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 Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:40 pm
OK so I wanted to take the time to talk to you all about alchemy, solely because it seams there's lots of misconceptions and ive been studying it for a while.
Alchemy is one of the first non animistic(everything has a spirit, and that what magic is) studies devoted to advancing the self and basic chemistry. Alchemy may be referred to as the Ars Regia, or Royal Art. There are 3 Basic type of alchemy.
Artisinal Alchemy to achieve external gold, the magic and scientific art of producing gold from lead.
Mystical Alchemy, the study of creating eternal gold, to become a god, or further your understanding of this world magically.
Sexual Alchemy, unfortunately I don't know much except its basically sex magic with Alchemy values.
the truth about alchemy at least in my eyes, is that it IS possible to achieve a physical philosophers stone, but before that can even be considered one must achieve the spiritual stone, god hood more are less.
Since this is a thread about Alchemy I should post the emerald tablet of Hermes...
Utter the Word of Majesty and Terror!
True without lie, and certain without error,
And of the essence of The Truth. I know
The things above are as the things below,
The things below are as the things above,
To wield the One Thing's Thaumaturgy -- Love.
As all from one sprang, by one contemplation,
So all from one were born, by permutation.
Sun sired, Moon bore, this unique Universe;
Air was its chariot, and Earth its nurse.
Here is the root of every talisman
Of the whole world, since the whole world began.
Here is the fount and source of every soul.
Let it be spilt on earth! its strength is whole.
Now gently, subtly, with thine Art conspire
To fine the gross, dividing earth and fire.
Lo! it ascendeth and descendeth, even
And swift, an endless band of earth and heaven;
Thus it receiveth might of duplex Love,
The powers below conjoined with those above,
So shall the glory of the world be thine
And darkness flee before thy SOVRAN shrine.
This is the strong strength of all strength; surpass
The subtle and subdue it; pierce the crass
And salve it; so bring all things to their fated
Perfection: for by this was all created.
O marvel of miracle! O magic mode!
All things adapted to one circling code!
Since three parts of all wisdom I may claim,
Hermes thrice great, and greatest, is my name.
What I have written of the one sole Sun,
His work, is here divined, and dared, and done.
That being said, I have come with the gift of information and PDF files!!!
I would take students if any one is looking, BUT your much better of teaching yourself.
keep in mind this god is very basic, and the links below are to help you if you are interested.
http://satanicsingles.com/library/ALCHEMY - The Black Art.pdf
http://satanicsingles.com/library/Alchemy_TheAncientScience.pdf
http://satanicsingles.com/library/Alchemy Ancient and Modern.pdf
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:40 pm
I've been studying under the Alchemy program offered by Flamel College for over a year now. I have the desire to say some things about what alchemy is.
Alchemy is the spiritual science. It is the wisdom of knowing the Oneness of the Universe and the applications thereof. The Emerald Tablet of Hermes has a formula encoded in it. This would take time for me to elaborate on so I'll perhaps save it for another time.
Everything in alchemical lore, every symbol, every chemical and chemical reaction, has a deeper meaning and points to a deeper Truth. When you possess the Philosopher's Stone the quest for physical gold becomes kind of crass and unnecessary.
Obviously there are a lot of different views on alchemy and a lot of aspects to the art. I would suggest you read works such as The Book of Lambsprinck, as well as Eastern alchemical texts such as those written by the Chinese Daoists.
I'll end by saying that the metals are not the sole focus of alchemy, nor are the literal physical metals really all that important in the performance of the art.
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:34 am
Im just saying that if you reach the eternal gold, you would probably reach be able to have the external, regardless of how pointless it truly is.
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:13 pm
BaNaNa_blend Im just saying that if you reach the eternal gold, you would probably reach be able to have the external, regardless of how pointless it truly is. Of course.
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:54 am
Eh... I'm not sure I'd characterize alchemy as a non-animistic discipline from what I've read of it. Which I'll grant you isn't a thorough appraisal of the discipline, but I really didn't get that impression when I did a primer on the subject. Could either of you clarify this more (ideally with some source I could dig up)?
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:29 pm
Starlock Eh... I'm not sure I'd characterize alchemy as a non-animistic discipline from what I've read of it. Which I'll grant you isn't a thorough appraisal of the discipline, but I really didn't get that impression when I did a primer on the subject. Could either of you clarify this more (ideally with some source I could dig up)? This is kind of complicated. Animism as I understand it is the belief that all phenomena are produced by some spiritual force. Under that definition, alchemy definitely falls under that. One of the primary ideas/beliefs of alchemy is that all things originated from the One Thing. That being God, the Universe, the Source. If that doesn't count as a spiritual force then I don't know what does. There is also a lot of writing on the spirits/souls of the various metals, specifically the seven fundamental metals of alchemy. These are highly symbolic/archetypal and correspond with more widely known archetypes. I can elaborate on them if you'd like. As far as sources, you can look up various Hermetic texts. I would suggest reading different translations of the Emerald Tablet. A couple of more philosophic alchemy texts are Pymander - The One Mind, The Aurora of the Philosophers by Theophratus Bombastus Paracelsus. Also consider the Hieroglyphic Monad by Dr. John Dee. All of these are quite old and it may be hard to find them. My copies were provided in my course work. If you want a really deep treatise on spiritual alchemy then consider looking into the works of St. Germain. It may come off as very new agey at first, but I assure you from what I've read that the works, regardless of where or from whom they originated, are sound in alchemical thought.
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:04 pm
Obscurus Starlock Eh... I'm not sure I'd characterize alchemy as a non-animistic discipline from what I've read of it. Which I'll grant you isn't a thorough appraisal of the discipline, but I really didn't get that impression when I did a primer on the subject. Could either of you clarify this more (ideally with some source I could dig up)? This is kind of complicated. Animism as I understand it is the belief that all phenomena are produced by some spiritual force. Under that definition, alchemy definitely falls under that. One of the primary ideas/beliefs of alchemy is that all things originated from the One Thing. That being God, the Universe, the Source. If that doesn't count as a spiritual force then I don't know what does. There is also a lot of writing on the spirits/souls of the various metals, specifically the seven fundamental metals of alchemy. These are highly symbolic/archetypal and correspond with more widely known archetypes. I can elaborate on them if you'd like. As far as sources, you can look up various Hermetic texts. I would suggest reading different translations of the Emerald Tablet. A couple of more philosophic alchemy texts are Pymander - The One Mind, The Aurora of the Philosophers by Theophratus Bombastus Paracelsus. Also consider the Hieroglyphic Monad by Dr. John Dee. All of these are quite old and it may be hard to find them. My copies were provided in my course work. If you want a really deep treatise on spiritual alchemy then consider looking into the works of St. Germain. It may come off as very new agey at first, but I assure you from what I've read that the works, regardless of where or from whom they originated, are sound in alchemical thought. I always thought it was non animistic because of the scientific meanings and such, but you are right, my bad.
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:02 pm
BaNaNa_blend Obscurus Starlock Eh... I'm not sure I'd characterize alchemy as a non-animistic discipline from what I've read of it. Which I'll grant you isn't a thorough appraisal of the discipline, but I really didn't get that impression when I did a primer on the subject. Could either of you clarify this more (ideally with some source I could dig up)? This is kind of complicated. Animism as I understand it is the belief that all phenomena are produced by some spiritual force. Under that definition, alchemy definitely falls under that. One of the primary ideas/beliefs of alchemy is that all things originated from the One Thing. That being God, the Universe, the Source. If that doesn't count as a spiritual force then I don't know what does. There is also a lot of writing on the spirits/souls of the various metals, specifically the seven fundamental metals of alchemy. These are highly symbolic/archetypal and correspond with more widely known archetypes. I can elaborate on them if you'd like. As far as sources, you can look up various Hermetic texts. I would suggest reading different translations of the Emerald Tablet. A couple of more philosophic alchemy texts are Pymander - The One Mind, The Aurora of the Philosophers by Theophratus Bombastus Paracelsus. Also consider the Hieroglyphic Monad by Dr. John Dee. All of these are quite old and it may be hard to find them. My copies were provided in my course work. If you want a really deep treatise on spiritual alchemy then consider looking into the works of St. Germain. It may come off as very new agey at first, but I assure you from what I've read that the works, regardless of where or from whom they originated, are sound in alchemical thought. I always thought it was non animistic because of the scientific meanings and such, but you are right, my bad. Alchemy is often referred to as the "spiritual science". The various interactions of substances are more than just chemistry. These processes demonstrate universal or divine principles to the alchemist. St. Germain shows the word "alchemy" as "all chemistry" once in one of his works. The central concept of Unity in alchemy is reinforced by the principles demonstrated in alchemical operations, or even chemical reactions. God is seen and experienced in everything.
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:18 pm
I'd like to become a Alchemist actually it better fits me.
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