in, meaning that if you're supposed to play a 'C' note on the 'A' string, you could be end up hitting it on the wrong octave: Using the 3rd fret instead of the 15th the song requires. Then you'll end up having to re-fret the whole song in accordance to proper octave usage, etc. Which in itself isn't a big deal, but very inconveniant...
That's just my take on it. Both have their advantages and drawbacks, and of course the Staff compensates for the octave flaw by having extra lines go all the way up to the roof, which becomes ridiculous after going up two or three octaves. Obviously, I for one would prefer the tablature. If you use tablature, what I like to do(And actually read in a magazine interviewing Herman Li, which is where I got the idea to start doing this) is use the tablature to a song and throw in something a little extra; improvising my own things into the already-existing song. Because Herman Li was right: Anybody can read and play music, but if you want to truly improve and make your own thing then you've gotta' throw in as much stuff as you can. If you want to learn the song itself then go for it, but doing that for too long won't do you much good.
I'm going way off topic at this point, but learn your scales and such and learn 'perfect pitch' and you won't even need to use either tabs or staff music to learn the songs. Scales are the best things you can learn, as far as I'm concerned, but that's probably not much coming from someone who hasn't played in 3 months(bootcamp ._.; Go Navy) and only knows a few scales himself. But once I started learning those scales, making up my own things and improvising became so much easier it was ridiculous, haha....
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:50 pm
Tabs are for noobs! If you really wanna be a musician you have to learn how to read staff... you just need to practice reading notes and it will be as easy as reading tabs smile
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:29 pm
Tab is okay, I guess but if you want the more formal approach the other one's kinda needed.
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:19 pm
both are great . Just learn them both .
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 6:57 pm
i say tabs because they are more widespread
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 6:58 pm
Chromatic-Death Tabs are for noobs! If you really wanna be a musician you have to learn how to read staff... you just need to practice reading notes and it will be as easy as reading tabs smile you can't find free notation for alot of stuff
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:42 pm
i think the staff is too hard for me.
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:47 pm
Personally, I think staff is better. I've gotten used to it, and it definitely helps if you don't know the rhythm of the song.
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:48 pm
MAKQ both are great . Just learn them both .
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:00 pm
Staff is more useful if you've never heard the song before. Remember; standard musical notation was invented in a time when there was no way to record music, so you had to know everything about the song including intonation and tempo. However, tabs work perfectly fine in this modern era when we can just play along with the music and figure it out.
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:23 am
They both work alright. But it's best when you use them together. Staff helps with Tempo and Tab helps with which strings to hit. I use them both and I've learned and written songs that way.
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:05 am
I myself have been playing for about four years now... I'm self taught, and... I never took the time to learn staff notation. Most of everything I play I either learned by ear, by using tabs, or a combination of the two. I even record the stuff I make in tab form. The only problem with the stuff I make is that when I try to read it, it takes me a second to completely recall the rythym of it. It's definetely not a bad thing to know one or the other, but I'd say that knowing both would be a real help.
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