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 Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:14 pm
How can we help this issue stop from spreading? Scene is nice at times, I'm rather scene mostly myself. However, people going around saying they are "loli" when it is mostly non-lolita and even, Heaven please forbid, trashy. Please post your thoughts on this and what we could do to help this fashion stay pure.
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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:41 pm
-C'est la lune qui conduit la danse...-
Keep on doing it right?
That's really all you can do.
-...quand le soleil sera couché dans ton âme froide.-
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:55 am
Whenever we get the chance to, Correct them, Show them books like the gothic and lolita bible, give them the names of a few websites and send them off hoping they become better Lolita 3nodding
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:12 pm
If they've heard of the Fashion then they don't really have an excuse to butcher it. Which means they'll probabaly never care to get it right. let them take on the next passing fad. don't feed the fire.
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:39 pm
Hmm... I almost more so agree to the comment above. However, seeing how whenever we wear lolita we advertise it, and more people are starting to get into it (as well as more websites having mention of it), I'm not sure that can be completely avoided. Yet, it sounds like the best thing to do, and then to correct them only if they go around saying, "I'm lolita!" Or using "kawaii" in about every sentence (which I use fairly often, but still... I know some Japanese, so it is not all dreadful).
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:29 pm
It'd certainly help if you have expamples of these poser/scene lolitas.
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:35 pm
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:56 pm
sickle_bloodless i believe she means This :  &  O__O Please tell me who is responsible for that first one... so I can brutally murder-- um... I mean, so I can give them a good lecture. ^^" The second one I don't know what to say.
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:58 pm
inuzukaluv sickle_bloodless i believe she means This : & O__O Please tell me who is responsible for that first one... so I can brutally murder-- um... I mean, so I can give them a good lecture. ^^" The second one I don't know what to say. Some fashion website... > >:; ugh... http://www.lolitacouture.com/catalog/ It sickens me =__= ;; the second one has gaia images in there photobucket gallery... lol... maybe they joined us?
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:23 pm
Lolita Couture has nothing to do with Japanese Lolita. o_O
Whoever tried to tell you that that is what they market at is smoking something super powerful.
They're using the western, "original" version of the term to refer to making oneself feel younger and sexier when you wear their clothes. The clothing they put out are for clubs; they're not trying to deal with the Japanese lolita fashion, at all. As for the second photo, she's probably emulating Kana or a similar VK aesthetic rather than straight [or even ero] lolita. Not all Japanese street snaps are meant to be lolita.
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 3:54 pm
@spuntino: Looks like Totchi from DeG.
EDIT:
SORRY FOR THE BIG SIZE
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I didn't know the file was that big...
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:46 pm
Hah, it does. So I was right, it is a VK thing and not lolita. ;p
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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 1:55 pm
spuntino Lolita Couture has nothing to do with Japanese Lolita. o_O
Whoever tried to tell you that that is what they market at is smoking something super powerful.
They're using the western, "original" version of the term to refer to making oneself feel younger and sexier when you wear their clothes. The clothing they put out are for clubs; they're not trying to deal with the Japanese lolita fashion, at all. As for the second photo, she's probably emulating Kana or a similar VK aesthetic rather than straight [or even ero] lolita. Not all Japanese street snaps are meant to be lolita.
she never said it did... she was showing examples of fake Lolita fashion.
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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:17 pm
Miko_meido spuntino Lolita Couture has nothing to do with Japanese Lolita. o_O
Whoever tried to tell you that that is what they market at is smoking something super powerful.
They're using the western, "original" version of the term to refer to making oneself feel younger and sexier when you wear their clothes. The clothing they put out are for clubs; they're not trying to deal with the Japanese lolita fashion, at all. As for the second photo, she's probably emulating Kana or a similar VK aesthetic rather than straight [or even ero] lolita. Not all Japanese street snaps are meant to be lolita.
she never said it did... she was showing examples of fake Lolita fashion.
There are other "Lolita" trends than the Japanese one. Such as, you know, the 'fetish' and then there's the "Lolita" trend that appeared in I believe the 80's-90's.
There's nothing "fake" about it. It's a different style.
-...quand le soleil sera couché dans ton âme froide.-
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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:38 pm
Miko_meido spuntino Lolita Couture has nothing to do with Japanese Lolita. o_O
Whoever tried to tell you that that is what they market at is smoking something super powerful.
They're using the western, "original" version of the term to refer to making oneself feel younger and sexier when you wear their clothes. The clothing they put out are for clubs; they're not trying to deal with the Japanese lolita fashion, at all. As for the second photo, she's probably emulating Kana or a similar VK aesthetic rather than straight [or even ero] lolita. Not all Japanese street snaps are meant to be lolita.
she never said it did... she was showing examples of fake Lolita fashion.
There's no reason to post them as examples, since they're not the same as what the original post was commenting on. The original post was about people wearing the Japanese street fashion improperly--neither of those photos relates to the lolita fashion. Lolita Couture is a brand geared towards club-going teens and young women. The second photo is a cosplayer. Neither is an example of "poser" or "scene" lolita at all. At least, not as I interpreted the original post.
From what the originating post said, I rather assumed she meant the sort of "poser" lolita one would see at a convention with cat ears and furry leg warmers, or walking out of Hot Topic in a corset, thigh-highs, miniskirt and warm warmers. Someone who was actually trying to wear the Japanese street fashion and doing it "wrong", rather than someone using the word improperly.
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