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I got DRG the other night, and I have been also wanting to get SMN as well! anyways, I was pondering what subs might go well with eachother when I though.. HEY why not have them both together!!! you get a DRAGON AND A CARBUNCLE/summon out at once!! OMG

so, can you have two pets out at once? if so what do you think?? good combo? lol! I think it sounds like my ultimate dream come true!

Unfortunately, you can have only 1 pet as a DRG or a SMN.

Also, if you /SMN, your wyvern won't be able to heal you even it is a defensive type!!

If you're planning to play DRG, I suggest you have /WAR, /THF, /SAM, /WHM and /BLU ready.

I personally use /SAM after lv 70, fast TP charge along with Seigan + Third Eye and the strength boost Hasso. LOL I still love that 1868 damage penta thrust, got it only once though.

Its not possible for a BST to have two pets at once. A BST can't have a jug pet and a charmed pet at the same time. If you try it you'll get told "You already have a pet".



Incorrect - people with /smn can still summon avatars.
SMN is a fairly common mage subjob. Most people with /smn don't bother with summoning avatars because they are capped to half strength (e.g. you're 30whm/15smn. If you call carbuncle he will be lvl15 sad not too useful)
However /smn gives a big mp boost and at lvl50+ gives you auto-refresh. Hence its use as a subjob.

However you are correct in that a /drg is unable to call a wyvern pet making it a very rare subjob choice.

If you are a drg/smn you will only be able to have one pet (either a wyvern or a half-strength avatar) out at a time. Also as smn has no "spells" as such, apart for summoning spells, it doesn't allow you to make full use of your healing-wyvern for soloing. Drg/whm is the common choice for solo.

/smn is needed for whm in HNMs before /sch came in. If it's a normal party, you won't need /smn unless you're planning to use some buff spells to help. (e.g. call garuda out, healing wind, then send her back to get rid of hate)

I was told to go lv /smn too when I freshly join mine back then. Luckily that I lvled it to 50 for CoP missions already.

At least, /sch completely replace /smn in most occasions at my linkshell.

sublimation for 2mp refresh, combined with noble tunic or dalmatica, it's rdm's refresh without having the rdm tossing on. With Mage's Ballad I + II and rdm's refresh, the mp regeneration rate kicks a**.

there's more, like be able to use dispel when use dark arts + addendum: black, etc.

In conclusion, /sch is like /rdm + /blm at the same time though. Except unable to warp like blm...

WHM/BLM and WHM/SMN serve their purposes.

In battles that require long term support, I go out as WHM/SMN. Assaults are a big one that you'll need that.

Noble's + Bahlrahn's + Sanction + /SMN Auto-Fresh = 4 MP/tick.

Now, when I'm up in HNMs, or in situations that I will be sitting down and healing. Yes, I'll stick to /BLM. 1 MP/tick won't make a different compared to MP Conserve.

However, if warp is a bit deal, how hard is it to Tele-Holla, Choco to Selbina, and change to /SMN and warp away?[/derail]

As far as DRGs go, /WHM or even /BLM is nice. /BLM gives ya poison, lowest MP costing spell in the game.

5 MP versus Dia's 7 or Cure's 8.