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I'm tring to make an new argument in countering the biological dependence argument and I wanted to see if this made sense before I get blasted in the debates.
Many pro-choicers make the argument that since the child is biologically dependent on the mother she has every right to an abortion, similar to the fact that if someone needs blood or an organ transplant they cannot take yours without permission and to them child has never had permission. They argue it is not killing just simply removing the biological dependence. The one fact they left out is by having sex they put the child in the position where they needed the mothers body. Yes if somone needs your blood/organs to survive you have every right to refuse but if you were the person that put them in the situation that they needed the them by reckless actions(such as drunk driving) then yes you would be charged with murder should they die. This would not apply to rape cases as it was not the womans fault she was impregnated, she was forced and as such she commited no reckless action to put the child in that position. It would not apply to miscarriages either as the mother committed no action to end the child's life, it simply died of natural causes.
So does it make sense?
What flaws are in the argument and if there are any how can I fix/improve them?
Any ideas to add?

Yup people just completely argued around it not even trying to give a good point as to why it didn't work. They just kept screaming my body my choice. When I asked them why they were avoiding my argument they started cursing and screaming, telling me to get out. What suprises me the most is that they don't even try to keep their more violent members in check. When they can't think of a good arguement to come back with they just go back to the my body my choice arguement and start telling you to "STFU" or "get out".

Thank god I'll never have to deal with that.

To some extent, we all do this I suppose. The difference is, and it was more apparent when their guild was viewable by outsiders, when people said something like that, no one calmed them down. There were hate threads devoted to specific people and posts in this guild. Whenever someone used anti-choice in there, people agreed.

In here, we crack down on things like that because it contributes nothing to the debate and only serves to reassure everyone that yes, we do know how to behave like we're eight years old.

knew I liked you.

It's quite easy to get emotionally invested in a debate. That's why we try to keep people calm here. There isn't an idiot in this guild, but if emotion overtakes reason, people can make themselves easy targets.

At least a few people in here have built up a sort of ranting network to get the emotional outbursts out of the system. I can't count how many times I've PMed someone saying, "CAN YOU BELIEVE WHAT THEY SAID???" Okay, the capslock key isn't my friend THAT much, but as the that shows, I do use the shift key sometimes sweatdrop

I'm sorry Andy! I'd forgotten you finally learned how to read! Here, have a cookie.


Kidding, kidding. Definitely kidding.

Seriously though, there aren't idiots there either. I just mean they make themselves look like that by acting like it.