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slayer215

Desirable Vampire

PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:30 am


I know I sure did....
PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:07 am


Dude, I've read better fanfiction. :/ And I'm only on page 460.
SMeyer, this was an epic fail.


SPOILER MINI RANT OF ANGER:

What the hell, SMeyer? Bella gets knocked up because vampire venom is so super special? Ugh! That's defying the little logic you had!
I wish that her parasite baby killed her, but noooo. Then she becomes a super beautiful vampire. Who doesn't have that much bloodlust! Why is Bella being so exceptional at everything? Dammit, now that she's a vampire, nothing can go wrong~! ::gags:: I wanted her to have some kind of flaw, but no. She's to perfect for flaws.
Jacob's part was pretty baller, until he imprints on Bella's spawn. Worst thing ever. D<


Taru-chan`


Peachin Paris

PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:13 pm


Breaking Dawn was my favourite, actually. I loved how it was in constant motion.
But I have to agree- The book was too perfect. No flaws, no deaths, no nothing. It was one big fantasy. Heck, I'd love to be a part of that fantasy. I felt... Somewhat jelous of Bella being perfect after becoming a vampire. I know, she's a fictional character, but still. Why does everything have to be so perfect for her?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 3:04 pm


Rant of Hellish Rage:

I. Was. Pissed. First of all, S.Meyer starts off with the whole "NUUUU, THEY DON'T HAVE BODY FLUID, JUST VENOM." Okay. How is Bella getting pregnant? I mean, the way Meyer writes it, Edward spitting into Bella's v****a would have done the same thing. There is NO sperm in his p***s. (If you look at it from Meyer's INFALLIBLE SCIENTIFIC PROOF OMGOMGWTFBBQ.)

Second, I was pissed at how STUPID Bella was being. It's killing you. Cut it out and put it in an incubator. Problem solved.

Third. CHARLIE gets to know that SOMETHING IS GOING DOWN? That is TOTALLY against the grain Meyer set in the first three books. I'm shocked that Charlie didn't get killed off for even having the slightest inkling.

(And I was all geared up for a big vampire fight scene. But Meyer stole it from me. And I really wanted someone to die heroically. Like Garrett. I like him. He's all patriotic and hero-ish.)

tastic


LaylasDarkside

PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 6:55 pm


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Breaking Dawn was my favourite, actually. I loved how it was in constant motion.
But I have to agree- The book was too perfect. No flaws, no deaths, no nothing. It was one big fantasy. Heck, I'd love to be a part of that fantasy. I felt... Somewhat jelous of Bella being perfect after becoming a vampire. I know, she's a fictional character, but still. Why does everything have to be so perfect for her?

Well not everything was perfect for her.
When she was pregnant, she was in constant pain, [though I do think she should have taken it out of her], she had to go through the pain of becoming a vampire, and then she had to worry about Alice leaving, and trying to save her daughter and her best friend. I don't think I could have handled anymore than that in the book. A fight scene might have been down though.

[[Please highlight to see my reasoning]]
PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:31 pm


LaylasDarkside
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Breaking Dawn was my favourite, actually. I loved how it was in constant motion.
But I have to agree- The book was too perfect. No flaws, no deaths, no nothing. It was one big fantasy. Heck, I'd love to be a part of that fantasy. I felt... Somewhat jelous of Bella being perfect after becoming a vampire. I know, she's a fictional character, but still. Why does everything have to be so perfect for her?

Well not everything was perfect for her.
When she was pregnant, she was in constant pain, [though I do think she should have taken it out of her], she had to go through the pain of becoming a vampire, and then she had to worry about Alice leaving, and trying to save her daughter and her best friend. I don't think I could have handled anymore than that in the book. A fight scene might have been down though.

[[Please highlight to see my reasoning]]

But pregnancy naturally is painful since you are carrying another life inside you. Now let's add in the fact that Bella's baby was a hybrid of human and vampire. If SMeyer had taken out her pain, she would have created the ultimate Mary Sue. A character how doesn't even feel pain during a woman's most emotionally and physically painful time.
Even though she experienced that vampire pain, when she became one, she was perect! No uncontrollable urges or anything. She had perect control of herself, unlike every other vampire that we, the readers, have seen. The pain itself only lasted three(?) days. After that, cha-ching! Instant mature vampire.

Taru-chan`


iLurk

PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:53 am


    I think about Bella's 'perfection' after she becomes a vampire this way.Bella has always been more mature. She always acts differently than the norm. Renee always told her she was born middle-aged. I didn't find it surprising that when she became a vampire she was 'born' mature again. At least, that's how I view it. But yeah, she's impossibly perfect. But, that's the way all vampires are. >w<highlight please.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:53 am



i got really mad between pages 120 and 300 (or so) but, ok?
i mean, isn't her startling maturity more fun to read then "♫blood, blood, gallons of the stuff, give me all that i can want and it will never be enough♪" ?

katgems

Anxious Phantom


iLurk

PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:56 am


    Exactly! If Bella had the bloodlust then it would control her completely. She wouldn't be able to think clearly for at least a year! Then the book would be either very boring or impossible to be told by Bella. Which is the whole point of Breaking Dawn. For Bella's story to be told and finished by her. That's probaly also why Jacob got his section of the book. Because Bella was in agony and stuck doing nothing inside while she was pregnant.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:37 pm


Taru-chan`
LaylasDarkside
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Breaking Dawn was my favourite, actually. I loved how it was in constant motion.
But I have to agree- The book was too perfect. No flaws, no deaths, no nothing. It was one big fantasy. Heck, I'd love to be a part of that fantasy. I felt... Somewhat jelous of Bella being perfect after becoming a vampire. I know, she's a fictional character, but still. Why does everything have to be so perfect for her?

Well not everything was perfect for her.
When she was pregnant, she was in constant pain, [though I do think she should have taken it out of her], she had to go through the pain of becoming a vampire, and then she had to worry about Alice leaving, and trying to save her daughter and her best friend. I don't think I could have handled anymore than that in the book. A fight scene might have been down though.

[[Please highlight to see my reasoning]]

But pregnancy naturally is painful since you are carrying another life inside you. Now let's add in the fact that Bella's baby was a hybrid of human and vampire. If SMeyer had taken out her pain, she would have created the ultimate Mary Sue. A character how doesn't even feel pain during a woman's most emotionally and physically painful time.
Even though she experienced that vampire pain, when she became one, she was perect! No uncontrollable urges or anything. She had perect control of herself, unlike every other vampire that we, the readers, have seen. The pain itself only lasted three(?) days. After that, cha-ching! Instant mature vampire.

Yes, but it still put here through more pain than any normal pregnancy.
I think that it was a good thing she didn't have all of those urges. It was unexpected. And like someone above said, she was mature in her human life, so it should have been taken to her vampire life. And like she said in the book, it seems like she was made more for being a vampire than being human.

LaylasDarkside


rewind r e w i n d

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:12 am


please write spoilers on your topic cos there are spoilers, even the ones without need for highlighting.
i just about killed myself.
and now i have a rough idea of whether bella will stay mortal or not.

yep.
just about killed myself. (:
s'all right.
i did this with new moon and eclipse too.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:15 pm


Breaking Dawn was a EPIC (epic epic) fail. It seriously felt to me as if a totally different person wrote the book. SM seemed to break every rule the other three novels built up for her vampire world.

Read for Spoilers:

Imprinting is rare... yet 5 out of the 9 werewolves have imprinted?

Newborns are blood thirty... but Bella is a exception. Because she is the main character, and it would be boring if the book was seven years of Bloodbloodblood.

(But you know how you resolve the problem? Have a epiloge that shows years later so we can see how Bella and Edward are doing srsly.)

Don't tell Charlie... but oh, whoops Jake spilled the beans.

(I really was surprised Charlie didn't die. By the way.)

And finally the biggest disappointment of the entire book. Reneesme.

Reneesme should be renamed to FAIL! I mean seriously, Bella getting pregnante is a idea a thirteen year old could come up with. I wasn't expecting it, because it is just such a horrible idea. Vampire's are DEAD, they're organs no longer work. Sperm is NO LONGER ALIVE!!! The END!

But no Reneesme had to be born, and she HAD to be a beautiful (weird) half breed, who EVERYONE LOVES, who ages quickly, and is imprinted on Jacob.

There are just so many things wrong with this picture I don't know where to begin. Half breed? HALF BREED!!! How does THAT work? And what was going threw Bella's (SMeyer's) head with the name Reneesme?

Its so stupid. Its all just so wrong.


I'm done, and that is a MINI rant.

All I can say if that after this and the Host, I'm not buying another Stephenie Meyer book. I'm convinced with this that now she is JUST doing it for the money.

CaraD


Colourblind Crayon

PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:56 am


I am seriously one to agree. I need to rant because, it seems, many in Canada thought it was great. This is what I wrote on the Chapters website (where I bought it from):

It was like breathing toxins.

One of the most anticipated books of the year; the end of a series many enjoyed, even if her writing was always mediocre at best. Be aware of spoilers---

Okay, so, here I am reading the last book of the series, worried about the bittersweet ending of another one of my favourite series'. But I didn't need to worry. For me the series ended at Eclipse.

Breaking Dawn, through its heinous attempts at the "Happily Ever After for Forever" nuclear family scheme, left most readers, I'm sure, staring at a piece of swiss cheese. There was no plot! What's worse is the fact that I knew kids of assorted ages were reading about Bella's sex addiction and Edward's bargain with Jacob to be the father of Bella's babies, in order for her to have an unimaginable abortion and "live".

The worst part is that even though new, would-be-interesting characters are introduced, we hardly even get a glimpse of them. Jacob's imprinting on Bella's daughter, whose name escapes my willing memory, was much too easy for him.

Just when you think there will be dealt-with angst and sacrifice and a lesson in all of this family drama, everything works out "for the better" on a silver platter (covered in my vomit, of course).

Bella's transformation, though fascinating, turned her into someone else. The story became something else entirely as well. And though Meyer does not acknowledge it, Bella gives up her entire personality for a foolish, immature teenager--frozen at 18 forever. [Now I'm not saying pregnancy is awful, just saying that when unexpected it is not right away accepted. It wasn't realistic. Yes, it's fiction, but seriously, at least TRY to be human. I think Bella forgot to take a "human minute".]

I think that for fans like me, the most disappointing part was the hope that this series, though it could never rival Harry Potter at its best, would at least replace its vacant spot in our lives. I think this proves that nothing ever will fill that void.

For a lot of words and pages, Stephenie Meyer really said nothing at all. This was the first God-awful book I've read in awhile.


And though that doesn't exactly sum up exactly how I feel, it's a good glimpse of it. I can't believe I waited in line for 4 hours. FOUR HOURS. WTF.

I think I'm just seething inside because she had the audacity to think something I could've "daydreamed" up in a second is the equivalent to a good ending of a series. Though, I use quotation marks because I would never dream of the sort. Even my daydreams are more creative.

A lot of people are asking, how COULD she have ended it? (more spoilers)


Instead of Jacob imprinting on that stupid child, why not the girl at the park? But instead of imprinting, maybe, just maybe he'd have to deal with his emotions like a regular boy his age--minus the wolfy-ness. What's more is that I THOUGHT that SM was leading up to this...how imprinting isn't the only logical way. I mean wasn't Jacob questioning it slightly too? Why leave it up to fate, right?

Umm, hello? He's undead=sperm not alive. Not to mention, he has TWENTY FIVE chromosome pairs = infertile!!! No it's not God's miracle...it's freaking scary. I honestly thought, even when Nessie was adored by everyone, that she'd turn out to be some scary monster. x'D Like I was anticipating her to have everyone under her illusion or something. But how could you change something like that? I was sorta hoping, as cruel as it is, that she'd die. At least there would be some ounce of sacrifice SOMEwhere in the book.


I'm still hoping this was a joke book.

A lot of people blame the fact that she's Mormon, which I don't entirely agree with, but you know, a lot of her "ideas" came from her beliefs. I wonder if the publishers had anyone read over the manuscript first? Maybe they can't tell a crap book when they read one...or maybe because so many people had already pre-ordered, they really didn't give a s**t.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:26 am


LaylasDarkside
Taru-chan`
LaylasDarkside
x-abstract
Breaking Dawn was my favourite, actually. I loved how it was in constant motion.
But I have to agree- The book was too perfect. No flaws, no deaths, no nothing. It was one big fantasy. Heck, I'd love to be a part of that fantasy. I felt... Somewhat jelous of Bella being perfect after becoming a vampire. I know, she's a fictional character, but still. Why does everything have to be so perfect for her?

Well not everything was perfect for her.
When she was pregnant, she was in constant pain, [though I do think she should have taken it out of her], she had to go through the pain of becoming a vampire, and then she had to worry about Alice leaving, and trying to save her daughter and her best friend. I don't think I could have handled anymore than that in the book. A fight scene might have been down though.

[[Please highlight to see my reasoning]]

But pregnancy naturally is painful since you are carrying another life inside you. Now let's add in the fact that Bella's baby was a hybrid of human and vampire. If SMeyer had taken out her pain, she would have created the ultimate Mary Sue. A character how doesn't even feel pain during a woman's most emotionally and physically painful time.
Even though she experienced that vampire pain, when she became one, she was perect! No uncontrollable urges or anything. She had perect control of herself, unlike every other vampire that we, the readers, have seen. The pain itself only lasted three(?) days. After that, cha-ching! Instant mature vampire.

Yes, but it still put here through more pain than any normal pregnancy.
I think that it was a good thing she didn't have all of those urges. It was unexpected. And like someone above said, she was mature in her human life, so it should have been taken to her vampire life. And like she said in the book, it seems like she was made more for being a vampire than being human.

And I'll just cut in--

Umm, she went from mature to really immature, if you hadn't noticed. She was after sex like a freaking pre-teen boy. And she foolishly protected "the baby" with her life, without a doubt in her mind. She wasn't even human anymore. Even a mature human would falter a little. Trust me, you'd know if you woke up one day and realized (after much testing, of course) 's**t, I'm pregnant'.

Made more for being a vampire? Umm, yeah, kinda like "hey, I'm a human with 23 chromosome pairs ready to be biologically altered to have 25 chromosome pairs with no initial upset to my "mature" system because I was MADE to be a vampire...I'm just not one YET. Even without the biology that SM tried to explain to the readers, it doesn't make sense that she was made more to be a vampire. That's like saying I was made more to be a horse.

And really, it's not the fact that she turned and was already capable of control, it's the fact that she wasn't Bella anymore. Yeah, I didn't really expect her to be clumsy or ridiculously self-conscious and modest or anything, but I also didn't expect her to turn into a Greek goddess either. She wasn't perfect, she had defects, just not the type you'd expect from BELLA.

Colourblind Crayon


XxTwilight - DancerxX

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:32 pm


I am not sure if this is a spoiler.... But Bella just doesn't seem the same. I really didn't like Breaking Dawn. Twilight was the best one. I mean seriously. And no offence to anyone.. I still hate Jacob. Bella should have killed him. I made it white just in case it was a spoiler... mrgreen
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