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AnonymousGuitarist

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:19 am


Well i'm really new been playing for 3 monthes and i'm learning my fifth string. I've learned some chords and stuff. I own a classical guitar (its a piece of s**t), an electric, and am getting a steel string acoustic. On my acoustic my goal is to learn soft melodious music like secondhand serenada, Stone Sour (through the glass), and other soft acoustic stuff. I have my electric guitar for louder more driving music and mostly because i wanna really shred. I am learning from a book called The Guitar Method Book 1 (its staff music learning). I also will try to learn the One X album from Three Days Grace. No on the other hand i need some books that will really teach me shred. I wanna eventaully attempt to be as good as Herman Li (Dragonforce) and Dan Doneagon (Disturbed). Anyone got any ideas for any good shred books?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:35 am


I don't know if there's really any books on shredding, but I know that if you want to be a good shredder, you should get some knowledge on Music Theory. The best shredders (Not Herman Li) like Paul Gilbert and the like, know at least half of everything they're doing when they play it.

Aside from that, speed will come with time, and learning to shred that early isn't really going to benifit you later. It's just my opinion so yeah...

_Twisted Pole_
Crew


AnonymousGuitarist

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:39 am


The Nameless Liberty
I don't know if there's really any books on shredding, but I know that if you want to be a good shredder, you should get some knowledge on Music Theory. The best shredders (Not Herman Li) like Paul Gilbert and the like, know at least half of everything they're doing when they play it.

Aside from that, speed will come with time, and learning to shred that early isn't really going to benifit you later. It's just my opinion so yeah...
Well yea..ok how about some Music Theory books then cause i'm learning that along with staff. I wanna play fast but accurate..right now i suck at alternate picking. I don't wanna do Rnp (reckless notes per second) i wanna actually shred amazingly.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:40 pm


The Nameless Liberty
I don't know if there's really any books on shredding, but I know that if you want to be a good shredder, you should get some knowledge on Music Theory. The best shredders (Not Herman Li) like Paul Gilbert and the like, know at least half of everything they're doing when they play it.

Aside from that, speed will come with time, and learning to shred that early isn't really going to benifit you later. It's just my opinion so yeah...


Yeah. Like what he said.

BTW - Steve Vai was the best shredder

sweet mary jane


IGotTheMusicInMe425

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:34 pm


I don't know if professional lessons are an option for you, but if they are, I would highly recommend them. Books are good and all, and I would advise you to keep using them, but having a good instructor to look up to and emulate can truly do wonders. I'm very fond of my own teacher, and I really can't imagine learning from anyone else.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:49 pm


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This book will teach you most of the basics to shredding.

Discussed:
arrow Alternate Picking
arrow Palm Muting
arrow Two Hand Tapping
arrow Modes
arrow Blues Soloing
arrow And More!

I own it, but by the time I bought it, I already understood most of it.

[Note: The final decision to buy it came from the cover art xd ]

Still, as good as books can be, nothing can take the place of an experienced teacher/mentor.

Zoso1392


sweet mary jane

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:01 pm


Zoso1392
User Image - Blocked by "Display Image" Settings. Click to show.

This book will teach you most of the basics to shredding.

Discussed:
arrow Alternate Picking
arrow Palm Muting
arrow Two Hand Tapping
arrow Modes
arrow Blues Soloing
arrow And More!

I own it, but by the time I bought it, I already understood most of it.

[Note: The final decision to buy it came from the cover art xd ]

Still, as good as books can be, nothing can take the place of an experienced teacher/mentor.



Damn. Lol. that's just cool. lol. Man..............
PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:08 pm


sweet mary jane

Damn. Lol. that's just cool. lol. Man..............

blaugh

Zoso1392


Drumur_Boy

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:06 am


Soulless Perfection
The Nameless Liberty
I don't know if there's really any books on shredding, but I know that if you want to be a good shredder, you should get some knowledge on Music Theory. The best shredders (Not Herman Li) like Paul Gilbert and the like, know at least half of everything they're doing when they play it.

Aside from that, speed will come with time, and learning to shred that early isn't really going to benifit you later. It's just my opinion so yeah...
Well yea..ok how about some Music Theory books then cause i'm learning that along with staff. I wanna play fast but accurate..right now i suck at alternate picking. I don't wanna do Rnp (reckless notes per second) i wanna actually shred amazingly.
Acuracy comes first dude if you really wana shred then every note becomes more important cause they are coming at a much faster pace. Acuracy then speed.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:35 pm


i mean you don't even know notes on all six strings yet, but what helps become the shredder you want, are finger excersizes.

Quack Quack Mutherducker


AnonymousGuitarist

PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:42 pm


IGotTheMusicInMe425
I don't know if professional lessons are an option for you, but if they are, I would highly recommend them. Books are good and all, and I would advise you to keep using them, but having a good instructor to look up to and emulate can truly do wonders. I'm very fond of my own teacher, and I really can't imagine learning from anyone else.
I have a proffessional teacher..his area of music isn't in metal though and he's more traditional. He can help me though but its just he's not in the metal area...he's introduced me to Yngwie Malmsteen and Steve Vai..i like a lot of them out there but i wanna learn some stuff on my own as i continue doing the actually lessons.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:16 am


You got three months under your belt. I'll tell you right now...you will not be shredding anytime soon. And if you think you will then you are setting yourself up for failure which could eventually lead you to quit guitar. Just being realistic about it. What you should be more focused on is your technique and syncing your hands timing. Don't worry about shredding right now. Speed is a by product of familiarity. Speed will come on its own when you've done it enough. Which brings me to another point. With only three months of playing I seriously doubt you've developed any speed in your hands twitch muscles. Gotta start at the bottom like everyone else. Sorry...

For the record tho Micheal Angelo Batios instructional DVD's helped me alot too.

Raider83
Crew


AnonymousGuitarist

PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:19 pm


Raider83
You got three months under your belt. I'll tell you right now...you will not be shredding anytime soon. And if you think you will then you are setting yourself up for failure which could eventually lead you to quit guitar. Just being realistic about it. What you should be more focused on is your technique and syncing your hands timing. Don't worry about shredding right now. Speed is a by product of familiarity. Speed will come on its own when you've done it enough. Which brings me to another point. With only three months of playing I seriously doubt you've developed any speed in your hands twitch muscles. Gotta start at the bottom like everyone else. Sorry...

For the record tho Micheal Angelo Batios instructional DVD's helped me alot too.
Well its really about 4-5 if i'm being specific..i just feel like i only have 3 monthes of real learning considering i'm on my fifth string. Secondly i wanna start shredding and doing techniques as a secondary..as far as dropping guitar i don't know how long i can have fun playing only melodies..i mean playing Old Mcdonald had a farm gets old after doing it 50 times perfectly don't you think. On the other hand playing other things on the side makes it seem not so bad..so doing the other stuff is a positive to me..not a lead to frustration and failure.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:25 pm


Soulless Perfection
Raider83
You got three months under your belt. I'll tell you right now...you will not be shredding anytime soon. And if you think you will then you are setting yourself up for failure which could eventually lead you to quit guitar. Just being realistic about it. What you should be more focused on is your technique and syncing your hands timing. Don't worry about shredding right now. Speed is a by product of familiarity. Speed will come on its own when you've done it enough. Which brings me to another point. With only three months of playing I seriously doubt you've developed any speed in your hands twitch muscles. Gotta start at the bottom like everyone else. Sorry...

For the record tho Micheal Angelo Batios instructional DVD's helped me alot too.
Well its really about 4-5 if i'm being specific..i just feel like i only have 3 monthes of real learning considering i'm on my fifth string. Secondly i wanna start shredding and doing techniques as a secondary..as far as dropping guitar i don't know how long i can have fun playing only melodies..i mean playing Old Mcdonald had a farm gets old after doing it 50 times perfectly don't you think. On the other hand playing other things on the side makes it seem not so bad..so doing the other stuff is a positive to me..not a lead to frustration and failure.

Well, i've been playing for almost a year and a half and I don't know the notes on the strings. I only know for sure the string notes. You shouldn't only practice the stuff that the books/teacher tells you to, you should probably start learning some songs you like that you've got the experience to play. At about 4-5 months you've got enough practice to at least learn a simple song. All I did really was learn songs on my own, and from what peoplee tell me, i'm really good for how long i've been playing.

_Twisted Pole_
Crew


Raider83
Crew

PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 5:26 am


Soulless Perfection
Raider83
You got three months under your belt. I'll tell you right now...you will not be shredding anytime soon. And if you think you will then you are setting yourself up for failure which could eventually lead you to quit guitar. Just being realistic about it. What you should be more focused on is your technique and syncing your hands timing. Don't worry about shredding right now. Speed is a by product of familiarity. Speed will come on its own when you've done it enough. Which brings me to another point. With only three months of playing I seriously doubt you've developed any speed in your hands twitch muscles. Gotta start at the bottom like everyone else. Sorry...

For the record tho Micheal Angelo Batios instructional DVD's helped me alot too.
Well its really about 4-5 if i'm being specific..i just feel like i only have 3 monthes of real learning considering i'm on my fifth string. Secondly i wanna start shredding and doing techniques as a secondary..as far as dropping guitar i don't know how long i can have fun playing only melodies..i mean playing Old Mcdonald had a farm gets old after doing it 50 times perfectly don't you think. On the other hand playing other things on the side makes it seem not so bad..so doing the other stuff is a positive to me..not a lead to frustration and failure.


Right, well what I'm sayin is just because you know old mcdonald doesn't mean you're ready to move on to shredding. Learn one song and then learn another that is in you level of experience. You'll work your way up so don't worry about it. I'm just sayin you're better off having some realistic goals. You can't really expect to accomplish in 4-5 months what has taken others YEARS to do.
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