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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:00 am


so what dose evry one think about off shore drilling
PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:07 am


im personaly agenst it
bush even admits that the drilling is only to help the psyci of the american gas consumers
and mcCane admits that there will still be "4$ gas for four more years" even with drilling
i think its just a scam to make the american people THINK that there doing some thing about the high gas prices

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:27 pm


f_a_i_t_h_l_e_s_s
im personaly agenst it
bush even admits that the drilling is only to help the psyci of the american gas consumers
and mcCane admits that there will still be "4$ gas for four more years" even with drilling
i think its just a scam to make the american people THINK that there doing some thing about the high gas prices
I agree. Off-shore drilling is not the quick-fix they're selling it to be. The best thing to do is to invest in bio-fuels and converting our cars into more efficient vehicles.

I think it's Brazil that has the entire country dependent on bio-fuels, which creates more money for their economy.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:29 am


rockerpixie
f_a_i_t_h_l_e_s_s
im personaly agenst it
bush even admits that the drilling is only to help the psyci of the american gas consumers
and mcCane admits that there will still be "4$ gas for four more years" even with drilling
i think its just a scam to make the american people THINK that there doing some thing about the high gas prices


I agree. Off-shore drilling is not the quick-fix they're selling it to be. The best thing to do is to invest in bio-fuels and converting our cars into more efficient vehicles.

I think it's Brazil that has the entire country dependent on bio-fuels, which creates more money for their economy.


that would be verry good but i think we should shoot for something higher
like solar, wind,and non coal produced electric energy as those would help the enviorment aswell
and then all the cars can just run on electricity
(but that would probably never hapen as the american ego is to big) stare
though im not sure if bio fules give off emitions like gas dose
its certanly less if at all but if there are no emitions at all then that would probably be the way to go as americans seeme to see electric cars as some sort of weekness rolleyes
but i seeme to recall a camershal about a car that runs on water and emits nothing but water vapor that would be a good alternitive to though there probably realy expensive

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:08 pm


f_a_i_t_h_l_e_s_s
rockerpixie
f_a_i_t_h_l_e_s_s
im personaly agenst it
bush even admits that the drilling is only to help the psyci of the american gas consumers
and mcCane admits that there will still be "4$ gas for four more years" even with drilling
i think its just a scam to make the american people THINK that there doing some thing about the high gas prices


I agree. Off-shore drilling is not the quick-fix they're selling it to be. The best thing to do is to invest in bio-fuels and converting our cars into more efficient vehicles.

I think it's Brazil that has the entire country dependent on bio-fuels, which creates more money for their economy.


that would be verry good but i think we should shoot for something higher
like solar, wind,and non coal produced electric energy as those would help the enviorment aswell
and then all the cars can just run on electricity
(but that would probably never hapen as the american ego is to big) stare
though im not sure if bio fules give off emitions like gas dose
its certanly less if at all but if there are no emitions at all then that would probably be the way to go as americans seeme to see electric cars as some sort of weekness rolleyes
but i seeme to recall a camershal about a car that runs on water and emits nothing but water vapor that would be a good alternitive to though there probably realy expensive


2 things

1. Honda is coming out with a fuel cell car.

2. Fix your spelling it is horrendous and there is even a freaking spell check function! Sorry but misuse of the English language from people who speak it as their native language REALLY pisses me off.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:35 pm


Well, I have to say, it'll do us more harm than it will good. The American people will, temporarily, feel relieved. But after realizing that the price won't go down, many of them will just be worse off than before.

It's not so much a "scam" as it is an attempt to calm us down. The people who suggested this aren't trying to fool us, just make us feel a little better. Of course, it will only work in the short term. The best we can do, as some of you have already mentioned, is invest more money in research for alternative fuels. Luckily, that's what we're moving toward.

Song: Your English isn't perfect either... You have a run-on sentence right there. I wouldn't have brought it up, except you kind of got on Faith's case about it. (Mine isn't perfect either, I know. ;P)

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:42 pm


Pick_A_Song


1. Honda is coming out with a fuel cell car.

2. Fix your spelling it is horrendous and there is even a freaking spell check function! Sorry but misuse of the English language from people who speak it as their native language REALLY pisses me off.


1. Yes I think that’s the one

2.I’m not saying this to be defensive or pissy but just so you know, I’m not just slaughtering the English language for my pleasure. The reason my spelling is horrendous is because I have a short term deficit disorder which affects my ability to remember the spelling of words as well as number combinations and any thing else that is based on pure memorization. So I have to sound it out the best I can. As for the spell check option, I can’t see it on here.
If there were one that I knew of I would use it. I’m not that lazy.
Some times I will copy what I’ve written on to a "word" document and use the spell-check on there but that can be a hassle. (and I AM that lazy.)
And as for English being my native language I’m not sure how you can know that. I could be a Chinese immigrant for all you know.
And my spelling can’t be THAT horrendous as you are the only person that has ever commented about it on Gaia.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:23 pm


Pick_A_Song
f_a_i_t_h_l_e_s_s
rockerpixie
f_a_i_t_h_l_e_s_s
im personaly agenst it
bush even admits that the drilling is only to help the psyci of the american gas consumers
and mcCane admits that there will still be "4$ gas for four more years" even with drilling
i think its just a scam to make the american people THINK that there doing some thing about the high gas prices


I agree. Off-shore drilling is not the quick-fix they're selling it to be. The best thing to do is to invest in bio-fuels and converting our cars into more efficient vehicles.

I think it's Brazil that has the entire country dependent on bio-fuels, which creates more money for their economy.


that would be verry good but i think we should shoot for something higher
like solar, wind,and non coal produced electric energy as those would help the enviorment aswell
and then all the cars can just run on electricity
(but that would probably never hapen as the american ego is to big) stare
though im not sure if bio fules give off emitions like gas dose
its certanly less if at all but if there are no emitions at all then that would probably be the way to go as americans seeme to see electric cars as some sort of weekness rolleyes
but i seeme to recall a camershal about a car that runs on water and emits nothing but water vapor that would be a good alternitive to though there probably realy expensive


2 things

1. Honda is coming out with a fuel cell car.

2. Fix your spelling it is horrendous and there is even a freaking spell check function! Sorry but misuse of the English language from people who speak it as their native language REALLY pisses me off.
Don't be a jerk.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:28 pm


rockerpixie
Pick_A_Song
f_a_i_t_h_l_e_s_s
rockerpixie
f_a_i_t_h_l_e_s_s
im personaly agenst it
bush even admits that the drilling is only to help the psyci of the american gas consumers
and mcCane admits that there will still be "4$ gas for four more years" even with drilling
i think its just a scam to make the american people THINK that there doing some thing about the high gas prices


I agree. Off-shore drilling is not the quick-fix they're selling it to be. The best thing to do is to invest in bio-fuels and converting our cars into more efficient vehicles.

I think it's Brazil that has the entire country dependent on bio-fuels, which creates more money for their economy.


that would be verry good but i think we should shoot for something higher
like solar, wind,and non coal produced electric energy as those would help the enviorment aswell
and then all the cars can just run on electricity
(but that would probably never hapen as the american ego is to big) stare
though im not sure if bio fules give off emitions like gas dose
its certanly less if at all but if there are no emitions at all then that would probably be the way to go as americans seeme to see electric cars as some sort of weekness rolleyes
but i seeme to recall a camershal about a car that runs on water and emits nothing but water vapor that would be a good alternitive to though there probably realy expensive


2 things

1. Honda is coming out with a fuel cell car.

2. Fix your spelling it is horrendous and there is even a freaking spell check function! Sorry but misuse of the English language from people who speak it as their native language REALLY pisses me off.
Don't be a jerk.


Um…
I really do appreciate the backup, but this thread is about gas prices not my bad spelling. sweatdrop
Although I agree he should have addressed my spelling errors with a little more tact we shouldn’t let it get in the way of the conversation. Lets pleas get back on topic.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:50 pm


Here are some links about off shore drilling.
Some are supportive of off shore drilling and some are not.
I tried to be unbiased in searching but I am agents it so my choices may be slightly liberal leaning. (not to mention it was nearly impossible to find any supporting videos.) if you find any more pleas feel free to post them as well and feel free to comment on any videos posted in this thread.


suporting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6keztyQ6B4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtrrXZ8Aon0

not suporting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8fkbEuCQss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do_BxqnVbkA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNpnNRQtMQU

in between
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-OL7TsS9P4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CFKdOFN3Vo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30279N1Ejr8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbZdVBmE5pQ

i will add more later

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:24 am


Augh, I wish I could watch them. DX

(See, my computer died of a heart attack, which really means electrical problems, and now I'm using my Mammaw's computer, which is slow and the sound doesn't work...)

But thank you for posting them, Faith. <3
I'll watch them as soon as my compy's fixed. 3nodding
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:10 pm


BeXlieXve
Augh, I wish I could watch them. DX

(See, my computer died of a heart attack, which really means electrical problems, and now I'm using my Mammaw's computer, which is slow and the sound doesn't work...)

But thank you for posting them, Faith. <3
I'll watch them as soon as my compy's fixed. 3nodding


No problem
And I feel your pain
My comp has been known to do such things as well sweatdrop

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:25 pm


f_a_i_t_h_l_e_s_s
Here are some links about off shore drilling.
Some are supportive of off shore drilling and some are not.
I tried to be unbiased in searching but I am agents it so my choices may be slightly liberal leaning. (not to mention it was nearly impossible to find any supporting videos.) if you find any more pleas feel free to post them as well and feel free to comment on any videos posted in this thread.


suporting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6keztyQ6B4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtrrXZ8Aon0

not suporting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8fkbEuCQss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do_BxqnVbkA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNpnNRQtMQU

in between
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-OL7TsS9P4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CFKdOFN3Vo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30279N1Ejr8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbZdVBmE5pQ

i will add more later

WOW, these are great. 3nodding

Very awesome... Kudos. 4laugh
PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:50 am


rockerpixie
f_a_i_t_h_l_e_s_s
Here are some links about off shore drilling.
Some are supportive of off shore drilling and some are not.
I tried to be unbiased in searching but I am agents it so my choices may be slightly liberal leaning. (not to mention it was nearly impossible to find any supporting videos.) if you find any more pleas feel free to post them as well and feel free to comment on any videos posted in this thread.


suporting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6keztyQ6B4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtrrXZ8Aon0

not suporting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8fkbEuCQss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do_BxqnVbkA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNpnNRQtMQU

in between
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-OL7TsS9P4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CFKdOFN3Vo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30279N1Ejr8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbZdVBmE5pQ

i will add more later

WOW, these are great. 3nodding

Very awesome... Kudos. 4laugh


thanks xd

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:01 am


here is some more info.



"""WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush on Monday lifted a White House ban on offshore drilling to try to drive down soaring energy prices, a largely symbolic bid unlikely to have any short-term impact on high gasoline costs.

With prices at the pump over $4 a gallon, Bush pushed the Democratic-controlled Congress to expand offshore oil and natural gas drilling in the Outer Continental Shelf and give oil companies access to the Arctic Wildlife National Refuge.

High gasoline prices and soaring food prices have irked American consumers in a presidential election year, when Bush's Republicans are trying to keep the White House and wrest control of Congress back from Democrats.

"Today, I've taken every step within my power to allow offshore exploration," Bush told reporters. "This means the only thing standing between the American people and these vast oil resources is action from the U.S. Congress."

Congress too has a ban on offshore drilling and while it expires on September 30, it could be renewed. Plus, federal officials say it would take years for any oil to be produced in those areas, together making Bush's move largely symbolic.

"Now the ball is squarely in Congress' court," Bush said after signing a memorandum reversing a presidential ban that was instituted by his father, then-President George Bush, almost two decades ago. "The time for action is now."

With an eye to the November election, Bush accused Democrats of having "done nothing" as gas prices have gone up and urged them to pass a law for "responsible offshore exploration" and to give states a say in the decisions.

House Democratic Speaker Nancy Pelosi called Bush's plan a "hoax," joining a chorus of condemnations from environmental groups. The business-friendly U.S. Chamber of Commerce hailed the move as a step toward alleviating high gasoline prices.

Democratic White House hopeful Sen. Barack Obama's campaign also criticized Bush's move. "It would merely prolong the failed energy policies we have seen from Washington for 30 years," spokesman Bill Burton said.

Even if more Democrats in Congress backed lifting the legislative ban, it would be unlikely that they would buck their presidential candidate ahead of the November election.

Republican White House contender Sen. John McCain, who reversed his previous opposition to offshore drilling, told reporters that he thought the decision was a "very important signal" and that "states should continue to decide."

NO SHORT-TERM RELIEF IN SIGHT

Despite the hurdles, stocks of offshore drilling companies rose, including Noble Corp. up 1.8 percent and Hercules Offshore Inc. up more than 4 percent. August light crude oil was up slightly to $145.20 a barrel in afternoon trading on the New York Mercantile Exchange.

"Sooner or later, the American public will get so tired of high prices, that they will put pressure on politicians to make changes," Larry Nichols, chief executive officer of Devon Energy Corp, an independent producer, told Reuters.

The Energy Department's forecasting arm has said opening the Pacific, Atlantic and eastern Gulf of Mexico regions to drilling "would not have a significant impact on domestic crude oil and natural gas production or prices before 2030."

Based on data more than 25 years old, the department estimates that drilling on closed federal tracts off the U.S. coasts could produce 18 billion barrels of oil and 76 trillion cubic feet of natural gas.

Congress has blocked many attempts to allow updated surveys on the amount of oil and gas reserves in the banned areas.

If both the presidential and congressional bans were lifted, it would then be up to individual states to permit drilling off their shores, White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said. Florida's Gov. Charlie Crist has expressed support for drilling while California's Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger reiterated his opposition.

Perino said the president initially wanted to move in concert with Congress but decided to go ahead alone after being rebuffed by Democratic leaders and because of a relentless upward rise in energy prices.

"There's a lot of things that would need to be worked out," she said. "And both the legislative ban and congressional ban need to be lifted in order for us to move forward to try to develop more sources here in our own country."

Environmentalists said more drilling would not end dependence on oil or cut gasoline prices.

"Calls for more drilling will only increase the already record profits of big oil and will do little to reduce the costs of gas at the pump," said Larry Schweiger president and chief executive officer of the National Wildlife Federation.

The presidential offshore drilling ban was instituted in 1990, was later extended by President Bill Clinton and was set to expire in June 2012. Most offshore drilling is allowed in the Gulf of Mexico, off the coasts of Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama, but not Florida.

"The president cruelly is misleading Americans for attempted political gain," said Sen. Bill Nelson, a Florida Democrat. "He knows ruining our coastlines won't bring down gasoline prices nor solve our energy challenges."

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here is the link to the sight i got the info from
http://www.1190kex.com/pages/newsnational.html?feed=104668&article=3950730
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