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 Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:54 am
I'll start:
Re: The Hilton/Spears/Obama Commercial
The commercial is dumb, its really dumb. Does anyone honestly believe Obama is an uneducated airhead? I am not sure if McCain is aiming at scaring people with threats of miscegenation or not, though given the creepy sound bites from the West Virginia primary, I can see why Mccain might go that way, even though it is as low and sickening as Bush accusing Mccain of having a "black baby" in a previous election. I don't think it's a good idea to turn our elections into a barrel bottom scraping contest, but it is a free country. If folks are dumb enough top fall for scare tactics like this, I'm not sure they don't deserve a Mccain presidency. I keep hoping against hope that they aren't.
It is still the opposite as classy to make fun of the daughter of one's campaign donors in one's ads, though, and its nice to see that the Hiltons have wised up to the quality of candidate they are supporting. (IE : one so power hungry he throws his supporters to the wolves if he thinks it'll score points with racists.) The Paris Hilton response ad is charming, possibly the only thing I've seen her do I approve of.
People have also been pointing to the phallic symbols in the ad. I'm suspecting that this is entirely unintentional, as I'm not convinced that subliminally associating a political opponent with virility (phallic symbols and sexy women) is a good way to undermine his potential as a leader. After all, this is a tactic ad agencies have been using for over a century to sell product. I am wondering if the add won't backfire, by making Barak look more manly to people's hind brains.
Just a thought. I'm pretty skeptical all around.
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:43 am
Please don't take this as a criticism. That's not how it's intended. But the problem I have with this post is the same one I often have when reading your journal: I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't know what commercial you've seen. I haven't seen any adverts with Paris Hilton or Brittany Spears linked to Barack Obama. So I'm a blank slate.
But you say all sorts of provacative things in your post that make me wanna know what the heck is going on ... but you don't give me anything concrete to go on. It's all very vague, with no details. It's written as though you're audience knows exactly what you're referring to. But I don't. Apparently there's some advert, possibly put out by the McCain campaign, likening Obama in some way to Brittany Spears and/or Paris Hilton. There may be phallic symbols in the advert. Or the phallic symbols may be in an advert Paris Hilton herself put out in response to the McCain advert. It's not clear, and having seen neither, I'm lost.
I want to participate in this discussion. I want to know what this dumb advert is about. But if they're airing in my area, I'm not seeing them, and trying to find them on YouTube, with a super-slow dialup connection, is just too much of a bother.
So this is my request. In the future, when you refer to something like this, please give just a brief synopsis of what you're referring to. You don't have to go into great detail, just a quick overview (like I've been trying to do with all my video game chatter in my journals lately). Then pick it apart and lay out what you want to say. I'm sure I'm not the only one who'll appreciate it. Thanks, Nec!
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:18 pm
I think National's mudslinging at Labour and their intentions is getting beyond a joke and is hilariously hypocritical since Bill English was recorded saying he'd formulate a plan to sell off government assets including the national bank.
Also hypocritical last time round where they cast aspersions on the amount that Labour pulled in for the election campaign but they themselves were receiving thousands of dollars from a right wing religious sect.
I'm incredibly sick of the media pandering to the right wing based solely on their owner. Its against all the journalistic principles. Aunty Helen is not the bad one here when National has been shown time and time again to be sneaky, lying bastards. Seriously, the media kept claiming that Labour couldn't keep their election promise of government funded preschool time for young children and then went after Labour and Helen Clark because she kept her promise which used up a small amount of tax money when we're in a record surplus under her leadership.
Oh wait, wrong election.
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:39 am
Actually, I'm happy to hear about your election, Spoot. I have international friends who do interesting rants about their elections.
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:53 am
BatWulf, it was a McCain campaign ad likening Obama to Britney Spears and Paris Hilton because he's a "celebrity." It was chewed over on political news programs and comedy shows like the Daily Show and Colbert Report all last week. As it was making fun of Paris Hilton, Paris did a pretty funny response ad that was also getting media coverage in which she mocked McCain for running an attack ad against her and came off as actually clever. No really.
Spoot, I'd love to hear more about your Elections.
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 5:19 am
Obama is a celebrity? Why? Because he had adverts on TV during an election? Well, I guess that makes about as much sense as anything else I've ever heard from a Republican.
The only campaign advert I've really seen is one from Obama. It starts off with a bit of a McCain advert (which I haven't seen), where Obama is being blamed for high petrol prices. The announcer says in a tsk-tsk voice, "The same old politics," then goes on to clarify Obama's record, without attacking McCain. If not for the "same old politics" part, it wouldn't be even slightly considered a negative advert.
Good to know McCain and the Republicans are sticking to a good, clean campaign and not resorting to negative mudslilnging. [sarcasm_off]
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 5:26 am
Obama's supposedly a celebrity because he drew a huge crowd for his speech in Berlin.
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 5:46 am
Huh. So did JFK, if I remember correctly.
And Ronald "Tear Down This Wall" Reagan, the Republican's most beloved recent President. Sounds like the McCain campaign needs to do a wee bit of research?
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:30 pm
Great, now I actually have to post stuff.
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:18 pm
BatWulf Huh. So did JFK, if I remember correctly. And Ronald "Tear Down This Wall" Reagan, the Republican's most beloved recent President. Sounds like the McCain campaign needs to do a wee bit of research? Ben Stein recently accused Obama of being like Hitler for speaking in Berlin and a number of right wing pundits attacked him as unamerican recently for paraphrasing Ronald Reagan. I don't think people are letting facts get in the way of their attacks.
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Artemesia_of_Persia Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:15 am
Why aren't people in general more upset by John McCain saying he wanted to institute the draft?
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:28 am
NecHocNecIllud Why aren't people in general more upset by John McCain saying he wanted to institute the draft? Because Obama is the anti-christ/a muslim/a terrorist/unpatriotic/un-American/a communist. Et cetera.
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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:03 pm
Why Biden?
Biden's a bit of a gaff machine and is best known for plagiarism amoung people old enough to remember the scandal. I get that he was looking for someone with foreign policy credentials, but it's hard to get excited about a man mostly known for stealing the words of others.
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 4:22 am
The republican VP pick is even more WTF than the democratic choice of Biden. Sure Sarah Palin is female and therefore a blatant play for the rabid Hillary vote, but she's anti-choice and from Alaska, which, while huge is the 47th least populous state. She also lied about her involvement in the "bridge to nowhere" in her acceptance speech. Charming. He might as well have gone ahead and just picked Anne Coulter. The outright attempt to lure Hillary voters this way seems really condescending to me. Do they honestly think just having two x chromosomes makes up for the ultra right wing political views? Do they honestly think democratic women are this stupid?
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:33 am
Gwion Vaughn The republican VP pick is even more WTF than the democratic choice of Biden. Sure Sarah Palin is female and therefore a blatant play for the rabid Hillary vote, but she's anti-choice and from Alaska, which, while huge is the 47th least populous state. She also lied about her involvement in the "bridge to nowhere" in her acceptance speech. Charming. He might as well have gone ahead and just picked Anne Coulter. The outright attempt to lure Hillary voters this way seems really condescending to me. Do they honestly think just having two x chromosomes makes up for the ultra right wing political views? Do they honestly think democratic women are this stupid? She's worse than that. She's anti-choice even in cases of rape/incest/endangerment of the mother, believes creationism should be taught in all schools, believes in abstinence only sex education despite having a pregnant teen daughter who is out of wedlock, believes in drilling for oil in Alaska, believes there is no such thing as mankind caused global warming, is staunchly pro-gun, opposes same sex marriage to the extent of wanting to modify the constitution to ban state health benefits for same sex couples and banning gay marriage, supports Bush's idea on the war on terrorism and Iraq, thinks polar bears have decreased in population because of conservation and wants them removed from the endangered species list, supports aerial wolf hunting and finally supports a completely free market ******** me rigid if you can find a more stupid person to vote for.
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